Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Silence from leaders in auditory science From: Brian Frost <brianfrost97@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:03:34 -0400--000000000000b910a706308a418f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Perry - I am also a young American hearing scientist (postdoc at Rockefeller University) with serious concerns about the state of auditory research/NIDCD funding in the United States. It is true that there has been little in terms of vocal pushback from our community. For example, a quick google search will show that there are no high-profile articles regarding our field in response to funding cuts. It is important, if you would like to organize such a response, to formalize what is meant by: 1) Statement 2) Senior leaders It may not be productive to chastise people for "looking to comply" or "save themselves" when later-career researchers are also at threat from public funding cuts. In my experience, people across the field and across age groups are concerned not only for themselves but for their students and colleagues. There is not really a way for such people to comply or save themselves if their grants disappear. There is a sense of futility and fear at all levels. It is also important to note that our colleagues span the political spectrum, and many may be in support of the cuts -- we cannot speak for the entire field. I would support, very much, a public statement from scientists in the field that could hopefully make it to a high-profile publication such as the New York Times. A productive and well-led team could certainly draft such a statement, but it would need to be backed by late-career, awarded scientists to have any impact. I can say that many young scientists at auditory labs here in New York, and at least two PIs from institutions I am familiar with would probably be willing to consider this idea. They are not on this list and I cannot speak for them, but I can reach out. Such a statement would require significant organization that is not so easy to achieve in any field. If any senior scientist in this email chain would be interested in spearheading such an effort, that would be wonderful. Otherwise, the idea is DoA because the concern is not sufficiently present in the community -- that would be a shame, but may be the case. Thanks, Brian Frost On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 12:14=E2=80=AFAM T. T. Perry <trevortperry@xxxxxxxx= m> wrote: > Hi Auditory List, > > I'm a hearing scientist in America where science and s cientists are unde= r > extremely heavy attack, Orban style. Yet I've seen almost no statements > from senior leaders in our field defending science and early career > scientists. Perhaps I'm in a bubble and just haven't witnessed these > statements myself. > > Where are the leaders of our field and why are they so quiet? Does > auditory science have a future in America? Are "mid" and "late stage" > career people just looking to comply and save themselves? > > What have you heard lately? > > Sincerely, > Perry > they/them > --000000000000b910a706308a418f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Perry -</div><div><br></div><div>I am also a young= American hearing scientist (postdoc at Rockefeller University) with seriou= s concerns about the state of auditory research/NIDCD funding in the United= States. It is true that there has been little in terms of vocal pushback f= rom our community. For example, a quick google search will show that there = are no high-profile articles regarding our field in response to funding cut= s. It is important, if you would like to organize such a response, to forma= lize what is meant by:</div><div><br></div><div>1) Statement</div><div>2) S= enior leaders</div><div><br></div><div>It may not be productive to chastise= people for "looking to comply" or "save themselves" wh= en later-career researchers are also at threat from public funding cuts. In= my experience, people across the field and across age groups are concerned= not only for themselves but for their students and colleagues. There is no= t really a way for such people to comply or save themselves if their grants= disappear. There is a sense of futility and fear at all levels. It is also= important to note that our colleagues span the political spectrum, and man= y may be in support of the cuts -- we cannot speak for the entire field.</d= iv><div><br></div><div>I would support, very much, a public statement from = scientists in the field that could hopefully make it to a high-profile publ= ication such as the New York Times. A productive and well-led team could ce= rtainly draft such a statement, but it would need to be backed by late-care= er, awarded scientists to have any impact.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I= can say that many young scientists at auditory labs here in New York, and = at least two PIs from institutions I am familiar with would probably be wil= ling to consider this idea. They are not on this list and I cannot speak fo= r them, but I can reach out. Such a statement would require significant org= anization that is not so easy to achieve in any field. If any senior scient= ist in this email chain would be interested in spearheading such an effort,= that would be wonderful. Otherwise, the idea is DoA because the concern is= not sufficiently present in the community -- that would be a shame, but ma= y be the case.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Brian Frost</div>= </div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr"= class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 12:14=E2=80=AFAM T. T. Perry = <<a href=3D"mailto:trevortperry@xxxxxxxx">trevortperry@xxxxxxxx</a>>= ; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px= 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div di= r=3D"auto">Hi Auditory List,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I= 'm a hearing scientist in America where science and s cientists are und= er extremely heavy attack, Orban style. Yet I've seen almost no stateme= nts from senior leaders in our field defending science and early career sci= entists. Perhaps I'm in a bubble and just haven't witnessed these s= tatements myself.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Where = are the leaders of our field and why are they so quiet? Does auditory scien= ce have a future in America? Are "mid" and "late stage"= career people just looking to comply and save themselves?=C2=A0</div><div = dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">What have you heard lately?</div><= div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sincerely,=C2=A0</div><div dir= =3D"auto">Perry</div><div dir=3D"auto">they/them</div></div> </blockquote></div> --000000000000b910a706308a418f--