Subject: [AUDITORY] Sv: Recommendations for an audio editor? From: Anders Genell <0000042b1b867e53-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 08:06:43 +0000--_000_GV3P280MB0273CF2BEDC18FEEF06FFD9081EBAGV3P280MB0273SWEP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! For pure audio editing, as opposed to full-fledged DAW functionality, I wou= ld recommend Tenacity https://tenacityaudio.org/ It is a fork of the well-known Audacity audio editor, which was initiated d= ue to concerns about data collection after Audacity had been bought by a Ru= ssian company. It does everything asked for in the original post. It can also be extended = by plug-ins. Regards, Anders ________________________________ Fr=E5n: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= A> f=F6r Xander Brewer <afb8252@xxxxxxxx> Skickat: M=E5ndag, 13 oktober 2025 12:19 Till: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> =C4mne: Re: Recommendations for an audio editor? Hi all, Just want to mention Ardour. As a Linux enthusiast I find commercial suppor= t for audio work to be lacking; Ardour has been effectively my go to for ye= ars. Cross-platform (Win, Mac, Linux), nearly all the features of ProTools = (it can even import PT sessions!), all for the low low price of free (as in= beer AND as in speech). It also has an active development community - if you want a feature, you ca= n just add it yourself and make a PR! - Xander Oct 11, 2025 00:08:12 Oberfeld-Twistel, Daniel <oberfeld@xxxxxxxx>: Dear list, we=92ve been using Adobe Audition as an audio editor for decades, but now o= ur IT department is cancelling the campus license due to an (admittedly) hi= gh price tag. So I was wondering if someone can recommend an alternative audio editor. I= =92ve tried Audacity but find it has some limitations. Here=92s what we want to do with the editor / which features are important: * Look at waveform and spectrogram of audio files (also with more than = 2 channels) * Show time axis in units of seconds as well as in units of samples * Convenient zooming (time and amplitude) * Selection of time windows not only with the mouse but also by enterin= g end and start times / samples numerically * Frequency spectrum for the selected time window * Amplitude statistics for the selected time window (at least RMS ampli= tude and peak amplitude) * Convenient way of switching between audio files * Playback of whole sound and of loops * Format conversion (i.e., WAV to FLAC, sample rate conversion) * Less important: Signal processing / sound effects, except for amplitu= de normalization Daniel --------------------------------- Prof. Dr. Daniel Oberfeld-Twistel Johannes Gutenberg - Universitaet Mainz, Experimental Psychology Wallstrasse 3 55122 Mainz Germany http://www.staff.uni-mainz.de/oberfeld/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v= 2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.staff.uni-2Dmainz.de_oberfeld_&d=3DDwQGaQ&c=3DslrrB7= dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=3DYmee6oc4fLxbraODGABabA&m=3DJFZw0IMCOj_t9o2dqVO3vS99m-Y= 3S4KWzSBNfNS8OcLG-enqp_mulPcTQEHf138F&s=3Dm62TqoYwRpITi-dz7jCcDmU7yt5iT9MPc= Tg3D3WH0CQ&e=3D> --_000_GV3P280MB0273CF2BEDC18FEEF06FFD9081EBAGV3P280MB0273SWEP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, = Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" clas= s=3D"elementToProof"> Hi!</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, = Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" clas= s=3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, = Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" clas= s=3D"elementToProof"> For pure audio editing, as opposed to full-fledged DAW functionality, I wou= ld recommend Tenacity <a id=3D"LPlnk748563" href=3D"https://tenacityaudio.org/">https://tenacitya= udio.org/</a></div> <div id=3D"appendonsend"></div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> It is a fork of the well-known Audacity audio editor, which was initiated d= ue to concerns about data collection after Audacity had been bought by a Ru= ssian company.</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> It does everything asked for in the original post. It can also be extended = by plug-ins.</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> Regards,</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> Anders</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <hr style=3D"display: inline-block; width: 98%;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> <b>Fr=E5n:</b> AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY= @xxxxxxxx> f=F6r Xander Brewer <afb8252@xxxxxxxx><br> <b>Skickat:</b> M=E5ndag, 13 oktober 2025 12:19<br> <b>Till:</b> AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx>= <br> <b>=C4mne:</b> Re: Recommendations for an audio editor? </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div>Hi all,<br> <br> Just want to mention Ardour. As a Linux enthusiast I find commercial suppor= t for audio work to be lacking; Ardour has been effectively my go to for ye= ars. Cross-platform (Win, Mac, Linux), nearly all the features of ProTools = (it can even import PT sessions!), all for the low low price of free (as in beer AND as in speech).