Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Fwd: [AUDITORY] MUSHRA test with open reference; and then without open reference From: Hannes Helmholz <hannes.helmholz@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:43:10 +0200--------------npqYtlBgWsRjHseP2hDIb3Fx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------Nq1u94bw8Udn031PyRfh6zk1"; protected-headers="v1" From: Hannes Helmholz <hannes.helmholz@xxxxxxxx> To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Message-ID: <4b0b6b22-b00d-49b4-9140-57d8f7419a50@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Fwd: [AUDITORY] MUSHRA test with open reference; and then without open reference References: <SEZPR01MB46793C30781B436CED62100C908D2@xxxxxxxx> <CAB=2e1S5JoE+_ErJQLa7qLNM4PLUjvcRGEpCzSvq=AAzkaqzSA@xxxxxxxx> <6758dd7aa0c5c5b09fe3b45dcdf71b36@xxxxxxxx> In-Reply-To: <6758dd7aa0c5c5b09fe3b45dcdf71b36@xxxxxxxx> --------------Nq1u94bw8Udn031PyRfh6zk1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 VGhpcyBpcyBhbiBpbnRlcmVzdGluZyBzdWJqZWN0LiBUaGVyZSBpcyBhIGZvbGxvdy11cCBy ZWNvbW1lbmRhdGlvbiB0aGF0IA0KY291bGQgYXBwbHkgdG8geW91ciBjb250ZXh0LiBUaGVy ZSBpcyBubyBjYXRjaHkgYWJicmV2aWF0aW9uIGluIHRoZSANCnJlY29tbWVuZGF0aW9uLCBi dXQgaXRzIGRldmVsb3BlcnMgKEZyYXVuaG9mZXIgSURNVCkgZW5kb3JzZSB0aGUgdGVybSAN Ck11U0NSIChtdWx0aS1zdGltdWx1cyBjYXRlZ29yeSByYXRpbmcsIGluIHRoZSBzZW5zZSBv ZiBkaWZmZXJlbnQgDQpjYXRlZ29yaWVzLCBpLmUuLCAgcGVyY2VwdHVhbCBhdHRyaWJ1dGVz LCBiZWluZyBldmFsdWF0ZWQgZm9yIHNldmVyYWwgDQpjb25kaXRpb25zIG9uIHNlcGFyYXRl IE1VU0hSQS1saWtlIHBhZ2VzL3RyaWFscykuDQoNCklUVS1SIEJTLjIxMzItMCwg4oCcTWV0 aG9kIGZvciB0aGUgU3ViamVjdGl2ZSBRdWFsaXR5IEFzc2Vzc21lbnQgb2YgDQpBdWRpYmxl IERpZmZlcmVuY2VzIG9mIFNvdW5kIFN5c3RlbXMgdXNpbmcgTXVsdGlwbGUgU3RpbXVsaSB3 aXRob3V0IGEgDQpHaXZlbiBSZWZlcmVuY2Uu4oCdIEludGVybmF0aW9uYWwgVGVsZWNvbW11 bmljYXRpb25zIFVuaW9uLCBwcC4gMeKAkzE4LCAyMDE5Lg0KDQpJJ20gdW5hd2FyZSBvZiBz dHVkaWVzIGRpcmVjdGx5IGNvbXBhcmluZyB0aGUgcmVzdWx0cyBmcm9tIE1VU0hSQSBhbmQg DQpNdVNDUi4gV2UgZXhwb3NlZCBzdWJqZWN0cyB0byBzZXZlcmFsIGNvbmRpdGlvbnMgd2l0 aG91dCBhIHJlZmVyZW5jZSANCihhbHRob3VnaCBoaWRkZW4gaGlnaCBhbmQgbG93ICJhbmNo b3IiIGNvbmRpdGlvbnMgd2VyZSBpbmNsdWRlZCkuIFRoZXkgDQp3ZXJlIGFza2VkIHRvIGV2 