Subject: [AUDITORY] Survey of auditory scientists From: "T. T. Perry" <trevortperry@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 06:38:23 -0700--000000000000e73ebe06335e19bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jeremy, Thanks for sharing this important data with the list. Clearly there's a lot going on right now that concerns auditory scientists and our ability to do science freely. I hope that people read through what early career researchers shared about how they've been affected by the anti-science movement. In particular, PIs should be thinking about how they are going to help early career researchers address these career obstacles which are totally unprecedented. Sincerely, Perry On Mon, Apr 14, 2025, 9:20=E2=80=AFPM Jeremy Paul Donald Marozeau < 000000aae0ca5ce5-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear Friends, > Last week, I launched a survey on how our community is impacted by the > current policy. If you haven't done so yet, you can still answer here. No= ne > of the questions are mandatory, so if you want, you can just add a commen= t. > > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSXmURpN3fV3vQUUYvmTorqgEoJ= FHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/viewform?usp=3Dheader > > I will leave the survey open until the end of this month, but you can see > the temporary results here: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ucoehl-7G0CQAkHjqWSPHMfS4Ay023KC26Ed8= iCahuM/edit?usp=3Dsharing > > It is a Google Doc that allows you to add a comment. So feel free to add > anything, to criticize the method, to reject the paper, or anything that > will make you feel better. > I won't comment on the results here, to respect the wishes of some people > who don't want to read anything unrelated to the non-linearity of the > basilar membrane, but I will just leave you with a quote from one of the > participants: *"I am terrified!"* > Happy Monday everyone. > Bisous, > Jeremy > > PS: Sorry, I needed to resend this message due to some format issue, from > my side. > > ------------------------------ > *De :* Jeremy Paul Donald Marozeau <jemaroz@xxxxxxxx> > *Envoy=C3=A9 :* dimanche, 6 avril 2025 13:18 > *=C3=80 :* AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> > *Objet :* Re: Silence from leaders in auditory science [please let us > move on, hopefully we will] > > Dear Friends and colleagues, > I think it is really important to openly discuss any topics, but it > saddens me to see this discussion moving toward division and confrontatio= n. > It's important to respect each other's opinions and try to understand the= m > better. Personally, I have some strong ones, mostly based on highly biase= d > media that I follow (I get most of my US news from Stephen Colbert and Jo= hn > Stewart. Yes, it is biased, but at least I'm having fun). > Anyway, it's time we act as scientists studying human perception. Based o= n > our biased observations, let's make hypotheses, collect data, and draw > conclusions that may or may not require action. > Based on what I've observed, I've formulated three hypotheses: > > 1. The US government will prevent some of us from studying specific > topics. > 2. Some researchers feel that their career development is impacted by > this policy. > 3. Non-US citizens feel uneasy attending conferences in the US. > > If any of these hypotheses are supported, it places responsibility on > researchers from Non-US countries to: > > - Focus on the research topics our US colleagues cannot study; > - Help out by reaching those in need; > - Host international conferences outside the US. > > To test these hypotheses, I've created a Google form with simple, specifi= c > questions and some open-ended questions for additional thoughts (instead = of > the auditory list). > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSXmURpN3fV3vQUUYvmTorqgEoJ= FHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/viewform?usp=3Dheader > > <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSXmURpN3fV3vQUUYvmTorqgEo= JFHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/viewform?usp=3Dheader> > Auditory Survey > <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSXmURpN3fV3vQUUYvmTorqgEo= JFHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/viewform?usp=3Dheader> > The questionnaire was created to collect data on auditory scientists' > perceptions of how US policy affects their work. To the best of my > knowledge, the data are anonymized. > docs.google.com > > The form does not require any identifiable information. > I will publicly share all collected data openly. Anyone interested is als= o > welcome to become an administrator of the survey to add questions or acce= ss > the data. > > Jeremy > > > --000000000000e73ebe06335e19bc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi Jeremy,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir= =3D"auto">Thanks for sharing this important data with the list. Clearly the= re's a lot going on right now that concerns auditory scientists and our= ability to do science freely. I hope that people read through what early c= areer researchers shared about how they've been affected by the anti-sc= ience movement. In particular, PIs should be thinking about how they are go= ing to help early career researchers address these career obstacles which a= re totally unprecedented.