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Hi Stefan,

Your suggestion is interesting, but I'm quite sure that it's much
easier and more reliable to get the human sender to insert a simple
phrase in the "Subject" field of the email, rather than develop
intelligent software that could understand, from the content of the
message, that this was a job offer.

May I suggest that we try using the phrase "Position available"
(without the quotes) as the first two words in the Subject field (no
other constraints -- any words may follow), and see how it works out?
Some people may choose to filter out these messages; others, like
myself, may choose to group them, then read them.  I'll set up a
filter on my email (which ends up in Gmail) that will attach the label
JOB-OFFER to any such message coming from AUDITORY and see if I manage
to pick up all the job announcements.  [To people unfamiliar with
Gmail: A label in Gmail works like a folder in Outlook, except that a
message can effectively be in two or more "folders" at the same time.
Instead of looking in a specific folder, one searches one's messages
by using a Boolean function of the labels (I'm not trying to sell
Gmail, but I find it convenient,].

If people decide, after a while, that this constraint on the first two
words in the Subject field of job announcements is too onerous, we can
drop the idea.

Best to all,
Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor
Psychology Department, McGill University
1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue
Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1.
Office:Â Phone: (514) three-nine-eight-6103,
              Fax: (514) three-nine-eight-4896

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:19 AM, Stefan Muenkner
<stefan.muenkner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> perhaps there is sort of a compromise here: If the listserv software could
> be persuaded to accept mails at auditory-joboffers@.... and forward/send
> that to the auditory list with an additional/changed label (like
> generate any more list maintenance work, and it would supply a reliable
> label that could be sorted easily by message filters
> I am not certain whether that's possible with the listserv software though .
> Cheers,
> ÂStefan
> On 26.03.2012 05:19, Al Bregman wrote:
>> Hi Camille,
>> I have two thoughts about your proposal of a separate list for job
>> position notices:
>> 1. ÂIt would require someone to set up and maintain such a list. ÂAre
>> you volunteering?
>> 2. ÂJob seekers would have to know that the list existed. ÂRight now,
>> the AUDITORY list is fairly well known. ÂAlso those of us who
>> regularly read it will often re-direct the job notices to students and
>> others who are not list members, and suggest that they join the list
>> to receive future notices. ÂThis is one way that new people hear about
>> the list.
>> Cheers,
>> Al
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Peres, S. Camille <PeresSC@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Another thought is to have a separate list serve for auditory related job postings. I know of at least two other organizations that do this.
>>> Cheers, Camille
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:53 PM, "Al Bregman" <al.bregman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>> May I make the following suggestion to deal with the objection of some
>>>> list members to receiving job notices? ÂPeople who were posting a job
>>>> or position opening could start the Subject line of their posting with
>>>> the phrase "Position available". ÂThose who didn't want to look at
>>>> such postings could just set up a filter in their email programs to
>>>> delete messages whose subject line contained this phrase or direct
>>>> such messages to a separate folder.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Al
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor
>>>> Psychology Department, McGill University
>>>> 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue
>>>> Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1.
>>>> Office: ÂPhone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896
>>>> http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Bruno L. Giordano
>>>> <bruno.giordano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Some numbers are never a bad idea.
>>>>> Barry is right in observing an accelerating job-posting trend (see figure;
>>>>> 2012 is rough expected number of messages with either job or position or
>>>>> professor in subject). I was expecting a valley of death around 2008, but I
>>>>> see only a tiny meaningless dip.
>>>>> This trend is comforting to myself and to many individuals: I do hope it
>>>>> keeps up, at least until I find my dream job ;-)
>>>>> Â Â Â ÂBruno
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> Bruno L. Giordano, PhD
>>>>> Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (CCNi, Glasgow Univ) &
>>>>> Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill Univ, MontrÃal)
>>>>> URL: http://www.brunolgiordano.net
>>>>> On 24/03/2012 10:42 PM, Marcelo Caetano wrote:
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> I don`t want to be rude or create any problems, but I happen to think
>>>>>> that if someone just wants to leave the list, all the person needs to do
>>>>>> is follow the instructions onhttp://www.auditory.org/ (copied below for
>>>>>> reference). I had the impression that Barry also wanted us to know the
>>>>>> reason he chose to leave. Even though I don`t think this alone is a
>>>>>> reason for remarks, I do believe it to be a good topic for discussion.
>>>>>> Marcelo
>>>>>> PS. In time, I found my current postdoc position here
>>>>>> Â ÂJoining and leaving the AUDITORY list
>>>>>> By joining the AUDITORY email list, you will receive all the postings
>>>>>> via email, and you will be able to contribute to the discussions. You
>>>>>> can join the list by filling in the form on the AUDITORY membership
>>>>>> questionnaire <http://www.auditory.org/dpwe-bin/audform>.
>>>>>> Subscribed members can leave the AUDITORY list, or modify their current
>>>>>> details (including email address) by visiting their private AUDITORY
>>>>>> information edit page, and selecting the "no messages" option at the
>>>>>> bottom of that page. Please refer to the message you received when
>>>>>> joining the list for the URL of the edit page, or you can contact me to
>>>>>> retrieve it for you
>>>>>> Â------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Â Â*De:* Al Bregman <al.bregman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Â Â*Para:* AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Â Â*Enviadas:* Sexta-feira, 23 de MarÃo de 2012 9:41
>>>>>> Â Â*Assunto:* Re: [AUDITORY] UNSUBSCRIBE
>>>>>> Â ÂDear Tony,
>>>>>> Â ÂI think that all Barry requested was to be removed from the list, not
>>>>>> Â Âthat we discontinue the notices of available positions. I think we
>>>>>> Â Âcan honor his request without eliminating the job notices, which I
>>>>>> Â Âagree are very useful.
>>>>>> Â ÂAl
>>>>>> Â-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Â ÂAlbert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor
>>>>>> Â ÂPsychology Department, McGill University
>>>>>> Â Â1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue
>>>>>> Â ÂMontreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1.
>>>>>> Â ÂOffice: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896
>>>>>> Â Âhttp://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/
>>>>>> Â-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Â ÂOn Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tony Miller
>>>>>> Â Â<antonio.miller@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:antonio.miller@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>> Â Â > Easy to say for someone who hasn't had to look for a position since
>>>>>> Â Â > 1971. I say keep the job postings. There is nothing frivolous about
>>>>>> Â Â > getting students into academic or industrial positions.
>>>>>> Â Â >
>>>>>> Â Â > -Tony
>>>>>> Â Â >
>>>>>> Â Â > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Barry Vercoe <bv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Â Â<mailto:bv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>> Â Â >> Please remove me from ALL Auditory mailing lists. It has become
>>>>>> Â Âa jobs
>>>>>> Â Â >> advertising list and is jamming up my mail box. This is too bad.
>>>>>> Â Â >> -- barry vercoe, MIT
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