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Re: Spreading in bark scale
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- Subject: Re: Spreading in bark scale
- From: "Bernhard U. Seeber" <seeber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:40:44 -0700
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Dear Goran,
Dear list,
the frequency spreading you refer to comes from a simple masking model
published by Maiwald in 1967 and used by Terhardt in his virtual pitch
model in 1979. It is based on the assumption that masking/the excitation
of a tone is to a first approximation of triangular shape if the
frequencies are expressed as critical-band rate in Bark. In this
approximation the lower slope of the masking pattern is relatively
independent of frequency and level with a value of about 27dB/Bark,
whereas the upper slope shows frequency dependence at very low
frequencies as well as the "upward spread of masking" depending on
masker level (main excitation). The formula you have describes the slope
of this upper part of the masking/excitation pattern. Obviously,
modeling complex masking patterns with just two lines can only be a
coarse approximation, but it can cover some of the main effects at the
benefit of being computationally extremely cheap. As far as I can
assume, Maiwald derived this formula with the Bark scale as published in
tabulated form in Zwicker's first book. The arctan-approximation of the
Bark scale was published years later in 1980. However, the error
introduced by using the formula instead of the table is very small and
negligible compared to the coarseness of the masking model and the
variability seen in psychoacoustic masking studies.
I hope that helps you a bit,
Bernhard Seeber
ARTICLE{GW-Mai67,
AUTHOR={ Maiwald, D. },
TITLE={{Ein Funktionsschema des Geh"ors zur Beschreibung der
Erkennbarkeit kleiner Frequenz- und Amplituden"anderungen}},
YEAR={1967},
JOURNAL="Acustica",
VOLUME={18},
NUMBER={},
PAGES={ 81-92.}}
ARTICLE{Ter79,
AUTHOR = {Terhardt, E.},
TITLE = {Calculating virtual pitch},
YEAR = {1979},
JOURNAL = "Hearing Research",
VOLUME = {1},
NUMBER = {2},
PAGES = {155-182}
}
@article{Zwi_Ter80,
AUTHOR = {Zwicker, E. and Terhardt, E.},
TITLE = {Analytical expressions for critical band rate and
critical bandwidth as a function of
frequency},
YEAR = {1980},
JOURNAL = JASA,
VOLUME = {68},
NUMBER = {6},
PAGES = {1523-1525}
}
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 00:14:56 +0200
From: Goran Bozidar Markovic <mr97411@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Spreading in bark scale
Dear list,
I am unable to get books from Zwicker, Terhardt and other relevant books
about psychoacoustics. So I can not check one thing:
Frequency spreading used in ITU-R BS.1387 is based on Terhardt:
24+230/fc+0.2*L db/Bark
Is this spreading based on assumption that exact bark scale is used, or is
it based on assumption that bark scale aproximation by Terhardt is used?
Please help.
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Dr.-Ing. Bernhard U. Seeber
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