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto= ">Sincerely,=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Perry=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto= "><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir=3D"auto"><di= v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 14, 2025, 9:20=E2=80=AFPM Je= remy Paul Donald Marozeau <<a href=3D"mailto:000000aae0ca5ce5-dmarc-requ= est@xxxxxxxx">000000aae0ca5ce5-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx</a>>= wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px = 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> Dear Friends,</div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> Last week, I launched a survey on how our community is impacted by the curr= ent policy. If you haven't done so yet, you can still answer here. None= of the questions are mandatory, so if you want, you can just add a comment= .</div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> <a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSXmURpN3fV3vQUUYv= mTorqgEoJFHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/viewform?usp=3Dheader" id=3D"m_58760536137993999= 07OWA812cc928-9a59-631f-8e4b-26613bd2e2db" style=3D"margin:0px" target=3D"_= blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSX= mURpN3fV3vQUUYvmTorqgEoJFHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/viewform?usp=3Dheader</a></div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> I will leave the survey open until the end of this month, but you can see t= he temporary results here:</div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> <a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ucoehl-7G0CQAkHjqWSPHMfS4Ay0= 23KC26Ed8iCahuM/edit?usp=3Dsharing" id=3D"m_5876053613799399907OWAfa5c8ba2-= 9136-17f6-d851-28e45f817bb4" style=3D"margin:0px" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"= noreferrer">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ucoehl-7G0CQAkHjqWSPHMfS4Ay= 023KC26Ed8iCahuM/edit?usp=3Dsharing</a></div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-colo= r:rgb(255,255,255);margin:1.25em 0px 10px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedF= ont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:b= lack"> It is a Google Doc that allows you to add a comment. So feel free to add an= ything, to criticize the method, to reject the paper, or anything that will= make you feel better.</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-colo= r:rgb(255,255,255);margin:1.25em 0px 10px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedF= ont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:b= lack"> I won't comment on the results here, to respect the wishes of some peop= le who don't want to read anything unrelated to the non-linearity of th= e basilar membrane, but I will just leave you with a quote from one of the = participants: <i>"I am terrified!"</i></div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-colo= r:rgb(255,255,255);margin:1.25em 0px 10px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedF= ont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:b= lack"> Happy Monday everyone.</div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> Bisous,</div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> Jeremy</div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,= 255);margin:0px;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Ca= libri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:black"> PS: Sorry, I needed to resend this message due to some format issue, from m= y side.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div id=3D"m_5876053613799399907appendonsend"></div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%"> <div id=3D"m_5876053613799399907divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Ca= libri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>De :</b> J= eremy Paul Donald Marozeau <<a href=3D"mailto:jemaroz@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"= _blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jemaroz@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> <b>Envoy=C3=A9 :</b> dimanche, 6 avril 2025 13:18<br> <b>=C3=80 :</b> <a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blan= k" rel=3D"noreferrer">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:AU= DITORY@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= .MCGILL.CA</a>><br> <b>Objet :</b> Re: Silence from leaders in auditory science [please let us = move on, hopefully we will]</font> <div>=C2=A0</div> </div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_Embe= ddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0)"> Dear Friends and colleagues,</div> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_Embe= ddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0)"> I think it is really important to openly discuss any topics, but it saddens= me to see this discussion moving toward division and confrontation.</div> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_Embe= ddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0)"> It's important to respect each other's opinions and try to understa= nd them better. Personally, I have some strong ones, mostly based on highly= biased media that I follow (I get most of my US news from Stephen Colbert = and John Stewart. Yes, it is biased, but at least I'm having fun).</div> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_Embe= ddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0)"> Anyway, it's time we act as scientists studying human perception. Based= on our biased observations, let's make hypotheses, collect data, and d= raw conclusions that may or may not require action.</div> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_Embe= ddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0)"> Based on what I've observed, I've formulated three hypotheses:</div= > <ol start=3D"1"> <li style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calib= ri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">The US government will prev= ent some of us from studying specific topics.