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Re: Why not the list?

On 26/03/2012 6:52 AM, Brian Gygi wrote:

After all, if we don't work
we don't eat and if we don't eat we can't do research.
Well put Brian! Setting a mail filter that moves to a separate folder auditory messages with job or position or professor in the subject is easy. BTW, we received an average of 0.4 such messages per day on 2012, which gives an expected an expected total of 148 by the end of the year (without accounting for seasonal variations).
I do not think we need to fragment the list to save subscribers the few mouse clicks that separate them from the ideal clean mailbox of who already has a job (e.g., professorship/lectureship announcements), or does not have students to help with their job search (e.g., postdoc/phd announcements), or is not interested in getting some additional information about which area of auditory research is currently receiving fundings and will be the focus of future research hours (e.g., postdoc/phd). 

After all, auditory is a relatively quiet list.

	Bruno

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Bruno L. Giordano, PhD
Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (CCNi, Glasgow Univ) &
Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill Univ, Montréal)
URL: http://www.brunolgiordano.net


And it is not as

if there is a torrent of job postings every day - at most two or three a
day come through, a number easily deleted even by the most harried
reader (according to Bruno's chart there have been about 150 postings
through the first three months of the year - a mean of 1.6 per day).

So this does not seem to be a problem greatly in need of a solution.
Brian Gygi, Ph.D.
Speech and Hearing Research
Veterans Affairs Northern California Health Care System
150 Muir Road
Martinez, CA 94553
(925) 372-2000 x5653

    -----Original Message-----
    *From:* Kevin Austin [mailto:kevin.austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
    *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:14 PM
    *To:* AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    *Subject:* Re: UNSUBSCRIBE - Why the list

    Psychoacoustics is not my primary field. I find everything on this
    list to be of value. I retain about 400 postings per year. Each
    year, I repost about 40 - 60 postings to the [more general]
    electroacoustic [music] community, passing information and ideas on
    to another up to 750 [or more] people who work in the cognate
    discipline of electroacoustic studies [high art electroacoustics /
    composition included]. Job posting and conference announcements here
    inform large numbers of undergraduates as to the reach of the field
    of sound study. For items which do not have sustained interest, I
    find the DELETE key is quick and reliable. Kevin On 2012, Mar 24, at
    9:39 PM, Al Bregman wrote: > Hi Everybody, > May I make the
    following suggestion to deal with the objection of some > list
    members to receiving job notices? People who were posting a job > or
    position opening could start the Subject line of their posting with
     > the phrase "Position available". Those who didn't want to look at
     > such postings could just set up a filter in their email programs
    to > delete messages whose subject line contained this phrase or
    direct > such messages to a separate folder. > Best, > Al >
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     > Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor > Psychology Department,
    McGill University > 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue > Montreal, QC,
    Canada H3A 1B1. > Office: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896
     > http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/ >
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     > > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Bruno L. Giordano > wrote:
     >> Some numbers are never a bad idea. >> >> Barry is right in
    observing an accelerating job-posting trend (see figure; >> 2012 is
    rough expected number of messages with either job or position or >>
    professor in subject). I was expecting a valley of death around
    2008, but I >> see only a tiny meaningless dip. >> >> This trend is
    comforting to myself and to many individuals: I do hope it >> keeps
    up, at least until I find my dream job ;-) >> >> Bruno >> >>
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Bruno L. Giordano, PhD
     >> Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (CCNi, Glasgow Univ) & >>
    Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill Univ, Montréal) >>
    URL: http://www.brunolgiordano.net >> >> >> On 24/03/2012 10:42 PM,
    Marcelo Caetano wrote: >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> I don`t want to
    be rude or create any problems, but I happen to think >>> that if
    someone just wants to leave the list, all the person needs to do >>>
    is follow the instructions onhttp://www.auditory.org/ (copied below
    for >>> >>> reference). I had the impression that Barry also wanted
    us to know the >>> reason he chose to leave. Even though I don`t
    think this alone is a >>> reason for remarks, I do believe it to be
    a good topic for discussion. >>> Marcelo >>> >>> PS. In time, I
    found my current postdoc position here >>> >>> >>> Joining and
    leaving the AUDITORY list >>> >>> By joining the AUDITORY email
    list, you will receive all the postings >>> via email, and you will
    be able to contribute to the discussions. You >>> can join the list
    by filling in the form on the AUDITORY membership >>> questionnaire
    . >>> >>> Subscribed members can leave the AUDITORY list, or modify
    their current >>> details (including email address) by visiting
    their private AUDITORY >>> information edit page, and selecting the
    "no messages" option at the >>> bottom of that page. Please refer to
    the message you received when >>> joining the list for the URL of
    the edit page, or you can contact me to >>> retrieve it for you >>> >>