Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] [External] Re: [AUDITORY] Recommendations for instruments to assess music training? From: "Patel, Aniruddh D." <a.patel@xxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 15:20:52 +0000--_000_SA3PR05MB10385D728DED2AB3490FC94CBE30F2SA3PR05MB10385na_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike, In addition to Massimo's helpful suggestions, you might want to take a look= at this chapter: Ilari, B., & Habibi, A. (2023). The musician-nonmusician conundrum and deve= lopmental music research<https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-edited-volume/5578= /chapter/4162119/The-Musician-Nonmusician-Conundrum-and>. In: E.H. Margul= is, P. Loui, & D. Loughridge (Eds.) The Science Music Borderlands: Reckonin= g with the Past, Imagining the Future. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press (pp. 329-34= 5). (The chapter is from a freely available<https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-edi= ted-volume/5578/The-Science-Music-BorderlandsReckoning-with-the> book from = MIT Press.) Regards, Ani Aniruddh D. Patel Professor, Dept. of Psychology, Tufts University CIFAR Fellow Brain, Mind, and Consciousness Program https://as.tufts.edu/psychology/people/faculty/aniruddh-patel ________________________________ From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx>= on behalf of Massimo Grassi <massimo.grassi@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2024 2:26 AM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> Subject: [External] Re: [AUDITORY] Recommendations for instruments to asses= s music training? Dear Gordon, there are various ways (and yet not a standard way) to assess the level of = musical training of a person (see references below for an extended discussi= on). My personal recommendation is to use the Gold-MSI (M=FCllensiefen et al., 2= 014), 38 self-assessment items about musical training but also about the re= lationship with music. It is widely used, so you can compare your data with= the rest of the research. M=FCllensiefen, D., Gingras, B., Musil, J., & Stewart, L. (2014). The Music= ality of Non-Musicians: An Index for Assessing Musical Sophistication in th= e General Population. PLOS ONE, 9(2), e89642. https://doi.org/10.1371/journ= al.pone.0089642 Zhang, J. D., & Schubert, E. (2019). A Single Item Measure for Identifying = Musician and Nonmusician Categories Based on Measures of Musical Sophistica= tion. Music Perception, 36(5), 457=96467. https://doi.org/10.1525/mp.2019.3= 6.5.457 Zhang, J. D., Susino, M., McPherson, G. E., & Schubert, E. (2020). The defi= nition of a musician in music psychology: A literature review and the six-y= ear rule. Psychology of Music, 48(3), 389=96409. https://doi.org/10.1177/03= 0573561880403 Best, m Il giorno sab 28 dic 2024 alle ore 06:09 Gordon, Michael <GORDONM10@xxxxxxxx= du<mailto:GORDONM10@xxxxxxxx>> ha scritto: Dear List, I am emailing to request your recommendations on assessment tools and surve= ys that could effectively help us gauge the level of musical training our p= articipants may have received earlier in their lives. Specifically, we are = interested in understanding the extent of their training, the intensity and= variety of that training, and the duration of their musical experience. Do you have any preferred tools or resources for this type of assessment? I= =92ll happily post a summary next week of anything that you provide. Thank you for your time and insights. I look forward to your suggestions. Mike -- Dr. Michael Gordon Professor of Psychology William Paterson University Gordonm10@xxxxxxxx<mailto:Gordonm10@xxxxxxxx> Caution: This message originated from outside of the Tufts University organ= ization. Please exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments= . When in doubt, email the TTS Service Desk at it@xxxxxxxx<mailto:it@xxxxxxxx= .edu> or call them directly at 617-627-3376. --_000_SA3PR05MB10385D728DED2AB3490FC94CBE30F2SA3PR05MB10385na_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Hi Mike,</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> In addition to Massimo's helpful suggestions, you might want to take a look= at this chapter:</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Ilari, B., & Habibi, A. (2023).<a href=3D"https://direct.mit.edu/books/= oa-edited-volume/5578/chapter/4162119/The-Musician-Nonmusician-Conundrum-an= d" id=3D"LPlnk" title=3D"https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-edited-volume/5578= /chapter/4162119/The-Musician-Nonmusician-Conundrum-and"> The musician-nonmusician conundrum and developmental music research</a>. In: &= nbsp; E.H. Margulis, P. Loui, & D. Loughridge (Eds.) <i>The Science Music Borderlands: Reckoning with the Past, Imagining the Fu= ture. </i> Cambridge, MA: MIT Press (pp. 329-345).</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> (The chapter is from a <a href=3D"https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-edited-vo= lume/5578/The-Science-Music-BorderlandsReckoning-with-the" id=3D"LPlnk" tit= le=3D"https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-edited-volume/5578/The-Science-Music-= BorderlandsReckoning-with-the"> freely available</a> book from MIT Press.)