Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Silence from leaders in auditory science From: Frederick Gallun <fgallun@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 10:34:47 -0700--0000000000006815d60630a154be Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Auditory List, I agree that this is a time of uncertainty and trepidation. I don't think there are many meaningful actions we can take beyond reaching out to our colleagues, especially those more junior, and letting them know that we care. At Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU), where I work, over 450 scientists at all levels signed a letter explaining how these cuts will hurt all Oregonians. It was published in the Portland Business Journal on March 4, 2025. The link is here, but it is behind a paywall, so I've copied the text below. https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2025/03/04/ohsu-researchers-nih-w= arnings.html Erick *We are Oregon scientists - NIH cuts will hurt all Oregonians* We are researchers at Oregon Health & Science University, working every day to inspire new treatments by learning how our bodies age, fight infections, and develop cancer, heart disease, neurological conditions or mental health disorders. The facts are clear.=E2=80=AFLeading edge research done here in Oregon save= s lives, and in the process, it grows our economy and creates jobs for Oregonians. But now, recent changes in federal policy are putting biomedical research at dire risk. We love our work because it is fascinating and allows us to help people live longer, healthier lives. We all know someone who fought with diabetes, cancer, heart disease, dementia, or serious childhood infections. We have friends or family with ADHD or anxiety, or who struggle with suicidality. Treatments for these critically ill people were developed at universities like ours and millions of lives have been saved as a result. Most of our research is funded by the National Institutes of Health, a federal agency and largest funder of biomedical research in the world. This commitment =E2=80=94 supported for decades by both Democrats and Republican= s =E2=80=94 is directly responsible for positioning the United States as the premier country for research. In Oregon alone, the NIH provides hundreds of millions of dollars <https://www.unitedformedicalresearch.org/nih-in-your-state/oregon/> each year for research, which directly supports more than 5,000 jobs. Half of OHSU=E2=80=99s research budget, around $300 million per year, comes from th= e NIH. For every $1 the NIH spends, $2.46 of economic activity is created according to a recent study <https://www.unitedformedicalresearch.org/annual-economic-report/>. That means NIH funding in Oregon generates almost $1 billion every year =E2=80= =94 a great return on investment for taxpayers. By law, our findings are openly shared with the public. This ensures that discoveries spread quickly and inspire the development of new treatments in the pharmaceutical industry, and inform public health policy. For example, at OHSU, Gleevec was discovered as a breakthrough drug for certain kinds of leukemia through fundamental NIH-funded research right here in Oregon. Gleevec has saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Many drug treatments are carefully tested at OHSU though NIH-funded clinical trials. In fact, over 100 studies testing new cancer treatments alone are happening right now at OHSU. OHSU is Oregon's largest biomedical research institution and serves the entire state through its research, health care, and teaching missions. This means that, in addition to biomedical discoveries, we are also training the next generation of scientists. The entire U.S. biotechnology industry, a powerhouse much envied by other nations, depends on NIH-funded research and training within universities like ours. This is why we were shocked to learn last month that across-the-board cuts to congressionally approved NIH funding for biomedical research were ordered, and over 1,000 NIH employees were fired. The cuts claimed to stop NIH funds from going to =E2=80=9Cwaste, fraud and abuse.=E2=80=9D <https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/trumps-nih-budget-cuts-threat= en-research-stirring-panic-rcna191744> This is false. The funds are used for paying non-research staff like custodial, maintenance and office employees, and research necessities like laboratory infrastructure and shared equipment =E2=80=94 all of which are essential fo= r our research. Indiscriminately taking funding away for critical research infrastructure is akin to asking a mechanic to fix your car without a shop or any tools = =E2=80=94 plainly impossible. While the courts have intervened to block these cuts for now, there is a risk that the federal government may be turning away from our nation=E2=80=99s longstanding commitment to innovation. In addition, arbitrary and thoughtless roadblocks to grant review and distribution of