YWx1YXRlIGhlYWQtdHJhY2tlZCBiaW5hdXJhbCByZXByb2R1Y3Rpb25zJyAib3ZlcmFsbCAN CnF1YWxpdHkiIGZyb20gdmFyaW91cyBtaWNyb3Bob25lIGFycmF5cy4gSSBjb25zaWRlciB0 aGlzIGEgcmVsYXRpdmVseSANCmNvbXBsZXggYW5kIG9wZW4gdGFzayBzaW5jZSBzdWJqZWN0 cyBtdXN0IGVzdGFibGlzaCB0aGVpciBpbnRlcm5hbCANCnJlZmVyZW5jZSBvbiBlYWNoIHRy aWFsL3BhZ2Ugb2YgY29uZGl0aW9ucy4NCldlIG9ic2VydmVkIHRyZW5kcyBzaW1pbGFyIHRv IHRob3NlIGluIHRoZSBleGlzdGluZyBsaXRlcmF0dXJlIHRoYXQgDQplbXBsb3llZCBNVVNI UkEgaW4gY29tcGFyYWJsZSBzdHVkaWVzLiBIb3dldmVyLCB0aGVyZSB3ZXJlIG1vcmUgDQpj b25zaWRlcmFibGUgdmFyaWF0aW9ucyBhbmQgaW5jb25zaXN0ZW5jaWVzIHRoYW4gd2UgaGF2 ZSBzZWVuIGluIGZvcm1lciANCk1VU0hSQSBleHBlcmltZW50cy4gSSB3b3VsZCBzYXkgdGhp cyBpcyBub3Qgc3VycHJpc2luZywgY29uc2lkZXJpbmcgdGhlIA0KbmF0dXJlIG9mIHRoZSB0 YXNrLg0KDQpJVFUtUiBCUy4yMTMyLTAgcmVjb21tZW5kcyB1c2luZyBleHBlcnQgbGlzdGVu ZXJzIGFzIGEgY291bnRlcm1lYXN1cmUgdG8gDQpsYXJnZSB2YXJpYW5jZXMsIHdoaWNoIHdl IGNvdWxkIG5vdCByZWFzb25hYmx5IGltcGxlbWVudC4gQW4gYWx0ZXJuYXRpdmUgDQppZGVh IHdvdWxkIGJlIGVtcGxveWluZyBtb3JlIHN1YmplY3RzIGFuZCBleGNsdWRpbmcgbGlzdGVu ZXJzIGJhc2VkIG9uIA0Kc29tZSBxdWFudGlmaWFibGUgY29uc2lzdGVuY3kgbWVhc3VyZSAo YWx0aG91Z2ggdGhpcyB3b3VsZCBoYXZlIHRvIGJlIA0KZXZhbHVhdGVkIGFuZCBqdXN0aWZp ZWQgdmVyeSBjYXJlZnVsbHkpLg0KDQpCZXN0IHdpc2hlcywNCi9IYW5uZXMNClBoRCBTdHVk ZW50LCBDaGFsbWVycyBVbml2ZXJzaXR5IG9mIFRlY2hub2xvZ3ksIEdvdGhlbmJ1cmcsIFN3 ZWRlbg0KDQpPbiAyMDI0LTA4LTIwIDExOjE4LCBSYXVsIFNhbmNoZXotTG9wZXogd3JvdGU6 DQo+IERlYXIgQXJpaml0LA0KPiANCj4gVGhhdCdzIGFuIGV4Y2VsbGVudCBwb2ludC4gQXMg b2YgeWV0LCBJIGhhdmVuJ3QgY29tZSBhY3Jvc3MgYW55IHN0dWRpZXMgDQo+IGRpcmVjdGx5 IGludmVzdGlnYXRpbmcgdGhhdCBzcGVjaWZpYyBjb21wYXJpc29uLiBIb3dldmVyLCB0aGUg DQo+IGRldmVsb3BtZW50IG9mIE1VU0hSQSBsaWtlbHkgaW5jbHVkZWQgc3VjaCBhbiBldmFs dWF0aW9uLiBUaGUgbWV0aG9kIGlzIA0KPiBkZWZpbmVkIGluIElUVS1SIFJlY29tbWVuZGF0 aW9uIEJTLjE1MzQtMy4gVGhlIGludHJvZHVjdGlvbiBzdGF0ZXM6DQo+IA0KPiAiVGhpcyBS ZWNvbW1lbmRhdGlvbiBkZXNjcmliZXMgYSBtZXRob2QgZm9yIHRoZSBzdWJqZWN0aXZlIGFz c2Vzc21lbnQgb2YgDQo+IGludGVybWVkaWF0ZSBhdWRpbyBxdWFsaXR5LiBUaGlzIG1ldGhv ZCByZWZsZWN0cyBtYW55IGFzcGVjdHMgb2YgDQo+IFJlY29tbWVuZGF0aW9uIElUVS1SIEJT LjExMTYgYW5kIGluY29ycG9yYXRlcyB0aGUgc2FtZSBncmFkaW5nIHNjYWxlIA0KPiB1c2Vk