<br> <br> It also has an active development community - if you want a feature, you ca= n just add it yourself and make a PR!<br> <br> - Xander</div> <p style=3D"direction: ltr; margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">Oct 11, 2= 025 00:08:12 Oberfeld-Twistel, Daniel <oberfeld@xxxxxxxx>:</p> <blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: 3px soli= d rgb(204, 204, 204);"> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Dear lis= t,</span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </= span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">we=92ve = been using Adobe Audition as an audio editor for decades, but now our IT de= partment is cancelling the campus license due to an (admittedly) high price tag.</span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </= span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">So I was= wondering if someone can recommend an alternative audio editor. I=92ve tri= ed Audacity but find it has some limitations.</span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </= span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Here=92s= what we want to do with the editor / which features are important:</span><= /p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </= span></p> <ul style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;"> <li style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0cm= ;">Look at waveform and spectrogram of audio files (also with more than 2 c= hannels)</li><li style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt= ; margin: 0cm;">Show time axis in units of seconds as well as in units of s= amples</li><li style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; = margin: 0cm;">Convenient zooming (time and amplitude)</li><li style=3D"font= -family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0cm;">Selection of t= ime windows not only with the mouse but also by entering end and start time= s / samples numerically</li><li style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; = font-size: 11pt; margin: 0cm;">Frequency spectrum for the selected time win= dow</li><li style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; mar= gin: 0cm;">Amplitude statistics for the selected time window (at least RMS = amplitude and peak amplitude)</li><li style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-s= erif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0cm;">Convenient way of switching between au= dio files</li><li style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11p= t; margin: 0cm;">Playback of whole sound and of loops</li><li style=3D"font= -family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0cm;">Format convers= ion (i.e., WAV to FLAC, sample rate conversion)</li><li style=3D"font-famil= y: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0cm;">Less important: Sign= al processing / sound effects, except for amplitude normalization</li></ul> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </= span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Daniel</= span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </= span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">--------= -------------------------</span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Prof. Dr= . Daniel Oberfeld-Twistel</span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Johannes= Gutenberg - Universitaet Mainz, Experimental Psychology</span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Wallstra= sse 3</span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">55122 Ma= inz</span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Germany<= /span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a style= =3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable" origi= nalsrc=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.staff.u= ni-2Dmainz.de_oberfeld_&d=3DDwQGaQ&c=3DslrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r= =3DYmee6oc4fLxbraODGABabA&m=3DJFZw0IMCOj_t9o2dqVO3vS99m-Y3S4KWzSBNfNS8O= cLG-enqp_mulPcTQEHf138F&s=3Dm62TqoYwRpITi-dz7jCcDmU7yt5iT9MPcTg3D3WH0CQ= &e=3D" class=3D"OWAAutoLink" id=3D"OWA4ba51929-0df7-3a32-1b2a-800bbe10f= ec2" href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.staf= f.uni-2Dmainz.de_oberfeld_&d=3DDwQGaQ&c=3DslrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&am= p;r=3DYmee6oc4fLxbraODGABabA&m=3DJFZw0IMCOj_t9o2dqVO3vS99m-Y3S4KWzSBNfN= S8OcLG-enqp_mulPcTQEHf138F&s=3Dm62TqoYwRpITi-dz7jCcDmU7yt5iT9MPcTg3D3WH= 0CQ&e=3D">http://www.staff.uni-mainz.de/oberfeld/</a></span></p> </blockquote> </body> </html> --_000_GV3P280MB0273CF2BEDC18FEEF06FFD9081EBAGV3P280MB0273SWEP_--