funds are currently halting all future science funding by the NIH. Make no mistake, this will have devastating consequences: clinical trials will be dropped; years-long research projects will die in their tracks; and the training of a generation of scientists will be severely damaged. Many research laboratories operate on thin margins and depend on the assurance of grant disbursement. If no action is taken now, the losses will be immediate and profound, including inability to sustain jobs for Oregon scientists or their support staffs, or maintain important research infrastructure. These cuts will cripple biomedical research and drug development in the U.S. We should be investing more in science, not less. If you believe in the value of biomedical research, have a family member in need of medical care, or care about the leading role of the U.S. in driving innovation, please contact your elected representatives <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/sm1.multibriefs.com/t/gcH1AAebaBPW-3-6Q= VLEgFKQqHAuaRqYB14faaaaRrBT0MDIhaa?p=3DijrogW*258wsdwq.iZy*amp;Z=3DijrogW*2= 58wsdwq.iZy*amp;h=3D1*amp;t=3D__;fn5-fn4!!Mi0JBg!MI9vQlCgqPXZSQ-MIQpQPgNgAj= IlPIhpHvH8_w3x_mxomwEXNbFiNx5KbHgEFbZ80CGqexaOC9z8WQ$%22%20o%20%22https://u= rldefense.com/v3/__https://sm1.multibriefs.com/t/gcH1AAebaBPW-3-6QVLEgFKQqH= AuaRqYB14faaaaRrBT0MDIhaa?p=3DijrogW*258wsdwq.iZy*amp;Z=3DijrogW*258wsdwq.i= Zy*amp;h=3D1*amp;t=3D__;fn5-fn4!!Mi0JBg!MI9vQlCgqPXZSQ-MIQpQPgNgAjIlPIhpHvH= 8_w3x_mxomwEXNbFiNx5KbHgEFbZ8> and tell them why we should recommit to our nation=E2=80=99s investment in scie= nce. Talk to your friends and family to help spread the word about how harmful these cuts would be for our health, economy, and future. And, we hope to see you at local Stand Up for Science <https://standupforscience2025.org/> events on March 7. --------------------------------------------- Frederick (Erick) Gallun, PhD, FASA, FASHA | he/him/his Professor, Oregon Hearing Research Center, Oregon Health & Science University "Diversity is like being invited to a party, Inclusion is being asked to dance, and Belonging is dancing like no one=E2=80=99s watching" - Gregory L= ewis On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 2:58=E2=80=AFAM Gunter Kreutz <gunter.kreutz@xxxxxxxx= com> wrote: > Dear list, > > the brutal reality is that the US administration has declared war on its > democratic institutions, the legal system, the media, the checks and > balances system, social security, science and humanities, and above all i= t > (and that is not Trump alone, but equally the "masterminds" of the herita= ge > foundation) declared war on the values shared by the so-called free world= . > - Is this exaggerated? > > Who could blame young US scientists to consider their future in Canada, > Britain, the Far East, or in the EU? > > Sorry for being off-topic. I wholeheartedly support and applaud to > scientists standing up and rally, wherever there is need to do so. But it > seems to happen in a strange atmosphere as it becomes evident that the > protection of democratic rights is crumbling. And the country where this = is > happening is not a small republic on the Balkan. > > Sorry also for having no suggestions for how to do better service to youn= g > researchers that getting rid of the current US admin ASAP. The whole worl= d > will hold its breath what the next US administration will look like and > whether they will be able to restore the - in my view - inevitable brain > drain that will hurt the US hearing sciences in the meantime, I am afraid= . > > Slava Ukraine > > Gunter > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Di., 18. M=C3=A4rz 2025 um 05:29 Uhr schrieb Sarah Creel < > 000001009817b89f-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx>: > >> Hi Perry, >> >> I'm so sorry that this is such a stressful time for all of us. It's hard >> enough starting out in science without the entire edifice crumbling arou= nd >> one's ears. >> >> I think that what's going on right now is that there is a sense of >> science solidarity: scientists are fighting for scientists across the >> board, not just in auditory science. I've been to and seen lots of peopl= e >> at Stand Up for Science rallies across the country. People are pelting >> their elected representatives with demands not to silence science. I've >> also seen (and responded to) calls to write supportive notes to program >> officers, SROs, etc. at funding agencies who are currently under huge >> amounts of stress and anxiety. There is HUGE concern amongst all these >> groups about what this is going to do to the next generation of scientis= ts. >> >> One big way that more senior folks can help more junior folks is to do >> our best to make sure funding opportunities stay in place. Without that, >> the support web for PhDs is really not there. So I think a lot of people >> are focusing their energies on advocating for maintaining NIH and NSF. >> >> I would love to see suggestions on