Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] preprints, community journals, and publishers From: "Wasmann, Jan-Willem" <Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 15:13:55 +0000--_000_AM9PR09MB52038707C2A51CFF57201CFADF3C9AM9PR09MB5203eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, Let's put a fork in this discussion? This split adds published, while the r= esponse from Leonardo continues the carbon footprint discussion. I should h= ave started multiple threads in the first place... Hi Rebecca, This peer community in (PCI) looks like a very interesting platform! Maybe = we should start with those interested a new auditory/computational audiolog= y PCI? https://peercommunityin.org/2019/05/21/steps-in-the-creation-of-a-new-pci/ Other thematic PCI are found here https://peercommunityin.org/current-pcis/ btw Given the share prices of Wolters/Kluwers and Elsevier, publishing your= own work as a community could save a lot of costs. We entertained the idea= of launching a computational audiology special issue as spin-off from VCCA= 2022 but didn't do so in the end. For now, our suggestion is to add [comput= ational audiology] as keyword to your publication. Cheers, JW ________________________________ Van: rebecca schaefer <rebecca.schaefer@xxxxxxxx> Verzonden: maandag 7 november 2022 10:04 Aan: Wasmann, Jan-Willem <Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx> CC: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> Onderwerp: Re: preprints, community journals, and the carbon footprint of h= earing healthcare U ontvangt niet vaak e-mail van rebecca.schaefer@xxxxxxxx Meer informatie= over waarom dit belangrijk is<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentificatio= n> Hello Jan-Willem and others, One more platform I think deserves a shoutout in this list is https://peerc= ommunityin.org/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps= %3A%2F%2Fpeercommunityin.org%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radbo= udumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a1= 57f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMD= AiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DJz= QD0cKOjz00b0nZSOgqCaGn%2Fr9aVWtXfSJ92pqJaYY%3D&reserved=3D0> , where variou= s communities can make their own community that peer-reviews preprints and = cuts out the journal completely, if so desired. Once a preprint is 'recomme= nded', it can stay on the platform, or if you do need to publish in a journ= al for your metrics, publications in some fields have already committed to = publishing (or considering fast-tracking) papers that have gone through thi= s process ('PCI-friendly journals'). So this may be an option for a communi= ty-driven journal, but with links to commercial publishers. Best wishes (en groeten), Rebecca On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 6:49 AM Wasmann, Jan-Willem <Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx= oudumc.nl<mailto:Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: Dear Raul, goede morgen Alejandro and Bill, Thank you for sharing these insights. Raul you shared a number of platforms that are new to me. Alejandro, it helps a lot that you shared your strategy and the different g= oals that you chase per platform. I like the GitHub integration of Zenodo. = I will digest this to revise my publishing strategy and will share it later= here if people are interested. Further suggestions are still welcome. Bill shared some insights regarding the carbon footprint of chip design, re= -use of medical devices and waste. Meanwhile, our little article/blog appeared here. We got excellent support = from the editors by the way from the Hearing Tracker and were glad we were = able to publish it before the COP27 started. https://www.hearingtracker.com/news/carbon-footprint-of-hearing-healthcare<= https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.hea= ringtracker.com%2Fnews%2Fcarbon-footprint-of-hearing-healthcare&data=3D05%7= C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76= %7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%= 7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M= n0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DwRA1THNBh4teWXrUqnPkIxETiRO7ql0b6QsGqB5dUGo%3= D&reserved=3D0> [https://a.storyblok.com/f/45415/1200x675/c1db8bc00d/earth-and-carbon-footp= rint-hearing-aid-industry_1200x675.jpg]<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.= outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.hearingtracker.com%2Fnews%2Fcarbon-foo= tprint-of-hearing-healthcare&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudu= mc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f= %7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiL= CJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DwRA1T= HNBh4teWXrUqnPkIxETiRO7ql0b6QsGqB5dUGo%3D&reserved=3D0> The Carbon Footprint of Hearing Healthcare and How to Reduce It<https://eur= 02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.hearingtracker= .com%2Fnews%2Fcarbon-footprint-of-hearing-healthcare&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-W= illem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69= 471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb= 3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300= 0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DwRA1THNBh4teWXrUqnPkIxETiRO7ql0b6QsGqB5dUGo%3D&reserved= =3D0> The global carbon footprint of medicine is about 5% of global CO 2 emission= s. 1-3 This is quite a chunk of our carbon budget to stay within 1.5=B0 C (= 2.7=B0F) of global warming, especially in light that many people globally h= ave only limited access to healthcare. For that reason, countries have pled= ged to decrease the carbon footprint of their healthcare systems. www.hearingtracker.com<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= =3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.hearingtracker.com%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasma= nn%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d8= 7025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoi= MC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&= sdata=3D5Q%2BUrKbkcIym%2Bo92zUR49S48WKwyvfsahA0Cp4mEfoE%3D&reserved=3D0> Cheers, en bedankt! Jan-Willem ________________________________ Van: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<m= ailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx>> namens Raul Sanchez <000001b89f1f4a81-dmar= c-request@xxxxxxxx<mailto:000001b89f1f4a81-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx= L.CA>> Verzonden: zaterdag 5 november 2022 14:30 Aan: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= STS.MCGILL.CA<mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx>> Onderwerp: Re: [AUDITORY] preprints, community journals, and the carbon foo= tprint of hearing healthcare U ontvangt niet vaak e-mail van 000001b89f1f4a81-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx= .ca<mailto:000001b89f1f4a81-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx>. Meer informatie= over waarom dit belangrijk is<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentificatio= n> Hi Alejandro and Jan-Willem I absolutely agree with the uses of each platforms. Very helpful insights i= ndeed! For pre-registration I would add https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/<https://eu= r02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.clinicaltrial= s.gov%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc= 4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087= 425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBT= iI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DUu9oubMEX69J1URP7kHeLRSct= YIMZPDzJEnLf22cbRs%3D&reserved=3D0> and a quite interesting platform named:= https://aspredicted.org/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?u= rl=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Faspredicted.org%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%4= 0radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025= e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4w= LjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdat= a=3DnEQ2fYqrHMXNEiJuZpWx4AYI1peresnKC8YRGeix1tU%3D&reserved=3D0> Also for data sharing, some journals allow to include data directly during = the submission in platforms such as https://figshare.com/<https://eur02.saf= elinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ffigshare.com%2F&data=3D0= 5%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1= c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnkno= wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVC= I6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DkOKazRaPKhfAew0ec5k2v3mioZJeVQVFYSf97bvCUa= k%3D&reserved=3D0>. One important aspect about preprints that we did not touch upon is =93when= =94 you can submit a preprint and not jeopardize your peer-review publicati= on. There are journals that only allow preprints before the submission to t= he journal (e.g. Alejandro could not upload a new version after acceptance = in those). The best way to know about it is with the Sherpa/Romeo: https:/= /v2.