</div> </li><li style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,= Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">Some researchers feel that = their career development is impacted by this policy.</div> </li><li style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,= Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">Non-US citizens feel uneasy= attending conferences in the US.</div> </li></ol> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_Embe= ddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0)"> If any of these hypotheses are supported, it places responsibility on resea= rchers from Non-US countries to:</div> <ul> <li style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calib= ri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">Focus on the research topic= s our US colleagues cannot study;</div> </li><li style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,= Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">Help out by reaching those = in need;</div> </li><li style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,= Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">Host international conferen= ces outside the US.</div> </li></ul> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style=3D"font-family:= Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;f= ont-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">To test these hypotheses, I've created = a Google form with simple, specific questions and some open-ended questions for additional thoughts (instead of the audi= tory list).<br> <a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSXmURpN3fV3vQUUYv= mTorqgEoJFHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/viewform?usp=3Dheader" id=3D"m_58760536137993999= 07LPlnk" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://docs.google.com/forms= /d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSXmURpN3fV3vQUUYvmTorqgEoJFHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/viewform?usp= =3Dheader</a></span> <div> <div id=3D"m_5876053613799399907LPBorder_GTaHR0cHM6Ly9kb2NzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v= Zm9ybXMvZC9lLzFGQUlwUUxTZWxjRmpTWG1VUnBOM2ZWM3ZRVVVZdm1Ub3JxZ0VvSkZIZVNfNm8= 2ampXQThqMGR3L3ZpZXdmb3JtP3VzcD1oZWFkZXI." style=3D"width:100%;margin-top:1= 6px;margin-bottom:16px;max-width:800px;min-width:424px"> <table id=3D"m_5876053613799399907LPContainer336329" role=3D"presentation" = style=3D"padding:12px 36px 12px 12px;width:100%;border-width:1px;border-sty= le:solid;border-color:rgb(200,200,200);border-radius:2px"> <tbody> <tr valign=3D"top" style=3D"border-spacing:0px"> <td> <div id=3D"m_5876053613799399907LPImageContainer336329" style=3D"margin-rig= ht:12px;height:126px;overflow:hidden;width:240px"> <a id=3D"m_5876053613799399907LPImageAnchor336329" href=3D"https://docs.goo= gle.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSXmURpN3fV3vQUUYvmTorqgEoJFHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/= viewform?usp=3Dheader" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><img id=3D"m_58= 76053613799399907LPThumbnailImageId336329" alt=3D"" height=3D"126" width=3D= "240" style=3D"display: block;"></a></div> </td> <td style=3D"width:100%"> <div id=3D"m_5876053613799399907LPTitle336329" style=3D"font-size:21px;font= -weight:300;margin-right:8px;font-family:wf_segoe-ui_light,"Segoe UI L= ight","Segoe WP Light","Segoe UI","Segoe WP&q= uot;,Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;margin-bottom:12px"> <a id=3D"m_5876053613799399907LPUrlAnchor336329" href=3D"https://docs.googl= e.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSelcFjSXmURpN3fV3vQUUYvmTorqgEoJFHeS_6o6jjWA8j0dw/vi= ewform?usp=3Dheader" style=3D"text-decoration:none" target=3D"_blank" rel= =3D"noreferrer">Auditory Survey</a></div> <div id=3D"m_5876053613799399907LPDescription336329" style=3D"font-size:14p= x;max-height:100px;color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,&q= uot;Segoe UI","Segoe WP",Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;margin-bott= om:12px;margin-right:8px;overflow:hidden"> The questionnaire was created to collect data on auditory scientists' p= erceptions of how US policy affects their work. To the best of my knowledge= , the data are anonymized.</div> <div id=3D"m_5876053613799399907LPMetadata336329" style=3D"font-size:14px;f= ont-weight:400;color:rgb(166,166,166);font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,"= Segoe UI","Segoe WP",Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif"> <a href=3D"http://docs.google.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">doc= s.google.com</a></div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> </div> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_Embe= ddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0)"> The form does not require any identifiable information.</div> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_Embe= ddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0)"> I will publicly share all collected data openly. Anyone interested is also = welcome to become an administrator of the survey to add questions or access= the data.<br> <br> </div> <div style=3D"margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-family:Aptos,Aptos_Embe= ddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0)"> Jeremy</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div></div></div> --000000000000e73ebe06335e19bc--