IGZvciBwaWN0dXJlIHF1YWxpdHkgZXZhbHVhdGlvbiAoaS5lLiBSZWNvbW1lbmRhdGlvbiBJ VFUtUiBCVC41MDApLiINCj4gDQo+IFdoaWxlIEJTLjExMTYgZmVhdHVyZXMgYSBoaWRkZW4g cmVmZXJlbmNlLCBpdCBsYWNrcyBhIGhpZGRlbiBhbmNob3IuIFRvIA0KPiBhc3Nlc3MgaW50 ZXJtZWRpYXRlIGF1ZGlvIHF1YWxpdHksIGEgbmV3IG1ldGhvZCB3YXMgZGV2ZWxvcGVkICht b3JlIA0KPiBkZXRhaWxzIGhlcmU6IGh0dHBzOi8vc2VjdXJlLmFlcy5vcmcvZm9ydW0vcHVi cy9jb25mZXJlbmNlcy8/ZWxpYj04MDU2KS4NCj4gDQo+IENydWNpYWxseSwgYW5hbHl6aW5n IGhvdyB0aGUgcGFuZWwgdXRpbGl6ZXMgdGhlIHNjYWxlIHJlcXVpcmVzIGJvdGggdGhlIA0K PiBSZWZlcmVuY2UgYW5kIHRoZSBBbmNob3IgZm9yIG1lYW5pbmdmdWwgZGlmZmVyZW5jZSBl dmFsdWF0aW9ucy4gSWYgDQo+IHRoZXJlJ3Mgbm8gcmVmZXJlbmNlLCBpdCdzIHNpbXBseSBu b3QgTVVTSFJBIGJ1dCBhIGRpZmZlcmVudCB0eXBlIG9mIA0KPiBhc3Nlc3NtZW50LiBJbiBN VVNIUkEsIHBhcnRpY2lwYW50cyBwZXJmb3JtIG11bHRpLWNvbXBhcmlzb25zIGFuZCBwbGFj ZSANCj4gdGhlaXIgcmF0aW5ncyBiZXR3ZWVuIHRoZSByZWZlcmVuY2UgYW5kIGFuY2hvci4g V2l0aG91dCBhIHJlZmVyZW5jZSwgDQo+IHRoZXkgbmVlZCB0byBlc3RhYmxpc2ggb25lIGZp cnN0LiBUaGlzIGluY3JlYXNlcyB0aGUgcmlzayBvZiANCj4gaW5jb25zaXN0ZW5jeSBhY3Jv c3MgcmVwZXRpdGlvbnMsIHBvdGVudGlhbGx5IGxlYWRpbmcgdG8gbm9pc3kgZGF0YS4NCj4g DQo+IFdvdWxkIHlvdSBiZSB3aWxsaW5nIHRvIHNoYXJlIHNvbWUgbW9yZSBkZXRhaWxzIGFi b3V0IHlvdXIgZXhwZXJpbWVudD8gDQo+IEkndmUgZGVhbHQgd2l0aCBzaW1pbGFyIHF1ZXN0 aW9ucyBpbiB0aGUgcGFzdCBhbmQgbWF5IGJlIGFibGUgdG8gb2ZmZXIgDQo+IGFzc2lzdGFu Y2Ugb3IgcG9pbnQgeW91IHRvd2FyZHMgc29tZW9uZSBtb3JlIGV4cGVyaWVuY2VkLCBsaWtl IEZvcmNlIA0KPiBUZWNobm9sb2d5LCBmb3IgZnVydGhlciBndWlkYW5jZS4NCj4gDQo+IEJl c3Qgd2lzaGVzLA0KPiANCj4gLS0tDQo+IFJhdWwgU2FuY2hlei1Mb3Bleg0KPiBIZWFyaW5n IHNjaWVudGlzdCB8IEF1ZGlvIEVuZ2luZWVyIHwgVGVjaG5pY2FsIEF1ZGlvbG9naXN0DQo+ IEluc3RpdHV0ZSBvZiBHbG9iYWxseSBEaXN0cmlidXRlZCBPcGVuIFJlc2VhcmNoIGFuZCBF ZHVjYXRpb24NCj4gDQo+IE9uIDIwMjQtMDgtMjAgMTA6NTIsIFJhdWwgU2FuY2hlei1Mb3Bl eiB3cm90ZToNCj4+IC0tLS0tLS0tLS0gRm9yd2FyZGVkIG1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0tLS0tDQo+ PiBGcm9tOiAjQVJJSklUIEJJU1dBUyMgPDAwMDAwMzI5MmY0NDg3MWMtZG1hcmMtcmVxdWVz dEBsaXN0cy5tY2dpbGwuY2E+DQo+PiBEYXRlOiBUdWUsIDIwIEF1ZyAyMDI0IGF0IDA5OjE0 DQo+PiBTdWJqZWN0OiBbQVVESVRPUlldIE1VU0hSQSB0ZXN0IHdpdGggb3BlbiByZWZlcmVu