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= =3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fv2.sherpa.ac.uk%2Fromeo%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Was= mann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48= d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIj= oiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7= C&sdata=3D%2F97YKDzt%2BnIMHuG5uicbnPLHEALZEqUMbc6HMCgVEko%3D&reserved=3D0> There, you can see whether you can use preprints, and whether you can post = your accepted or copyedited version in your website or institutional reposi= tory. Best wishes Raul Sanchez-Lopez From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<= mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx>> On Behalf Of Alejandro Osses Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2022 06.02 To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] preprints, community journals, and the carbon footp= rint of hearing healthcare Hoi Jan-Willem, These are very interesting questions. I just read Ra=FAl's answers with his= clarifications about these new ""publishing schemes", so my answer here is= based on my own experience about some of the platforms you mentioned (this= means that I am not answering directly to your questions). You mentioned BioRxiv, ArXiv, OSF, and Zenodo. I happened to have used all = these platforms and I actually use them for different purposes. * BioRxiv and ArXiv I use them to host preprints. I use BioRxiv if my p= aper contains collected behavioural data (human data from perceptual studie= s in my case), whereas I use ArXiv when I only use computational simulation= s as main component of my study. For both cases, I use them as a quick way = to generate the permanent identifier while I sumit the papers to a peer-rev= iewed journal. (Some of my examples: One of my papers from BioRxiv<https://= eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.biorxiv.org= %2Fcontent%2F10.1101%2F2020.03.13.984542v1&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasm= ann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d= 87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjo= iMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C= &sdata=3DADru5G%2FLA3aNbUJ%2BWHJcXwrZEVcTPm2yVfQqKdB2Zpc%3D&reserved=3D0>; = one of my ArXiv papers that has many versions<https://eur02.safelinks.prote= ction.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fabs%2F2107.01753&data=3D= 05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f= 1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnkn= own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXV= CI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3Dk6BoeqNRkLyHjQejCGwEZ4XNPHHG8cLUkqst12cdu= IA%3D&reserved=3D0>) * OSF: I am using it now for my first pre-registered project. The idea = is to pre design your study and clearly state your hypothesis before you ru= n the actual study, in a way that if you get non-significant results or if = you reject some of your hypotheses you still pulish your study. This is a w= ay to avoid p-hacking. Of course OSF provides a permanent identifier for yo= ur project (I didn't realise it was a doi number), but my goal here is to c= ite the pre-registered document from OSF once my paper is finished and publ= ished (My current OSF project, I think is still embargoed: https://osf.io/4= ju3f/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fo= sf.io%2F4ju3f%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad= 083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C6= 38034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luM= zIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D1UdXjW5eZSQWvyPix= gIsSyGeFMDCfLbKkFlkAOF5rBY%3D&reserved=3D0>) * Zenodo: I use it to host all binary data, meaning WAV files or any ot= her data that I cannot store using TXT files and codes from Python or MATLA= B and that are related to my study. Complementary to that, I linked Zenodo = to my Github, so that my "main codes" get tracked and obtain a doi number e= very time I make a new release of my software codes. This way "Zenodo Git"= and "Zenodo data" contain all the data I need to reproduce my paper data (= Zenodo linked to one of my Github MATLAB toolboxes<https://eur02.safelinks.= protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecord%2F6530154%2= 3.Y2X6zr7MJpg&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083= e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C6380= 34087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIi= LCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DfL3VFglkfj%2Fmmey1zj= wy%2BVH63E1FLH6GMime6zDJ%2BXE%3D&reserved=3D0>; Zenodo containing just bina= ry data for one of my studies<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.co= m/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecord%2F5483835%23.Y2X7XL7MJpg&data=3D= 05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f= 1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnkn= own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXV= CI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DxYfAcBLMjalpD%2B9hu9SB6zUOVx25fmNggTpmRR9= IpGk%3D&reserved=3D0>-the study where those data were used/cited is here<ht= tps://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fhal.archi= ves-ouvertes.fr%2Fhal-03345050v1&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radb= oudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a= 157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM= DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DC= 0NaS4djCaxcIufn6eSbl54XHz3qS6prIfflJqQn76A%3D&reserved=3D0>) I have used these platforms without peer review, but the idea is for me, to= always publish in a peer review journal soon after. My own papers have suf= fered big transformations during a couple of reviews. Therefore, I found it= somehow a "risk" that my first preprint versions are circulating. My worka= round is that, once a paper is published, I make a new final version of the= preprint, so that people who will download my preprint in the future will = not only see the link to the published paper (an automatic option from BioR= xiv and ArXiv), but if the press "download" they will get the most recent p= reprint version of the paper. Of course not every person sticks to these rules very strictly, so it can w= ell be that you run into papers that never got through a peer review (and a= re not planning to). To this extent BioRxiv and ArXiv may not be the best f= or relying 100% on what is hosted there. I hope the insights here are useful :) Success... Groetjes, Alejandro Op vr 4 nov. 2022 om 05:04 schreef Wasmann, Jan-Willem <Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx= radboudumc.nl<mailto:Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx>>: Dear list, Via this thread, I=92d like to touch upon preprints, community journals, an= d the carbon footprint of hearing healthcare. If you are in a hurry, please= skip this message TLDR. Otherwise, it would be great to tap into your coll= ective wisdom. In recent years, preprints have become increasingly popular to increase ope= n access. Some preprints get cited a lot (e.g., https://www.biorxiv.org/con= tent/10.1101/2021.10.04.463034v2.abstract<https://eur02.safelinks.protectio= n.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.biorxiv.org%2Fcontent%2F10.1101%2F20= 21.10.04.463034v2.abstract&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc= .nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7= C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJ= QIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3De%2Fm5v= 9ffDrx4fzUQVwOD0UG56uNAGEdabStQdLs%2BhM0%3D&reserved=3D0> > 300 times). And= especially in AI, some preprints will probably never get peer-reviewed. A = well-known example is: Saon G, Kurata G, Sercu T, Audhkhasi K, Thomas S, Dimitriadis D, et al. Eng= lish Conversational Telephone Speech Recognition by Humans and Machines. Ar= Xiv170302136 Cs (2017). Available online at: http://arxiv.org/<https://eur0= 2.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2F&data=3D= 05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f= 1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnkn= own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXV= CI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DKjvThG65lo46CG7kUkxWVevGNWE7pr7DzeyZwy8o7= O4%3D&reserved=3D0> abs/1703.02136 There are multiple platforms to use. The most well-known is Biorxiv<https:/= /eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.biorxiv.or= g%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12= a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C6380340874255= 22653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I= k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DmlNz3qiS0TCjW%2FPNeDSolMxUBUN= w4mi6yHM98Pwc%2FFk%3D&reserved=3D0> or Arxiv<https://eur02.safelinks.protec= tion.