Auditory list or other places for >> additional ways to advocate for junior scientists and for science genera= lly. >> >> Hang in there and please know that we want you here. >> Sarah >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 9:23=E2=80=AFPM T. T. Perry <trevortperry@xxxxxxxx= com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Auditory List, >>> >>> I'm a hearing scientist in America where science and s cientists are >>> under extremely heavy attack, Orban style. Yet I've seen almost no >>> statements from senior leaders in our field defending science and early >>> career scientists. Perhaps I'm in a bubble and just haven't witnessed t= hese >>> statements myself. >>> >>> Where are the leaders of our field and why are they so quiet? Does >>> auditory science have a future in America? Are "mid" and "late stage" >>> career people just looking to comply and save themselves? >>> >>> What have you heard lately? >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Perry >>> they/them >>> >> --0000000000006815d60630a154be Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Dear Auditory List,</div><div><br></div><div>I agree = that this is a time of uncertainty and trepidation. I don't think there= are many meaningful actions we can take beyond reaching out to our colleag= ues, especially those more junior, and letting them know that we care.</div= ><div><br></div><div>At Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU), wher= e I work, over 450 scientists at all levels signed a letter explaining how = these cuts will hurt all Oregonians. It was published in the Portland=C2=A0= Business Journal on March=C2=A04, 2025. The link is here, but it is behind = a paywall, so I've copied the text below.=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"ht= tps://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2025/03/04/ohsu-researchers-nih-war= nings.html" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"https://www.bizjournals.com/portland= /news/2025/03/04/ohsu-researchers-nih-warnings.html" style=3D"color:rgb(150= ,96,125);font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">https://www.bizj= ournals.com/portland/news/2025/03/04/ohsu-researchers-nih-warnings.html</a>= </div><div><br></div><div><font color=3D"#212121" face=3D"Aptos, sans-serif= "><span style=3D"font-size:14.6667px">Erick</span></font></div><div><p clas= s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-s= erif;color:rgb(33,33,33);text-indent:0.5in;line-height:12.65pt"><b style=3D= "font-size:11pt;text-indent:0.5in"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-se= rif"><br></span></b></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;font-siz= e:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33);text-indent:0.5in;l= ine-height:12.65pt"><b style=3D"font-size:11pt;text-indent:0.5in"><span sty= le=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">We are Oregon scientists - NIH cuts wil= l hurt all Oregonians</span></b></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:= 0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33= );line-height:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">We are = researchers at Oregon Health & Science University, working every day to= inspire new treatments by learning how our bodies age, fight infections, a= nd develop cancer, heart disease, neurological conditions or mental health = disorders.=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 1= 2pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33);line-he= ight:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The facts are cl= ear.=E2=80=AFLeading edge research done here in Oregon saves lives, and in = the process, it grows our economy and creates jobs for Oregonians. But now,= recent changes in federal policy are putting biomedical research at dire r= isk.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-siz= e:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33);line-height:12.65pt= "><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">We love our work because it = is fascinating and allows us to help people live longer, healthier lives. W= e all know someone who fought with diabetes, cancer, heart disease, dementi= a, or serious childhood infections. We have friends or family with ADHD or = anxiety, or who struggle with suicidality. Treatments for these critically = ill people were developed at universities like ours and millions of lives h= ave been saved as a result.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margi= n:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,= 33);line-height:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Most = of our research is funded by the National Institutes of Health, a federal a= gency and largest funder of biomedical research in the world. This commitme= nt =E2=80=94 supported for decades by both Democrats and Republicans =E2=80= =94 is directly responsible for positioning the United States as the premie= r country for research.