Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] arXiv web of trust From: Jonathan Z Simon <jzsimon@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 08:54:19 -0400--Apple-Mail=_13FF7B6A-25F9-4D76-A4CC-6C0308C0ECB8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Matt, In this context I would avoid the term =E2=80=9Cpublishing=E2=80=9D, = since that has such a different meaning for so many people, but I = personally do take advantage of posting preprints on a public server = (like arXiv) almost every chance I get. Preprints (preprint =3D a fully written paper that is not (yet) = published) have been useful for many decades, originally in physics, as = a way of getting one's research results out in a timely manner. Other = key benefits are that it establishes primacy of the research findings, = that it is citable in other researchers' papers, and that it can be = promoted by social media such as this listserve (more below on this). = But the biggest benefit is typically getting the paper out into the = world for others to learn from, without having to wait based on the = whims of publishers and individual reviewers. If most of your published = papers get accepted eventually, and the most important findings don=E2=80=99= t get cut in the review process, then preprints are something you should = definitely consider. Reviewers often make published papers better, but = maybe not so much better that it=E2=80=99s worth waiting many months for = others to see your results. arXiv is the oldest website for posting preprints, and if its Audio and = Speech section is active, that might be a good place to post your = preprints. But there may be other options for you. As an auditory = neuroscientist I typically use bioRxiv (e.g., "Changes in Cortical = Directional Connectivity during Difficult Listening in Younger and Older = Adults=E2=80=9D = <https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.05.19.541500>), but I also = use PsyArXiv if the topic is more perceptual than neural (e.g., = =E2=80=9CAttention Mobilization as a Modulator of Listening Effort: = Evidence from Pupillometry=E2=80=9D <https://psyarxiv.com/u5xw2>). [See = what I mean about promoting your research on social media?]=20 I=E2=80=99m sure others have opinions too. Jonathan > On May 22, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Matt Flax <flatmax@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >=20 > Is anyone publishing on arXiv at the moment ? It seems that to publish = there they rely on a web of trust. >=20 > There is an Audio and Speech section of arXiv which would suit our = community. >=20 > thanks >=20 > Matt -- Jonathan Z. Simon (he/him) University of Maryland Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering / Dept. of Biology / = Institute for Systems Research 8223 Paint Branch Dr. College Park, MD 20742 USA Office: 1-301-405-3645, Lab: 1-301-405-9604, Fax: 1-301-314-9281 http://www.isr.umd.edu/Labs/CSSL/simonlab/ --Apple-Mail=_13FF7B6A-25F9-4D76-A4CC-6C0308C0ECB8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D"">Matt,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">In this = context I would avoid the term =E2=80=9Cpublishing=E2=80=9D, since that = has such a different meaning for so many people, but I personally do = take advantage of posting preprints on a public server (like arXiv) = almost every chance I get.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Preprints (preprint =3D a fully written paper that is not = (yet) published) have been useful for many decades, originally in = physics, as a way of getting one's research results out in a timely = manner. Other key benefits are that it establishes primacy of the = research findings, that it is citable in other researchers' papers, and = that it can be promoted by social media such as this listserve (more = below on this). But the biggest benefit is typically getting the paper = out into the world for others to learn from, without having to wait = based on the whims of publishers and individual reviewers. If most of = your published papers get accepted eventually, and the most important = findings don=E2=80=99t get cut in the review process, then preprints are = something you should definitely consider. Reviewers often make published = papers better, but maybe not so much better that it=E2=80=99s worth = waiting many months for others to see your results.</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">arXiv is the oldest = website for posting preprints, and if its Audio and Speech section is = active, that might be a good place to post your preprints. But there may = be other options for you. As an auditory neuroscientist I typically use = bioRxiv (e.g., "Changes in Cortical Directional Connectivity during = Difficult Listening in Younger and Older Adults=E2=80=9D <<a = href=3D"https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.05.19.541500" = class=3D"">https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.05.19.541500</a>&g= t;), but I also use PsyArXiv if the topic is more perceptual than neural = (e.g., =E2=80=9CAttention Mobilization as a Modulator of Listening = Effort: Evidence from Pupillometry=E2=80=9D <<a = href=3D"https://psyarxiv.com/u5xw2" = class=3D"">https://psyarxiv.com/u5xw2</a>>). [See what I mean about = promoting your research on social media?] </div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m sure others have opinions = too.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Jonathan</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On May 22, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Matt Flax <<a = href=3D"mailto:flatmax@xxxxxxxx" class=3D"">flatmax@xxxxxxxx</a>>= wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div = class=3D"">Is anyone publishing on arXiv at the moment ? It seems that = to publish there they rely on a web of trust.<br class=3D""><br = class=3D"">There is an Audio and Speech section of arXiv which would = suit our community.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">thanks<br class=3D""><br = class=3D"">Matt<br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br = class=3D""><div class=3D""> <div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: = 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D"">--<br class=3D"">Jonathan Z. Simon (he/him)</div><div = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D"">University of Maryland<br class=3D"">Dept. of Electrical = & Computer Engineering / Dept. of Biology / Institute for = Systems Research<br class=3D"">8223 Paint Branch Dr.<br class=3D"">College= Park, MD 20742 USA<br class=3D"">Office: 1-301-405-3645, Lab: = 1-301-405-9604, Fax: 1-301-314-9281<br class=3D""><a = href=3D"http://www.isr.umd.edu/Labs/CSSL/simonlab/" = class=3D"">http://www.isr.umd.edu/Labs/CSSL/simonlab/</a><br = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></div> </div> <br class=3D""></div></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_13FF7B6A-25F9-4D76-A4CC-6C0308C0ECB8--