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Wil= lem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe6947= 1e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d= 8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%= 7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D1UgJMjqfL9k4mvqCxtS1f1ydQEcTdFLsKp4boFzMJqM%3D&reserved=3D= 0>. But also OSF<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp= s%3A%2F%2Fosf.io%2Fpreprints%2F%3Futm_term%3Dopen%2520science%2520framework= %26utm_campaign%3DOSF%2BGeneral%26utm_source%3Dadwords%26utm_medium%3Dppc%2= 6hsa_acc%3D5222345373%26hsa_cam%3D217339509%26hsa_grp%3D36452477753%26hsa_a= d%3D150809658182%26hsa_src%3Dg%26hsa_tgt%3Dkwd-300201585279%26hsa_kw%3Dopen= %2520science%2520framework%26hsa_mt%3Db%26hsa_net%3Dadwords%26hsa_ver%3D3%2= 6gclid%3DEAIaIQobChMIp-_k7sGR-wIVFweLCh2Sbw5YEAAYASAAEgIj7vD_BwE&data=3D05%= 7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c7= 6%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown= %7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6= Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DtLlNsk%2BwyhvohxNE9DwCTGCtj6gX%2Fys6s9NA9LYf= Ack%3D&reserved=3D0> or Zenodo<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.c= om/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecord%2F5600535%23.Y2NxnaSZOUk&data= =3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac= 09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CU= nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLC= JXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DaACOs1n69Qltnek04xLlOe%2FQA7cyCHc9MRF6= BHbiVQ0%3D&reserved=3D0>. I have used OSF since it has a broad scope and al= lows you to upload projects. It provides a preprint DOI, which remains the = same if you update the preprint at a later stage. Also, you can link the DO= I of the final peer-reviewed version of your paper. Zenodo can also be used= for projects (data+paper), but every update will create a new DOI. Q1a How do you regard the status of preprints? Q1b Is it a missed opportunity if one decides not to go for a peer-review p= rocess of a preprint? Another new development is open community-driven peer review procedures. I = found examples in other fields; see below. Q2a Do you know of examples of community-driven peer review in hearing scie= nces? Q2b Can you recommend a community-driven journal? Many scientists have responded to the new transparent consultative peer-rev= iew procedure by eLife (https://elifesciences.org/about/peer-review<https:/= /eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Felifesciences.= org%2Fabout%2Fpeer-review&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.= nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C= 1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQ= IjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3Dv28LpZqC= XLsa1JFtILMBxF%2FH60xDgKdgTy4%2FwzT7Sts%3D&reserved=3D0>). This might be an= exciting venue for those looking for new ways of peer review. However, the= charges amount to $2000. The charges for open access can be enormous (Natu= re $7000?) and a barrier for early career researchers. So far, I have found the following examples of community journal/peer revie= w processes: Pubpeer (The PubPeer Foundation is a California-registered public-benefit c= orporation with 501(c)(3) nonprofit status in the United States. The overar= ching goal of the Foundation is to improve the quality of scientific resear= ch by enabling innovative approaches for community interaction. The bylaws = of the Foundation establish pubpeer.com<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.= outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fpubpeer.com%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.= Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48= c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ= WIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7= C%7C&sdata=3DvRB1GnWLewGeQq33FeAKB1rCTzBOmNl98LaAEEgyZsc%3D&reserved=3D0> a= s a service run for the benefit of its readers and commenters, who create i= ts content. Our current focus is maintaining and developing the PubPeer onl= ine platform for post-publication peer review. https://pubpeer.com/static/a= bout_<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fp= ubpeer.com%2Fstatic%2Fabout_&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudu= mc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f= %7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiL= CJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D0t8%2= BXauAE7XldPDu9%2Fuvb7fUR9f94nEiMW6wFcIrbdY%3D&reserved=3D0>) Here you can find our preprint on that platform https://pubpeer.com/publications/AE2235B5F9F35577B977F87F9834B8<https://eur= 02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fpubpeer.com%2Fpubl= ications%2FAE2235B5F9F35577B977F87F9834B8&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasma= nn%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d8= 7025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoi= MC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&= sdata=3D4MC%2FcoiraA6Gizew9dCvN6YRqyCCdcEIAB94f78w39A%3D&reserved=3D0> It looks like an easy platform to use. It can be used for creating special = issues/collections (see https://pubpeer.com/publications/peeriodicals<https= ://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fpubpeer.com%= 2Fpublications%2Fpeeriodicals&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboud= umc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157= f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAi= LCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DeA%2= FE7yHQfDCpBXT8QdFUGIuBLYq3KHQEKyzKyxo0eEM%3D&reserved=3D0>). At the start, = I had trouble registering using my name/institution. An anonymous account w= as created quickly. Currently, PubPeer is used for post-publication review.= I heard that in other disciplines, Pubpeer is used to flag suspicious publ= ications (read fraud). Another exciting example is ReviewCommons (Review Commons provides authors = with a Refereed Preprint, which includes the authors=92 manuscript, reports= from a single round of peer review and the authors=92 response. These Refe= reed Preprints are transferred on the author=92s behalf to bioRxiv. The mos= t recently-completed Review Commons peer-reviews are listed below, with the= most recently posted reviews at the top. https://www.reviewcommons.org/aut= hors/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fw= ww.reviewcommons.org%2Fauthors%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40rad= boudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9= a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw= MDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D= mGe1cZvwBVVoU6bB%2FnuD37XEiAED8c%2FgtqYKGDg9L3M%3D&reserved=3D0>) Unfortunately, auditory sciences and audiology are not within the scope of = the peer-review initiative. The last example I know of is NBDT (NBDT is a community journal. If your ha= ndling editor sees it as in-scope it is appropriate. Editors are instructed= to only handle papers that they consider running as a journal club paper f= or their own lab https://nbdt.scholasticahq.com/for-authors<https://eur02.s= afelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fnbdt.scholasticahq.com= %2Ffor-authors&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad08= 3e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638= 034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzI= iLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DQ6thRxtRpwhQuFckPRW= JQm%2F9%2FXzhOgYNTpsJ9NlXc0Y%3D&reserved=3D0>). It=92s interesting to see t= heir procedures, including =93Can you propose reviewers? Short answer: no. = Long answer: we did our own statistical analysis on a private dataset and h= ave concluded that it produces huge undesirable biases without leading to b= etter reviews.