Subject: [AUDITORY] better listserv tech From: Samuel Mehr <sam@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 10:27:50 +1200----==_mimepart_67fd8be6eb707_c41fdc89242e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, I was thinking it would be cool if members of the Auditory list had more control over what they see from the list and I wonder if there would be support for moving it from the 'classic' listserv (a physical server, I think, someplace in Montr=C3=A9al) to something more modern with user-level moderation tools. For example, the ability to mute a thread while still seeing other messages to the list would be nice. Awhile back Dan Ellis mentioned to me that some years ago there was discussion of moving to a more modern server but some people didn't like the idea. This may be worth revisiting =E2=80=94 many of us find the Audi= tory list useful for recruiting students, crowdsourcing help for various esoteric questions, hearing about new papers, uniting a rather disparate set of subfields, and so on, but the very outdated tech of the listserv makes it more difficult than necessary to use and participate in. Sam =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94 Samuel Mehr School of Psychology, University of Auckland and Child Study Center, Yale University Be a citizen scientist at themusiclab.org <https://themusiclab.org/>! ----==_mimepart_67fd8be6eb707_c41fdc89242e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta charset=3D"utf-8"> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf= -8" /> <meta name=3D"viewport" id=3D"viewport" content=3D"width=3Ddevice-wid= th,minimum-scale=3D1.0,maximum-scale=3D10.0,initial-scale=3D1.0" /> <style> html { -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -ms-text-size-adjust: 100%; } h1 { font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.2; margin: 0; } ul, ol { margin: 0; padding: 0; } ul li, ol li, li li { margin: 0 0 0 36px; } [dir=3Drtl] li { margin: 0 18px 0 0; } blockquote { border-color: #dfdee1; /* --color--border */ border-style: solid; border-width: 0 0 0 1px; margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 1em; } [dir=3Drtl] blockquote, blockquote[dir=3Drtl] { border-width: 0 1px 0 0; padding: 0 1em 0 0; } pre { font-family: "SFMono-Regular", Consolas, "Liberation Mono", Menlo, Cour= ier, monospace; /* --font-family--mono */ font-size: 0.9em; margin: 0; padding: 1rem; background-color: #f3f1ef; /* --color-bg--surface */ white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word; overflow: visible; } .message-content { font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Aptos, Roboto, "Segoe U= I", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", = "Segoe UI Symbol"; /* --font-family */ line-height: 1.4; } .attachment { display: inline-block; margin: 0; padding: 0; } .attachment__caption { padding: 0; text-align: center; } .attachment__caption a[href] { text-decoration: none; color: #333333; } .attachment--preview { width: 100%; text-align: center; margin: 0.625em 0; } .attachment--preview img { border: 1px solid #dfdee1; /* --color--border */ vertical-align: middle; width: auto; max-width: 100%; max-height: 640px; } .attachment--preview .attachment__caption { color: #716d7b; /* --color-txt--subtle */ font-size: 0.85em; margin-top: 0.625em; } .attachment--file { color: #282138; /* --color-txt */ line-height: 1; margin: 0 2px 2px 0; padding: 0.4em 1em; border: 1px solid #dfdee1; /* --color--border */ border-radius: 5px; } .permalink { color: inherit; } .txt--subtle { color: #716d7b; /* --color-txt--subtle */ } .txt--xx-small { font-size: 14px; } .flush { margin: 0; padding: 0; } .push--bottom { margin-bottom: 8px; } .border--top { border-top: 1px solid #ECE9E6; /* --color-border--solid */ } .btn { padding: 0.2em 0.4em; font-weight: 500; text-decoration: none; border-radius: 3rem; white-space: nowrap; background: #5522FA; /* --color-tertiary */ border-color: #5522FA; color: #ffffff; } .btn--email { display: inline-block; text-align: center; font-weight: 500; font-size: 1em; text-decoration: none; border-radius: 2em; white-space: nowrap; background: #5522FA; /* --color-tertiary */ border-color: #5522FA; color: #ffffff; border-top: 0.3em solid #5522FA; border-left: 1em solid #5522FA; border-bottom: 0.3em solid #5522FA; border-right: 1em solid #5522FA; } .shaded { padding: 1em; border-radius: 4px; background-color: #f6f5f3; /* --color-bg--surface */ border: 1px solid #dfdee1; /* --color--border */ } .shaded--blue { background-color: rgba(80, 162, 255, 0.2); /* --rgb-blue 0.2 */ } .shaded--red { background-color: rgba(255, 120, 120, 0.2); /* --rgb-red 0.2 */ } .strikethrough { text-decoration: line-through; } </style> </head> <body> <div class=3D"message-content"> <div class=3D"trix-content"> <div>Hi folks, I was thinking it would be cool if members of the Audito= ry list had more control over what they see from the list and I wonder if= there would be support for moving it from the 'classic' listserv= (a physical server, I think, someplace in Montr=C3=A9al) to something mo= re modern with user-level moderation tools. For example, the ability to m= ute a thread while still seeing other messages to the list would be nice.= <br><br>Awhile back Dan Ellis mentioned to me that some years ago there w= as discussion of moving to a more modern server but some people didn'= t like the idea. This may be worth revisiting =E2=80=94 many of us find t= he Auditory list useful for recruiting students, crowdsourcing help for v= arious esoteric questions, hearing about new papers, uniting a rather dis= parate set of subfields, and so on, but the very outdated tech of the lis= tserv makes it more difficult than necessary to use and participate in.<b= r><br>Sam<br><br></div><div>=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94<br>Samuel Mehr<br= >School of Psychology, University of Auckland<br>and Child Study Center, = Yale University<br><strong>Be a citizen scientist at </strong><a href=3D"= https://themusiclab.org/"><strong>themusiclab.org</strong></a><strong>!</= strong></div> </div> </div> </body> </html> ----==_mimepart_67fd8be6eb707_c41fdc89242e--