Fw: Why the music is music and the noise is noise?

[Peter Lennox <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lennox" <peter@lennox01.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "Tom Brennan" <g_brennantg@TITAN.SFASU.EDU>
Sent: 24 April 2001 21:31
Subject: Re: Why the music is music and the noise is noise?


> I like some Arabic music, quite a lot.
> The point about patterns and chaos is a philosophical one; the term
'chaos'
> seems to imply undifferentiatable or homogenous; if this were the case,
then
> no amount of organisational genius would produce patterns. If, however,
> chaos means 'inhomogenous but hitherto not organised', then any
'structure'
> deemed to reside in that inhomogeneity is either completely coincidental
> (epiphenomenal), or 'intrinsic' to chaos.... so is there causality in
chaos?
>
> So, is "noise" merely 'hitherto unrecognised music', or is music a human
> conceit?
> cheers
> ppl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Brennan" <g_brennantg@TITAN.SFASU.EDU>
> To: "Peter Lennox" <peter@LENNOX01.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
> Cc: <AUDITORY@LISTS.MCGILL.CA>
> Sent: 24 April 2001 01:33
> Subject: Re: Why the music is music and the noise is noise?
>
>
> > Peter, there is a very large cultural aspect to this.  For example,
Arabic
> music
> > with its different tonal scale sounds like noise to westerners just as
our
> > tempered twelve tone scale sounds to them like noise.  I recall graduate
> courses
> > in linguistics where we were told that patern is what you impose on
chaos.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > Tom Brennan, CCC-A/SLP, RHD
> > web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
> > web master http://titan.sfasu.edu/~f_freemanfj/speechscience.html
> > web master http://titan.sfasu.edu/~f_freemanfj/fluency.html
> >
> >
> >
>