=94 The Carbon Footprint of Hearing Healthcare With Jan de Laat, I have just written a perspective paper/blog about the Ca= rbon Footprint of Hearing Healthcare (see version 2, Preprint DOI 10.31219/= osf.io/3sj5u<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A= %2F%2Fdoi.org%2F10.31219%2Fosf.io%2F3sj5u&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasma= nn%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d8= 7025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoi= MC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&= sdata=3DHHefyXLiVnj5pEXMRZYxAXNeaq1fDU%2BGoKqjkno4EgE%3D&reserved=3D0>). Th= e hearing tracker will publish the content today/tomorrow as a blog. So far= , we have extracted information from ESG reports<https://eur02.safelinks.pr= otection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.pwc.com%2Fsk%2Fen%2Fenvironme= ntal-social-and-corporate-governance-esg%2Fesg-reporting.html&data=3D05%7C0= 1%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7= Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7C= TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0= %3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D4Gqm43jdYQhVzSWSxUGkeIVn4b1rrXMGaIz7QNmMKKU%3D&= reserved=3D0> and our contacts within the hearing healthcare industry. Idea= lly, we would like to organize a community-driven review process to collect= comments from engineers, industry, sustainability officers, authors from E= SG reports, and scientists. Q3a What would be a suitable platform to organize and publish a community-d= riven review process of a perspective paper about carbon footprint in heari= ng healthcare? Another ambition could be to create a carbon footprint tracker of hearing h= ealthcare by annually updating table 1 from the preprint, including an asse= ssment of whether climate ambitions by industry were updated and achieved. Q3b What would be a suitable approach to annually monitor the carbon footpr= int of the hearing healthcare industry? (Maybe not peer-reviewed?) Please let me know what you think is the best community journal for auditor= y sciences. Don't hesitate to let us know if you believe opinion pieces sho= uldn=92t get into the review process. For me publishing this perspective pa= per is a low-risk experiment. If it goes well, I will consider submitting a= n original research manuscript. Thank you for your time. I am looking forward to your responses and advice. Best regards, Jan-Willem Wasmann De informatie in dit bericht is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. = Aan dit bericht en de bijlagen kunnen geen rechten worden ontleend. 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Radboud university medical center is registered with the Dutch Chamber of= Commerce trade register with number 80262783. --_000_AM9PR09MB52038707C2A51CFF57201CFADF3C9AM9PR09MB5203eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof"> <span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !importan= t" class=3D"ContentPasted2">Dear all,</span></div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof"> <span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !importan= t" class=3D"ContentPasted2">Let's put a fork in this discussion? This split= adds published, while the response from Leonardo continues the carbon foot= print discussion. I should have started multiple threads in the first place...</span><br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof"> Hi Rebecca,</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof"> This peer community in (PCI) looks like a very interesting platform! Maybe = we should start with those interested a new auditory/computational audiolog= y PCI?</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof ContentPasted0"> <a href=3D"https://peercommunityin.org/2019/05/21/steps-in-the-creation-of-= a-new-pci/" id=3D"LPlnk558296">https://peercommunityin.org/2019/05/21/steps= -in-the-creation-of-a-new-pci/</a><br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof ContentPasted0"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof ContentPasted0"> Other thematic PCI are found here</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class= =3D"elementToProof ContentPasted0 ContentPasted1"> <a href=3D"https://peercommunityin.org/current-pcis/" id=3D"LPlnk530291">ht= tps://peercommunityin.org/current-pcis/</a><br> </div> <div id=3D"signature_bookmark" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvet= ica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rg= b(255, 255, 255);"> <br> </div> <div id=3D"signature_bookmark" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvet= ica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rg= b(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"elementToProof"> </div> <div id=3D"signature_bookmark" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvet= ica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rg= b(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div id=3D"signature_bookmark" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvet= ica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rg= b(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"elementToProof"> btw Given the share prices of Wolters/Kluwers and Elsevier, publishing your= own work as a community could save a lot of costs. We entertained the idea= of launching a computational audiology special issue as spin-off from VCCA= 2022 but didn't do so in the end. For now, our suggestion is to add [computational audiology] as keyword to = your publication.</div> <div id=3D"signature_bookmark" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvet= ica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rg= b(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div id=3D"signature_bookmark" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvet= ica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rg= b(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"elementToProof"> Cheers,</div> <div id=3D"signature_bookmark" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvet= ica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rg= b(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"elementToProof"> JW</div> <div id=3D"appendonsend"></div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" co= lor=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>Van:</b> rebecca schaefer <r= ebecca.schaefer@xxxxxxxx><br> <b>Verzonden:</b> maandag 7 november 2022 10:04<br> <b>Aan:</b> Wasmann, Jan-Willem <Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx><br= > <b>CC:</b> AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx><br> <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: preprints, community journals, and the carbon footpri= nt of hearing healthcare</font> <div> </div> </div> <div> <table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"100%" alig= n=3D"left" style=3D"border:0; display:table; width:100%; table-layout:fixed= ; border-collapse:seperate; float:none"> <tbody style=3D"display:block"> <tr> <td valign=3D"middle" width=3D"1px" bgcolor=3D"#A6A6A6" cellpadding=3D"7px = 2px 7px 2px" style=3D"padding:7px 2px 7px 2px; background-color:#A6A6A6"> </td> <td valign=3D"middle" width=3D"100%" bgcolor=3D"#EAEAEA" cellpadding=3D"7px= 5px 7px 15px" color=3D"#212121" style=3D"width:100%; background-color:#EAE= AEA; padding:7px 5px 7px 15px; font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,Segoe UI,Sego= e WP,Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:12px; font-weight:normal; color:#21= 2121; text-align:left; word-wrap:break-word"> <div>U ontvangt niet vaak e-mail van rebecca.schaefer@xxxxxxxx <a href=3D= "https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable"= > Meer informatie over waarom dit belangrijk is</a></div> </td> <td valign=3D"middle" align=3D"left" width=3D"75px" bgcolor=3D"#EAEAEA" cel= lpadding=3D"7px 5px 7px 5px" color=3D"#212121" style=3D"width:75px; backgro= und-color:#EAEAEA; padding:7px 5px 7px 5px; font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,= Segoe UI,Segoe WP,Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:12px; font-weight:norm= al; color:#212121; text-align:left; word-wrap:break-word"> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr">Hello Jan-Willem and others, <div><br> </div> <div>One more platform I think deserves a shoutout in this list is <a = href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2= Fpeercommunityin.org%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudum= c.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%= 7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLC= JQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DJz= QD0cKOjz00b0nZSOgqCaGn%2Fr9aVWtXfSJ92pqJaYY%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth= =3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://peercommunityin.org/" shash=3D"GlM2WA5= dykYu676qnv+OAc2o+vWo2lfw9i2RvcrSm373fp4k7ucs+4u9oFk+91+lCmxUXnLSsUQ2QIJVcH= oHV3r2KnKg5Z8cn6wX8UbqaPszCEMgRJEFeb2tA112v0FBPsjsF0s45MfYHRgg7wWoiV65/zZcq= WvV9gr2GN5YYb8=3D"> https://peercommunityin.org/</a> , where various communities can make their= own community that peer-reviews preprints and cuts out the journal complet= ely, if so desired. Once a preprint is 'recommended', it can stay on t= he platform, or if you do need to publish in a journal for your metrics, publications in some fields have already co= mmitted to publishing (or considering fast-tracking) papers that have gone = through this process ('PCI-friendly journals'). So this may be an option fo= r a community-driven journal, but with links to commercial publishers.