=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar= gin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,3= 3,33);line-height:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">In = Oregon alone, the NIH provides=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.unitedformedical= research.org/nih-in-your-state/oregon/" title=3D"https://www.unitedformedic= alresearch.org/nih-in-your-state/oregon/" style=3D"color:rgb(150,96,125)"><= span style=3D"color:purple">hundreds of millions of dollars</span></a>=C2= =A0each year for research, which directly supports more than 5,000 jobs. Ha= lf of OHSU=E2=80=99s research budget, around $300 million per year, comes f= rom the NIH. For every $1 the NIH spends, $2.46 of economic activity is cre= ated according to a recent=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.unitedformedicalrese= arch.org/annual-economic-report/" title=3D"https://www.unitedformedicalrese= arch.org/annual-economic-report/" style=3D"color:rgb(150,96,125)"><span sty= le=3D"color:purple">study</span></a>. That means NIH funding in Oregon gene= rates almost $1 billion every year =E2=80=94 a great return on investment f= or taxpayers.=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0i= n 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33);line= -height:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">By law, our f= indings are openly shared with the public. This ensures that discoveries sp= read quickly and inspire the development of new treatments in the pharmaceu= tical industry, and inform public health policy.=C2=A0</span></p><p class= =3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Apto= s,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33);line-height:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-f= amily:Arial,sans-serif">For example, at OHSU, Gleevec was discovered as a b= reakthrough drug for certain kinds of leukemia through fundamental NIH-fund= ed research right here in Oregon. Gleevec has saved hundreds of thousands o= f lives. Many drug treatments are carefully tested at OHSU though NIH-funde= d clinical trials. In fact, over 100 studies testing new cancer treatments = alone are happening right now at OHSU.=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif= ;color:rgb(33,33,33);line-height:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,= sans-serif">OHSU is Oregon's largest biomedical research institution an= d serves the entire state through its research, health care, and teaching m= issions. This means that, in addition to biomedical discoveries, we are als= o training the next generation of scientists. The entire U.S. biotechnology= industry, a powerhouse much envied by other nations, depends on NIH-funded= research and training within universities like ours.</span></p><p class=3D= "MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif= ;color:rgb(33,33,33);line-height:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,= sans-serif">This is why we were shocked to learn last month that across-the= -board cuts to congressionally approved NIH funding for biomedical research= were ordered, and over 1,000 NIH employees were fired. The cuts claimed to= stop NIH funds from going to=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.nbcnews.com/scien= ce/science-news/trumps-nih-budget-cuts-threaten-research-stirring-panic-rcn= a191744" title=3D"https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/trumps-nih-b= udget-cuts-threaten-research-stirring-panic-rcna191744" style=3D"color:rgb(= 150,96,125)"><span style=3D"color:purple">=E2=80=9Cwaste, fraud and abuse.= =E2=80=9D</span></a>=C2=A0This is false. The funds are used for paying non-= research staff like custodial, maintenance and office employees, and resear= ch necessities like laboratory infrastructure and shared equipment =E2=80= =94 all of which are essential for our research.=C2=A0</span></p><p class= =3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-se= rif;color:rgb(33,33,33);line-height:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Ari= al,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in;= font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33);line-height= :12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Indiscriminately tak= ing funding away for critical research infrastructure is akin to asking a m= echanic to fix your car without a shop or any tools =E2=80=94 plainly impos= sible. While the courts have intervened to block these cuts for now, there = is a risk that the federal government may be turning away from our nation= =E2=80=99s longstanding commitment to innovation.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0</span><= /p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-= family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33);line-height:12.65pt"><span styl= e=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">In addition, arbitrary and thoughtless r= oadblocks to grant review and distribution of funds are currently halting a= ll future science funding by the NIH.