</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Regards,</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFo= nt, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Ani</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, = Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div id=3D"Signature"> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Aniruddh D. Patel</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Professor, Dept. of Psychology, Tufts University</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> CIFAR Fellow <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Brain, Mind, and Consciousness Program</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <a href=3D"https://as.tufts.edu/psychology/people/faculty/aniruddh-patel" i= d=3D"anchor-bd5d0ecf-c49f-59bf-bbfe-e059f1c8d5fe">https://as.tufts.edu/psyc= hology/people/faculty/aniruddh-patel</a></div> </div> <div id=3D"appendonsend"></div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st= yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> AUDITORY - Research i= n Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of Massimo= Grassi <massimo.grassi@xxxxxxxx><br> <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 28, 2024 2:26 AM<br> <b>To:</b> AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx><br> <b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: [AUDITORY] Recommendations for instruments t= o assess music training?</font> <div> </div> </div> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div dir=3D"ltr">Dear Gordon, <div><br> </div> <div>there are various ways (and yet not a standard way) to assess the= level of musical training of a person (see references below for an ex= tended discussion).</div> <div>My personal recommendation is to use the Gold-MSI (M=FCllensiefen= et al., 2014), 38 self-assessment items about musical training but also ab= out the relationship with music. It is widely used, so you can compare your= data with the rest of the research.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>M=FCllensiefen, D., Gingras, B., Musil, J., & Stewart, L. (2014). = The Musicality of Non-Musicians: An Index for Assessing Musical Sophisticat= ion in the General Population. PLOS ONE, 9(2), e89642. <a href=3D"https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0089642">https://doi.org/10= .1371/journal.pone.0089642</a><br> </div> Zhang, J. D., & Schubert, E. (2019). A Single Item Measure for Identify= ing Musician and Nonmusician Categories Based on Measures of Musical Sophis= tication. Music Perception, 36(5), 457=96467. <a href=3D"https://doi.org/10.1525/mp.2019.36.5.457">https://doi.org/10.152= 5/mp.2019.36.5.457</a><br> Zhang, J. D., Susino, M., McPherson, G. E., & Schubert, E. (2020). The = definition of a musician in music psychology: A literature review and the s= ix-year rule. Psychology of Music, 48(3), 389=96409. <a href=3D"https://doi.org/10.1177/030573561880403">https://doi.org/10.1177= /030573561880403</a><br> <div> </div> </div> <div>Best,</div> <div>m</div> <br> <div class=3D"x_gmail_quote x_gmail_quote_container"> <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">Il giorno sab 28 dic 2024 alle ore = 06:09 Gordon, Michael <<a href=3D"mailto:GORDONM10@xxxxxxxx">GORDONM10@xxxxxxxx= wpunj.edu</a>> ha scritto:<br> </div> <blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; bord= er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex"> <div class=3D"x_msg-6522017135789986564"> <div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D""> <div class=3D"x_m_-6522017135789986564WordSection1"> <div> <div> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Dear = List, <u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></= u> <u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">I am = emailing to request your recommendations on assessment tools and surveys th= at could effectively help us <b>gauge the level of musical training our participants may have received e= arlier in their lives</b>. Specifically, we are interested in understanding= the extent of their training, the intensity and variety of that training, = and the duration of their musical experience. <u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></= u> <u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Do yo= u have any preferred tools or resources for this type of assessment? I=92ll= happily post a summary next week of anything that you provide. <u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></= u> <u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></= u> <u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Thank= you for your time and insights. I look forward to your suggestions. <u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></= u> <u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Mike<= u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></= u> <u></u></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></= u> <u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">--<u>= </u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Dr. M= ichael Gordon<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Profe= ssor of Psychology<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">Willi= am Paterson University<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><a hr= ef=3D"mailto:Gordonm10@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">Gordonm10@xxxxxxxx</a>= <u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></= u> <u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><u></= u> <u></u></span></p> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> <br> <table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" align=3D"left" widt= h=3D"100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"background:#00A0d2; padding:5pt 2pt 5pt 2pt"></td> <td width=3D"100%" cellpadding=3D"7px 6px 7px 15px" style=3D"background:#e5= f5fa; padding:5pt 4pt 5pt 12pt; word-wrap:break-word"> <div style=3D"color:#222222"><span style=3D"color:#222; font-weight:bold">C= aution:</span> This message originated from outside of the Tufts University= organization. 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