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Best wishes (en groeten), </div> <div>Rebecca</div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> </div> <br> <div class=3D"x_gmail_quote"> <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 6:49 AM Wasm= ann, Jan-Willem <<a href=3D"mailto:Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx" dat= a-auth=3D"NotApplicable">Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br= > </div> <blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; bord= er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex"> <div class=3D"x_msg6624091313836045768"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Dear Raul, goede morgen Alejandro and Bill,</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Thank you for sharing these insights. </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Raul you shared a number of platforms that are new to me. </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Alejandro, it helps a lot that you shared your strategy and the different g= oals that you chase per platform. I like the GitHub integration of Zenodo.&= nbsp;<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,s= ans-serif; font-size:12pt">I will digest this to revise my publishing strategy and will share it later here if peop= le are interested. Further suggestions are still welcome.</span></div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt; margin:0px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255= )">Bill shared some insights regarding the carbon footprint of chip design,= re-use of medical devices and waste.</span><br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Meanwhile, our little article/blog appeared here. 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For that reason, countries have pledged to decrease the carbon footprint o= f their healthcare systems.</div> <div id=3D"x_m_-5283733055643781528LPMetadata999585" style=3D"font-size:14p= x; font-weight:400; color:rgb(166,166,166); font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,= "Segoe UI","Segoe WP",Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif"> <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F= %2Fwww.hearingtracker.com%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radb= oudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a= 157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM= DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata= =3D5Q%2BUrKbkcIym%2Bo92zUR49S48WKwyvfsahA0Cp4mEfoE%3D&reserved=3D0" dat= a-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"http://www.hearingtracker.com/" shash=3D= "J0x6Qs1eR6x/IhmX6DU9THJkmAYFm84/2qnm4wa4et1xwuhCWUraBEoWkr0g6flr2fLBQoNdHI= m8wQya6DKUGsRVSDRyLKYdLOuP1ED21LR3vHkVmXCxOmmbhSM6OI3FZ5EZ/citS7f4evxc7deQ4= yKm7+IvZ2f3hQMrYJtX6zE=3D">www.hearingtracker.com</a></div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> <br> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Cheers, en bedankt!</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Jan-Willem</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p= t; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt; margin:0px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255= )"></span><br> </div> <div id=3D"x_m_-5283733055643781528appendonsend"></div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%"> <div id=3D"x_m_-5283733055643781528divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D= "Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>Van:</b= > AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <<a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY= @xxxxxxxx" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a>&= gt; namens Raul Sanchez <<a href=3D"mailto:000001b89f1f4a81-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx= ISTS.MCGILL.CA" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable">000001b89f1f4a81-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx= LISTS.MCGILL.CA</a>><br> <b>Verzonden:</b> zaterdag 5 november 2022 14:30<br> <b>Aan:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx" data-auth=3D"NotApp= licable">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= MCGILL.CA" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [AUDITORY] preprints, community journals, and the car= bon footprint of hearing healthcare</font> <div> </div> </div> <div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D""> <table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"100%" alig= n=3D"left" style=3D"border:0px; display:table; width:100%; table-layout:fix= ed; float:none"> <tbody style=3D"display:block"> <tr> <td valign=3D"middle" width=3D"1px" bgcolor=3D"#A6A6A6" cellpadding=3D"7px = 2px 7px 2px" style=3D"padding:7px 2px; background-color:rgb(166,166,166)"> </td> <td valign=3D"middle" width=3D"100%" bgcolor=3D"#EAEAEA" cellpadding=3D"7px= 5px 7px 15px" color=3D"#212121" style=3D"width:100%; background-color:rgb(= 234,234,234); padding:7px 5px 7px 15px; font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,&quo= t;Segoe UI","Segoe WP",Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:12= px; font-weight:normal; color:rgb(33,33,33); text-align:left"> <div>U ontvangt niet vaak e-mail van <a href=3D"mailto:000001b89f1f4a81-dma= rc-request@xxxxxxxx" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable"> 000001b89f1f4a81-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx</a>. <a href=3D"https://aka.= ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable"> Meer informatie over waarom dit belangrijk is</a></div> </td> <td valign=3D"middle" align=3D"left" width=3D"75px" bgcolor=3D"#EAEAEA" cel= lpadding=3D"7px 5px 7px 5px" color=3D"#212121" style=3D"width:75px; backgro= und-color:rgb(234,234,234); padding:7px 5px; font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal= ,"Segoe UI","Segoe WP",Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif; font-si= ze:12px; font-weight:normal; color:rgb(33,33,33); text-align:left"> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div> <div> <p>Hi Alejandro and Jan-Willem</p> <p> </p> <p>I absolutely agree with the uses of each platforms. Very helpful insight= s indeed!</p> <p> </p> <p>For pre-registration I would add <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.prot= ection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.clinicaltrials.gov%2F&data= =3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac= 09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CU= nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLC= JXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DUu9oubMEX69J1URP7kHeLRSctYIMZPDzJE= nLf22cbRs%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https:= //www.clinicaltrials.gov/" shash=3D"keq+96HQ3cV0TWxMJjg1CfgK3KY6lhXoH1oiMj1= v7o90JLc4Tu4gQtRwFRC3qKXh3WehGr1AqNaB6S60AUV2bZ5nEbTh0DTOBrW/0bLed3uo1ol+fG= y21BuOMhTPkQk25Mitxi1AcFCHwQG0F8euEfgokcIk/vFD88SMH3Nfv9Y=3D"> https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/</a> and a quite interesting platform named:= <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%= 2F%2Faspredicted.org%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudum= c.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%= 7C1%7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLC= JQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DnE= Q2fYqrHMXNEiJuZpWx4AYI1peresnKC8YRGeix1tU%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D= "Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://aspredicted.org/" shash=3D"xCSgCPQHHxNg24= wSt2dFLRMCV0PnCa2vCvrDAMb2Z2NQovPy/1mWmzLRfJVgtMyIkCdodw1nEbRDxZ2ARqc0yILiQ= DpUam8fznGIPOM9jvCsXk9nEn75SXB4fw9UbpEMkSb4IzXdpAz0zUuKjFc92/YLU1JV1jmxw0AG= 79dPts4=3D"> https://aspredicted.org/</a></p> <p>Also for data sharing, some journals allow to include data directly duri= ng the submission in platforms such as <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Ffigshare.com%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl= %7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%= 7C0%7C638034087425366444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj= oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DkOKazR= aPKhfAew0ec5k2v3mioZJeVQVFYSf97bvCUak%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Ver= ified" originalsrc=3D"https://figshare.com/" shash=3D"kBN9UpOwksWsHZxaLCBFm= WyMjwaLqozeFErg81L3NXs3eTwDFGs8tOHSQVThPfiouHXK+TJ9VI5tBI2yVWxE/LJFZ7Bht0ws= 4cHQ65LJXHfdpb7/ok5OlUgwrT/fJhEa/zrp52iKytbwe6XzXC/4yr0KmH+7G15+ilIeGHddEL8= =3D"> https://figshare.com/</a>.