Y2U7IGFuZCB0aGVuIHdpdGhvdXQNCj4+IG9wZW4gcmVmZXJlbmNlDQo+PiBUbzogPEFVRElU T1JZQGxpc3RzLm1jZ2lsbC5jYT4NCj4+DQo+PiDCoERlYXIgYWxsOg0KPj4NCj4+IMKgSXMg dGhlcmUgYW55IHJlc2VhcmNoIG9uIGhvdyBzdWJqZWN0aXZlIHJhdGluZ3MgaW4gYSBNVVNI UkEgdGVzdA0KPj4gbWlnaHQgYmUgYWZmZWN0ZWQgaWYgdGhlIHNhbWUgc3lzdGVtcyAoaS5l LiwgaGlkZGVuIHJlZmVyZW5jZSwNCj4+IGFuY2hvcnMsIGNvZGVjcyB1bmRlciB0ZXN0KSBh cmUgcmUtZXZhbHVhdGVkIHdpdGhvdXQgdGhlIGFiaWxpdHkgdG8NCj4+IGNvbXBhcmUgdGhl bSBhZ2FpbnN0IGFuIG9wZW4gcmVmZXJlbmNlPw0KPj4NCj4+IMKgSWYgbm8gc3VjaCBzdHVk aWVzL3BhcGVycyBleGlzdCwgY2FuIHdlIG1ha2UgYW55IGVkdWNhdGVkIGd1ZXNzZXMNCj4+ IGFib3V0IHRoZSBwb3RlbnRpYWwgb3V0Y29tZXM/DQo+PiDCoEkgaW1hZ2luZSB0aGF0LCBp biB0aGUgYWJzZW5jZSBvZiBhIHJlZmVyZW5jZSwgdGhlIHRhc2sgZm9yIHRoZQ0KPj4gc3Vi amVjdHMgd291bGQgYmVjb21lIG1vcmUgZGlmZmljdWx0Lg0KPj4gwqBBbnkgb3RoZXIgZ3Vl c3Nlcz8NCj4+DQo+PiDCoFRoYW5rIHlvdS4NCj4+DQo+PiDCoEJlc3QgcmVnYXJkcywNCj4+ IMKgQXJpaml0DQo+Pg0KPj4gwqAqKkRpc2NsYWltZXIqKiBUaGUgc2VuZGVyIG9mIHRoaXMg ZW1haWwgZG9lcyBub3QgcmVwcmVzZW50IE5hbnlhbmcNCj4+IFRlY2hub2xvZ2ljYWwgVW5p dmVyc2l0eSBhbmQgdGhpcyBlbWFpbCBkb2VzIG5vdCBleHByZXNzIHRoZSB2aWV3cyBvcg0K Pj4gb3BpbmlvbnMgb2YgdGhlIFVuaXZlcnNpdHkuDQoNCg== --------------Nq1u94bw8Udn031PyRfh6zk1-- --------------npqYtlBgWsRjHseP2hDIb3Fx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsF5BAABCAAjFiEE42VH5m+QxPUYEbsqOET9smFm3aMFAmbEnW8FAwAAAAAACgkQOET9smFm3aPo HhAAhPEQzub++/nFJIS3Dp6aI4aFAhPSgCxbygJeyU5myeAATKiAaZpD0s3SFzpdrTHtmolgDxzt QWLR4B+28lAo5tNWRo0NiBoNgxgIMuG3S0MWEBxx60oA8DtT6W5lvVlTMxBDJXpMuEyXuuaG4fkA 8rR3NMxRaKSZ/h62xpm2JI6hHjfQDfPlxz6kouNCLvLjDQFDPWEeAP4j4jz9yzmU2mNj6287xKrd wT0b6lojwzftTH49WMsazl2GU1SNeP+j5Bd4fiPk4vavYqTA9Ync+omNNhLKsCQjU9df6oofyf0m H5Cr78R/CBk5jTxgenXNXlKEgU1b2mFzyNYd3kqR1nDJ6GgOHLlhuPVfM/lcQz2b1n057pe6UwKz KAHRWQ+9g3rEXUXpvXi1dJl4TB6UiEyNxP/LuSxQIBc0FvglABZ5nn2wPTCOUKT5yBXoqsO/ccIi RbFubDt0U59MklNDzdRiyD3lP2GKzv/ywAUO5nf9Jy2vjcKGZUJ5HQVIDptgYjKUyDZTsjK5PTEG N0mSh5MhvYkFuQz6jb7UmIUlvFdp8EN6iG2eeXecIiPfAYGl5Vr0cNVgGL6f6ak0K2cDPAggYkMN 1Eh5My0KdxF82lhO23kXwCVBfJDDfePAnexIPWl5N4kfndZYovmI4PD29TJOs9pbU2ab9QY4QRDH kXM= =xFAd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------npqYtlBgWsRjHseP2hDIb3Fx--