=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal= " style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;= color:rgb(33,33,33);line-height:12.65pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,s= ans-serif">Make no mistake, this will have devastating consequences: clinic= al trials will be dropped; years-long research projects will die in their t= racks; and the training of a generation of scientists will be severely dama= ged. Many research laboratories operate on thin margins and depend on the a= ssurance of grant disbursement. If no action is taken now, the losses will = be immediate and profound, including inability to sustain jobs for Oregon s= cientists or their support staffs, or maintain important research infrastru= cture. These cuts will cripple biomedical research and drug development in = the U.S. We should be investing more in science, not less.=C2=A0</span></p>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-fam= ily:Aptos,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33);line-height:12.65pt"><span style= =3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">If you believe in the value of biomedical= research, have a family member in need of medical care, or care about the = leading role of the U.S. in driving innovation, please=C2=A0<a href=3D"http= s://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/sm1.multibriefs.com/t/gcH1AAebaBPW-3-6QVLEgF= KQqHAuaRqYB14faaaaRrBT0MDIhaa?p=3DijrogW*258wsdwq.iZy*amp;Z=3DijrogW*258wsd= wq.iZy*amp;h=3D1*amp;t=3D__;fn5-fn4!!Mi0JBg!MI9vQlCgqPXZSQ-MIQpQPgNgAjIlPIh= pHvH8_w3x_mxomwEXNbFiNx5KbHgEFbZ80CGqexaOC9z8WQ$%22%20o%20%22https://urldef= ense.com/v3/__https://sm1.multibriefs.com/t/gcH1AAebaBPW-3-6QVLEgFKQqHAuaRq= YB14faaaaRrBT0MDIhaa?p=3DijrogW*258wsdwq.iZy*amp;Z=3DijrogW*258wsdwq.iZy*am= p;h=3D1*amp;t=3D__;fn5-fn4!!Mi0JBg!MI9vQlCgqPXZSQ-MIQpQPgNgAjIlPIhpHvH8_w3x= _mxomwEXNbFiNx5KbHgEFbZ8" title=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/sm1.m= ultibriefs.com/t/gcH1AAebaBPW-3-6QVLEgFKQqHAuaRqYB14faaaaRrBT0MDIhaa?p=3Dij= rogW*258wsdwq.iZy*amp;Z=3DijrogW*258wsdwq.iZy*amp;h=3D1*amp;t=3D__;fn5-fn4!= !Mi0JBg!MI9vQlCgqPXZSQ-MIQpQPgNgAjIlPIhpHvH8_w3x_mxomwEXNbFiNx5KbHgEFbZ80CG= qexaOC9z8WQ$%22%20o%20%22https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sm1.multibrief= s.com/t/gcH1AAebaBPW-3-6QVLEgFKQqHAuaRqYB14faaaaRrBT0MDIhaa?p=3DijrogW*258w= sdwq.iZy*amp;Z=3DijrogW*258wsdwq.iZy*amp;h=3D1*amp;t=3D__;fn5-fn4!!Mi0JBg!M= I9vQlCgqPXZSQ-MIQpQPgNgAjIlPIhpHvH8_w3x_mxomwEXNbFiNx5KbHgEFbZ8" style=3D"c= olor:rgb(150,96,125)"><span style=3D"color:purple">contact your elected rep= resentatives</span></a>=C2=A0and tell them why we should recommit to our na= tion=E2=80=99s investment in science. Talk to your friends and family to he= lp spread the word about how harmful these cuts would be for our health, ec= onomy, and future. And, we hope to see you at local=C2=A0<a href=3D"https:/= /standupforscience2025.org/" title=3D"https://standupforscience2025.org/" s= tyle=3D"color:rgb(150,96,125)"><span style=3D"color:purple">Stand Up for Sc= ience</span></a>=C2=A0events on March 7.</span></p><br class=3D"gmail-Apple= -interchange-newline"></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"= data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div = dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roma= n" size=3D"3"> </font><p style=3D"margin:5pt 0in"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"><font col= or=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri">-------------------------------------------= --</font></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000"= face=3D"Calibri">Frederick (Erick) Gallun, PhD, FASA, FASHA | he/him/his<b= r></font></p><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face= =3D"Calibri">Professor,=C2=A0Oregon Hearing Research Center,=C2=A0<font col= or=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri">Oregon Health & Science University</fon= t></font></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face=3D"monospace" s= ize=3D"1"><font color=3D"#000000">"D</font><span style=3D"color:rgb(76= ,76,76)">iversity is like being invited to a party, Inclusion is being aske= d to dance, and Belonging is dancing like no one=E2=80=99s watching" -= Gregory Lewis</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span><= font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3"> </font></span></div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" size= =3D"3"> </font></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmai= l_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue= , Mar 18, 2025 at 2:58=E2=80=AFAM Gunter Kreutz <<a href=3D"mailto:gunte= r.kreutz@xxxxxxxx">gunter.kreutz@xxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockq= uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p= x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Dear list,= </div><div><br></div><div>the brutal reality is that the US administration = has declared war on its democratic institutions, the legal system, the medi= a, the checks and balances system, social security, science and humanities,= and above all it (and that is not Trump alone, but equally the "maste= rminds" of the heritage foundation) declared war on the values shared = by the so-called free world. - Is this exaggerated?