</p> <p> </p> <p>One important aspect about preprints that we did not touch upon is =93wh= en=94 you can submit a preprint and not jeopardize your peer-review publica= tion. There are journals that only allow preprints before the submission to= the journal (e.g. Alejandro could not upload a new version after acceptance in those). The best way to know abou= t it is with the Sherpa/Romeo: <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.pro= tection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fv2.sherpa.ac.uk%2Fromeo%2F&dat= a=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208da= c09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7C= Unknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL= CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D%2F97YKDzt%2BnIMHuG5uicbnPLHEALZE= qUMbc6HMCgVEko%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"h= ttps://v2.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/" shash=3D"ldpSEP09h/H8LgIADm5EZYMmAWcAsv58K3w= pXig+d1iZRmZe3ea+VSKaYlHGLtBfNS0xWiqodpLMrc8QBos+xJTum8d5QVh4ZjtocyFwCRpzQa= 87QXFv5jCiopkKhsuIoSWaawD4qDpZRMIzVu+T5BS/t6m7ta2M4Dby2mZQjs4=3D">https://v= 2.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/</a></p> <p>There, you can see whether you can use preprints, and whether you can po= st your accepted or copyedited version in your website or institutional rep= ository.</p> <p> </p> <p>Best wishes</p> <p> </p> <p>Raul Sanchez-Lopez</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <div style=3D"border-right:none; border-bottom:none; border-left:none; bord= er-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225); padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"> <p><b>From:</b> AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <<a href=3D"m= ailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= MCGILL.CA</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alejandro Osses<br> <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 5 November 2022 06.02<br> <b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx" data-auth=3D"NotAppl= icable">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AUDITORY] preprints, community journals, and the carbo= n footprint of hearing healthcare</p> </div> <p> </p> <div> <div> <p>Hoi Jan-Willem,</p> </div> <div> <p> </p> </div> <div> <p>These are very interesting questions. I just read Ra=FAl's answers with = his clarifications about these new ""publishing schemes", so= my answer here is based on my own experience about some of the platforms y= ou mentioned (this means that I am not answering directly to your questions).</p> </div> <div> <p> </p> </div> <div> <p>You mentioned BioRxiv, ArXiv, OSF, and Zenodo. I happened to have used a= ll these platforms and I actually use them for different purposes.</p> </div> <div> <ul type=3D"disc"> <li>BioRxiv and ArXiv I use them to host preprints. I use BioRxiv if my pap= er contains collected behavioural data (human data from perceptual studies = in my case), whereas I use ArXiv when I only use computational simulations = as main component of my study. For both cases, I use them as a quick way to generate the permanent identifier= while I sumit the papers to a peer-reviewed journal. (Some of my examples:= One of my papers from <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Fwww.biorxiv.org%2Fcontent%2F10.1101%2F2020.03.13.984542v1&data=3D05= %7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c= 76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknow= n%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI= 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DADru5G%2FLA3aNbUJ%2BWHJcXwrZEVcTPm2yVfQ= qKdB2Zpc%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https:/= /www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.13.984542v1" shash=3D"LauVzEjhxsUf= JTkq5TL56F63NzkiNZZU8Sn9ZdaYRMizWYMUpK5+ShI94c8qtE6SleMfLCTKsYos6tcGxlv8ZhD= 6BNzm3lZqbFQxK1SD5inR0/ggx1kOCtJDrMMzP81X8+NZnkWat3jj9/OaJCL3NuTSiF5yU4SGWS= 9/leWT/Tg=3D"> BioRxiv</a>; one of my <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outloo= k.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fabs%2F2107.01753&data=3D05%7C01%= 7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb= 208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTW= FpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3= D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3Dk6BoeqNRkLyHjQejCGwEZ4XNPHHG8cLUkqst12cduIA%3= D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://arxiv.org= /abs/2107.01753" shash=3D"lmhNCKpdIOGBlswVvUrmX/6MXd+2gB9eufSfRDbe2OLFBMzlQ= kU0dSFNaIU5DNw4Zz3PxnFPAn5n+I21Q1eUQ/DXp77v4Hk6Muw5dn/ZX66EgL4mbUdwqnBbk0bU= o8ZlQF/53dlY+2QUvd3UjukoExzcPBmWwh8bihqrQkrzs6I=3D"> ArXiv papers that has many versions</a>)</li><li>OSF: I am using it now for= my first pre-registered project. The idea is to pre design your study and = clearly state your hypothesis before you run the actual study, in a way tha= t if you get non-significant results or if you reject some of your hypothes= es you still pulish your study. This is a way to avoid p-hacking. Of course O= SF provides a permanent identifier for your project (I didn't realise it wa= s a doi number), but my goal here is to cite the pre-registered document fr= om OSF once my paper is finished and published (My current OSF project, I think is still embargoed: <a href= =3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fosf= .io%2F4ju3f%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2c= ad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7= C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l= uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D1UdXjW5eZSQ= WvyPixgIsSyGeFMDCfLbKkFlkAOF5rBY%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified= " originalsrc=3D"https://osf.io/4ju3f/" shash=3D"x/KbjyU9YU8Q86nkqqLQb4rsJx= g6kPzLmbVEahQcy6k8krNLZufm+9YQcf2VgdVYBNcnsj/nYt71OfGw1NKAqc4ckSLZt34ovGdc8= +8bFP4N8hSSXoNzQJq6cmbemndjUBoVUVzjEI/ERE7ACsRq1PJJLoN/7wWfvhbQtMJWl/Q=3D"> https://osf.io/4ju3f/</a>)</li><li>Zenodo: I use it to host all binary data= , meaning WAV files or any other data that I cannot store using TXT files a= nd codes from Python or MATLAB and that are related to my study. Complement= ary to that, I linked Zenodo to my Github, so that my "main codes"= ; get tracked and obtain a doi number every time I make a new release = of my software codes. This way "Zenodo Git" and "Zenodo data= " contain all the data I need to reproduce my paper data (Zenodo linke= d to one of my <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecord%2F6530154%23.Y2X6zr7MJpg&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-W= illem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69= 471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb= 3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300= 0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DfL3VFglkfj%2Fmmey1zjwy%2BVH63E1FLH6GMime6zDJ%2BXE%3D= &reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://zenodo.org= /record/6530154#.Y2X6zr7MJpg" shash=3D"bOAEWBn3AjBWng/mhizzAzNO4JqbIMit9cgJ= hGZAFucztVvD5ruKTNwg1CotjFJr9/K/d4ElmthoG9M4uAy9SfgEGm1qecpIF57Cuqh/35P8/ke= HApp8Kj4Pa7Bu6+ytK3zg2VLYx4qe1YL5rpLDjoEwLzCXasfnjw0I/4ygFaI=3D"> Github MATLAB toolboxes</a>; Zenodo containing just <a href=3D"https://eur0= 2.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecord= %2F5483835%23.Y2X7XL7MJpg&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboud= umc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157= f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAi= LCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D= xYfAcBLMjalpD%2B9hu9SB6zUOVx25fmNggTpmRR9IpGk%3D&reserved=3D0" data-aut= h=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://zenodo.org/record/5483835#.Y2X7XL7MJp= g" shash=3D"VrRT+gxaWyBn+eKGwZ4ZNVm+QcovVd9CRBcj7L9cNv+8LxQQGA+Bq+uZn7GrU1x= 9rHj0cmy8TZ+vf3K8EIDQ684UybS/UojgtPGWWo7lRhjPMjXvX5u0/0rsztFNKL72nWStsXGI0R= hIAFUh/nLK9FymdlxKDDxrKFibUTZFKaA=3D"> binary data for one of my studies</a>-the study where those data were used/= cited is <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Fhal.archives-ouvertes.fr%2Fhal-03345050v1&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Will= em.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471= e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8= eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7= C%7C%7C&sdata=3DC0NaS4djCaxcIufn6eSbl54XHz3qS6prIfflJqQn76A%3D&rese= rved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://hal.archives-ouvert= es.fr/hal-03345050v1" shash=3D"Z0PbOdMfbO+TAD7JDrmJpARWxTH9l2Jv6BzweHXXXSTQ= FVbWhRYXFc44+QELErbZuVzjTLIWEMMd2M5NzfB4MIQ6Q9V81li3Ll4HTxOuzUxyS2VLOqb2cqf= bN+dgLVmXB9AzpeDa/FjtUs5p/6zVIxpWkSquK5gyF4FEWJGZoL0=3D"> here</a>)</li></ul> <div> <p>I have used these platforms without peer review, but the idea is for me,= to always publish in a peer review journal soon after. My own papers have = suffered big transformations during a couple of reviews. Therefore, I found= it somehow a "risk" that my first preprint versions are circulating. My workaround is that, once a paper is = published, I make a new final version of the preprint, so that people who w= ill download my preprint in the future will not only see the link to the pu= blished paper (an automatic option from BioRxiv and ArXiv), but if the press "download" they will g= et the most recent preprint version of the paper.</p> </div> <div> <p> </p> </div> <div> <p>Of course not every person sticks to these rules very strictly, so it ca= n well be that you run into papers that never got through a peer review (an= d are not planning to). To this extent BioRxiv and ArXiv may not be the bes= t for relying 100% on what is hosted there. </p> </div> <div> <p> </p> </div> <div> <p>I hope the insights here are useful :)</p> </div> <div> <p> </p> </div> <div> <p>Success...</p> </div> <div> <p>Groetjes,</p> </div> <div> <p>Alejandro</p> </div> </div> </div> <p> </p> <div> <div> <p>Op vr 4 nov. 2022 om 05:04 schreef Wasmann, Jan-Willem <<a href=3D"ma= ilto:Jan-Willem.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable">Jan-Will= em.Wasmann@xxxxxxxx</a>>:</p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"border-top:none; border-right:none; border-bottom:none= ; border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204); padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-l= eft:4.8pt; margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> <div> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">D= ear list, </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">V= ia this thread, I=92d like to touch upon preprints, community journals, and= the carbon footprint of hearing healthcare. If you are in a hurry, please = skip this message TLDR. Otherwise, it would be great to tap into your collective wisdom. </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">I= n recent years, preprints have become increasingly popular to increase open= access. Some preprints get cited a lot (e.g., <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Fwww.biorxiv.org%2Fcontent%2F10.1101%2F2021.10.04.463034v2.abstract&= data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a5120= 8dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653= %7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haW= wiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3De%2Fm5v9ffDrx4fzUQVwOD0UG56uNA= GEdabStQdLs%2BhM0%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc= =3D"https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.04.463034v2.abstract" s= hash=3D"mDeSxezbHkYBg+49q0ps1sjPVAaTI8jT4fawKkpa21T//OSOMweeCDOOD2/Ols3DDd4= yqaQKLnoS5YQG3YH6wkgFevfHQI+qdWoZ9wCtAXlbdR8qyHvyIlvA3WJGS2qsAPepqv71t+jUlH= N74RM278MmpTrposh6IdxgI//hnRM=3D"> https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.04.463034v2.abstract</a> &g= t; 300 times). And especially in AI, some preprints will probably never get= peer-reviewed. A well-known example is: </span></p> <p style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt; background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:= 12pt; color:black">Saon G, Kurata G, Sercu T, Audhkhasi K, Thomas S, Dimitr= iadis D, et al. English Conversational Telephone Speech Recognition by Huma= ns and Machines. ArXiv170302136 Cs (2017). Available online at: <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook= .com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasma= nn%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d8= 7025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoi= MC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&= amp;sdata=3DKjvThG65lo46CG7kUkxWVevGNWE7pr7DzeyZwy8o7O4%3D&reserved=3D0= " data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"http://arxiv.org/" shash=3D"HohgZJM= qQSVj1GXgSo8/T0+jviCQiZVles/Wve9EUXDtxAxWZtdhlo00jH8hiPh2WW4Y2s4sj5yau/jZto= hwYHQpeTg8JRbZFa3Qh+JoADtJz2nzHvRzUiextXO8S304mJIfUj5wAQk8fQPUYKTmImQ5PyJPO= 9UY0hkwDK4H0KY=3D"> http://arxiv.org/</a> abs/1703.02136 </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">T= here are multiple platforms to use. The most well-known is <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Fwww.biorxiv.org%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc= .nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7= C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJ= QIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DmlN= z3qiS0TCjW%2FPNeDSolMxUBUNw4mi6yHM98Pwc%2FFk%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth= =3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://www.biorxiv.org/" shash=3D"BiQDVzxcu34= yaEioEsW50V3HPHLZQnC7foOJxm+9/O7tAu74FSOah9MHVdZpThYTe9ZuCqTRP0jtDq42D4OJxK= 9Kv28tSssXKiZ1HgV3mBJuMhuO9Wdpzwi19yD1JQSoa4+vcfH0kafWjGUQriVSViAPVEyV14Abz= WhuoY46/mg=3D"> Biorxiv</a> or <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?u= rl=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40r= adboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9= b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLj= AwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sd= ata=3D1UgJMjqfL9k4mvqCxtS1f1ydQEcTdFLsKp4boFzMJqM%3D&reserved=3D0" data= -auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://arxiv.org/" shash=3D"HcQKfWidQjSV= GxoANeC4Zdfk3a0zDpAalH0unFyZxkTax/zEmuDZGieum4k7wWuDCaR74WXcX3fx9rx87usCV7b= y1Q5WZZ8te8it5z6CCHEcvIBU/Q10uELScKmFoJR2eXcZDnp3Vjuvfi/DxYgEg9lEw66gR0Ulzn= tKvogyQMk=3D"> Arxiv</a>. But also <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.c= om/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fosf.io%2Fpreprints%2F%3Futm_term%3Dopen%2520science= %2520framework%26utm_campaign%3DOSF%2BGeneral%26utm_source%3Dadwords%26utm_= medium%3Dppc%26hsa_acc%3D5222345373%26hsa_cam%3D217339509%26hsa_grp%3D36452= 477753%26hsa_ad%3D150809658182%26hsa_src%3Dg%26hsa_tgt%3Dkwd-300201585279%2= 6hsa_kw%3Dopen%2520science%2520framework%26hsa_mt%3Db%26hsa_net%3Dadwords%2= 6hsa_ver%3D3%26gclid%3DEAIaIQobChMIp-_k7sGR-wIVFweLCh2Sbw5YEAAYASAAEgIj7vD_= BwE&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4= b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C6380340874= 25522653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTi= I6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DtLlNsk%2BwyhvohxNE9DwC= TGCtj6gX%2Fys6s9NA9LYfAck%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" origi= nalsrc=3D"https://osf.io/preprints/?utm_term=3Dopen%20science%20framework&a= mp;utm_campaign=3DOSF+General&utm_source=3Dadwords&utm_medium=3Dppc= &hsa_acc=3D5222345373&hsa_cam=3D217339509&hsa_grp=3D36452477753= &hsa_ad=3D150809658182&hsa_src=3Dg&hsa_tgt=3Dkwd-300201585279&a= mp;hsa_kw=3Dopen%20science%20framework&hsa_mt=3Db&hsa_net=3Dadwords= &hsa_ver=3D3&gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMIp-_k7sGR-wIVFweLCh2Sbw5YEAAYASAAEg= Ij7vD_BwE" shash=3D"FgPyjdmNMdN8H2RGkHo6/9nsaAbHJvpKi8dwchWYjfIOsLHfaHURyRH= xuNqkGZmdAb1b88dpcnQA9jsUzxUsqfNiSSUZL+eissKkhsmnPgXpxFlz5Vj0Fm5XSW5tl4/aJs= e0YVq2Sn3vXE7Xw/+UpYNrB05IhseZfsSiEe7qQWY=3D"> OSF</a> or <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= =3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecord%2F5600535%23.Y2NxnaSZOUk&data=3D05= %7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c= 76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknow= n%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI= 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DaACOs1n69Qltnek04xLlOe%2FQA7cyCHc9MRF6B= HbiVQ0%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://z= enodo.org/record/5600535#.Y2NxnaSZOUk" shash=3D"wOe2Q/zFh7beAzIvu4flxXbS+50= yy5B+xgKdIU0HKt1XFTKv8Ikt3buKrgypL2ozw4FhltzAMQzI/w8OuAR6nUsbAXfe67JeNVvgNv= vAN+NU8aoa416CKVyc4fK6QzZQN0OsOMz1gRoH0dNZqH0XOEBw1D/8N1tmT2eayWAxXOw=3D"> Zenodo</a>. I have used OSF since it has a broad scope and allows you to up= load projects. It provides a preprint DOI, which remains the same if you up= date the preprint at a later stage. Also, you can link the DOI of the final= peer-reviewed version of your paper. Zenodo can also be used for projects (data+paper), but every update will c= reate a new DOI. </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black= ">Q1a How do you regard the status of preprints? </span></b><span styl= e=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black"></span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black= ">Q1b Is it a missed opportunity if one decides not to go for a peer-review= process of a preprint? </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; colo= r:black"></span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">A= nother new development is open community-driven peer review procedures. I f= ound examples in other fields; see below. </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black= ">Q2a Do you know of examples of community-driven peer review in hearing sc= iences? </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black"></span= ></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black= ">Q2b Can you recommend a community-driven journal? </span></b><span s= tyle=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black"></span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">M= any scientists have responded to the new transparent consultative peer-revi= ew procedure by eLife (<a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outloo= k.