</div><div><br></div><di= v>Who could blame young US scientists to consider their future in Canada, B= ritain, the Far East, or in the EU? <br></div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for= being off-topic. I wholeheartedly support and applaud to scientists standi= ng up and rally, wherever there is need to do so. But it seems to happen in= a strange atmosphere as it becomes evident that the protection of democrat= ic rights is crumbling. And the country where this is happening is not a sm= all republic on the Balkan.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry also for having = no suggestions for how to do better service to young researchers that getti= ng rid of the current US admin ASAP. The whole world will hold its breath w= hat the next US administration will look like and whether they will be able= to restore the - in my view - inevitable brain drain that will hurt the US= hearing sciences in the meantime, I am afraid.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><= div>Slava Ukraine</div><div><br></div><div>Gunter</div><div><br></div><div>= <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>= <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class= =3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Am Di., 18. M=C3=A4r= z 2025 um 05:29=C2=A0Uhr schrieb Sarah Creel <<a href=3D"mailto:00000100= 9817b89f-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">000001009817b89f-= dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_= quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,= 204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Perry,</div><div><br></div>= <div>I'm so sorry that this is such a stressful time for all of us. It&= #39;s hard enough starting out in science without the entire edifice crumbl= ing around one's ears.</div><div><br></div><div>I think that what's= going on right now is that there is a sense of science solidarity: scienti= sts are fighting for scientists across the board, not just in auditory scie= nce. I've been to and seen lots of people at Stand Up for Science ralli= es across the country. People are pelting their elected representatives wit= h demands not to silence science. I've also seen (and responded to) cal= ls to write supportive notes to program officers, SROs, etc. at funding age= ncies who are currently under huge amounts of stress and anxiety. There is = HUGE concern amongst all these groups about what this is going to do to the= next generation of scientists.</div><div><br></div><div></div><div>One big= way that more senior folks can help more junior folks is to do our best to= make sure funding opportunities stay in place. Without that, the support w= eb for PhDs is really not there. So I think a lot of people are focusing th= eir energies on advocating for maintaining NIH and NSF.</div><div><br></div= ><div>I would love to see suggestions on Auditory list or other places for = additional ways to advocate for junior scientists and for science generally= .</div><div><br></div><div>Hang in there and please know that we want you h= ere.</div><div>Sarah</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div= ><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g= mail_attr">On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 9:23=E2=80=AFPM T. T. Perry <<a href= =3D"mailto:trevortperry@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">trevortperry@xxxxxxxx= </a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:= 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">= <div dir=3D"auto">Hi Auditory List,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"= auto">I'm a hearing scientist in America where science and s cientists = are under extremely heavy attack, Orban style. Yet I've seen almost no = statements from senior leaders in our field defending science and early car= eer scientists. Perhaps I'm in a bubble and just haven't witnessed = these statements myself.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"= >Where are the leaders of our field and why are they so quiet? Does auditor= y science have a future in America? Are "mid" and "late stag= e" career people just looking to comply and save themselves?=C2=A0</di= v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">What have you heard lately?= </div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sincerely,=C2=A0</div><= div dir=3D"auto">Perry</div><div dir=3D"auto">they/them</div></div> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> --0000000000006815d60630a154be--