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Felifesciences.org%2Fabout%2Fpeer-review&data= =3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac= 09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CU= nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLC= JXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3Dv28LpZqCXLsa1JFtILMBxF%2FH60xDgKdg= Ty4%2FwzT7Sts%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"ht= tps://elifesciences.org/about/peer-review" shash=3D"eKBe/wHa94M1jA5FnkVpn6E= TiwKgkuRnpr5WV1sr7YkyCfAhgkce48G4ky7xnrEpPTfT6tWZLJXj6OeqDhaaxAL2qw6tJNus6C= SRKj8UuPlqJbwXkzfqxaFN9csnVGQDRCHyl6B3YZyfh/+bBSZxi3c6tiPjfxt2XC+uu2tzeJA= =3D">https://elifesciences.org/about/peer-review</a>). This might be an exciting venue for those looking for new ways of peer rev= iew. However, the charges amount to $2000. The charges for open access can = be enormous (Nature $7000?) and a barrier for early career researchers.&nbs= p;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">S= o far, I have found the following examples of community journal/peer review= processes: </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">P= ubpeer (</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.5pt; font-family:"Source Sa= ns Pro",sans-serif; color:rgb(103,106,108); background:white">The = ;<strong><span style=3D"font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif"= >PubPeer</span></strong> Foundation </span><i><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">is a California-regis= tered public-benefit corporation with 501(c)(3) nonprofit status in the Uni= ted States. The overarching goal of the Foundation is to improve the qualit= y of scientific research by enabling innovative approaches for community interaction. The bylaws of the Foundat= ion establish <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F= %2Fpubpeer.com%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7= C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C= 0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoi= V2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DvRB1GnWL= ewGeQq33FeAKB1rCTzBOmNl98LaAEEgyZsc%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verif= ied" originalsrc=3D"http://pubpeer.com/" shash=3D"mwYlOzc1ZW5raCSwu/yWfFY8o= ToqrLMZkBC65sTS9MqkPRXrYt2bH7yuzXMN/zaCdVQvhiL9VEfd2ONERlmAyfFzh7OFirPFZ9eR= pLGMe91kOkCd3+urhQePWGXYO8bXIVPSTrhU0Dz/rsOpEa0a3ibF5z4vpS9DyzWWJhTRX1w=3D"= > pubpeer.com</a> as a service run for the benefit of its readers and comment= ers, who create its content. Our current focus is maintaining and developin= g the <b>PubPeer</b> online platform for post-publication peer re= view</span></i><span style=3D"font-size:11.5pt; font-family:"Source Sa= ns Pro",sans-serif; color:rgb(103,106,108); background:white">. <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Fpubpeer.com%2Fstatic%2Fabout_&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%4= 0radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025= e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4w= LjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&= sdata=3D0t8%2BXauAE7XldPDu9%2Fuvb7fUR9f94nEiMW6wFcIrbdY%3D&reserved=3D0= " data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://pubpeer.com/static/about_" = shash=3D"tknB/PtA/PLWnj9013XAJyWYgxqFVdQSHcNa/8ymoT8lGK8rqTKQRz9dZcPM7pwtHB= Xwbd93szEEyrG2RPpob6QlUp6/aY6ofMG0Uaow3VkX0awY9puMzE4E8czYp3PCKgrDhkNFJp/is= JnGEuRMnSMw0qjhJlOGsL0u+TagIZ4=3D"> https://pubpeer.com/static/about_</a>)</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;= color:black"> </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">H= ere you can find our preprint on that platform </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black"><= a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F= %2Fpubpeer.com%2Fpublications%2FAE2235B5F9F35577B977F87F9834B8&data=3D0= 5%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1= c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnkno= wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVC= I6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D4MC%2FcoiraA6Gizew9dCvN6YRqyCCdcEIAB94= f78w39A%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://= pubpeer.com/publications/AE2235B5F9F35577B977F87F9834B8" shash=3D"euLxzYAEX= 4yAK9CWBtEs6i+e5hQ3blQYJJnhQfGxKaH8gElgVYyCDujKvP1FViwvjaN2ZrIkpxC+dzXLO3xq= /K2sRosvyfFFY29hVlN0J0b1v4AdpQwu7AH7p+KAuu//Ns5FL2N+T2wfOewbIvBy8mVf/01S0L6= fRcvXLYQxZNM=3D">https://pubpeer.com/publications/AE2235B5F9F35577B977F87F9= 834B8</a> </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">I= t looks like an easy platform to use. It can be used for creating special i= ssues/collections (see <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Fpubpeer.com%2Fpublications%2Fpeeriodicals&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Will= em.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471= e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8= eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7= C%7C%7C&sdata=3DeA%2FE7yHQfDCpBXT8QdFUGIuBLYq3KHQEKyzKyxo0eEM%3D&re= served=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://pubpeer.com/publi= cations/peeriodicals" shash=3D"j0sZMkAXndIqemZjtwsaO/gy4DtSUT0fn1Qo2ZVCA6kp= 0D3KhWVcPVGGNBHEUSGzeyEVxdWnCYuJeaHw9au4twgiqL3dsMgJsWDBqTRBMcZSM61NzIKbXsw= OZO5ObxmtVo1KIFBLdLH9oJqZopZBQlmsNUFsqpPSylS1njCYr1g=3D"> https://pubpeer.com/publications/peeriodicals</a>). At the start, I had tro= uble registering using my name/institution. An anonymous account was create= d quickly. Currently, PubPeer is used for post-publication review. I heard = that in other disciplines, Pubpeer is used to flag suspicious publications (read fraud). </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">A= nother exciting example is ReviewCommons (</span><em><span style=3D"font-si= ze:12pt; font-family:Lora; color:rgb(45,45,45); background:white">Review Co= mmons</span></em><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:Lora; color:rgb= (45,45,45); background:white"> </span><i><span style=3D"font-size:12pt= ; color:black">provides authors with a Refereed Preprint, which includes the authors=92 manuscript= , reports from a single round of peer review and the authors=92 response. T= hese Refereed Preprints are transferred on the author=92s behalf to bioRxiv= . The most recently-completed Review Commons peer-reviews are listed below, with the most recently posted reviews at th= e top</span></i><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:Lora; color:rgb(= 45,45,45); background:white">. </span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black"><a href=3D"https://eur02= .safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.reviewcommons.or= g%2Fauthors%2F&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2c= ad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7= C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l= uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DmGe1cZvwBVV= oU6bB%2FnuD37XEiAED8c%2FgtqYKGDg9L3M%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Veri= fied" originalsrc=3D"https://www.reviewcommons.org/authors/" shash=3D"SqGU5= p1tsmjyk440jDlyC0LZFLcF0DmDxR1IEak38ifr0a0xztO6Np+9Bt3hRm7DWiHVo5IHkJV5JlU1= R4Ai2qX6AbGPDx5UBKosA+cjfmqSeVixjTgh68WYwq5RagjGGBSyhChQCwb0RuU0zbEfgf0DqAX= RXwMwe+cZwMz+Sbs=3D">https://www.reviewcommons.org/authors/</a>) </spa= n></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">U= nfortunately, auditory sciences and audiology are not within the scope of t= he peer-review initiative. </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">T= he last example I know of is NBDT (NBDT <i>is a community journal. If your handling editor sees it as in-scope it i= s appropriate. Editors are instructed to only handle papers that they consi= der running as a journal club paper for their own lab</i> <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Fnbdt.scholasticahq.com%2Ffor-authors&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wa= smann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c4= 8d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI= joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%= 7C&sdata=3DQ6thRxtRpwhQuFckPRWJQm%2F9%2FXzhOgYNTpsJ9NlXc0Y%3D&reser= ved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://nbdt.scholasticahq.c= om/for-authors" shash=3D"pjiNSsGdkn5Rvx6CbijAV4lLYbpwLRFzuPaxpFN2Ii+IXrbaqi= p/XEpxNCC90gKR+4Weiw0pB9Pas6x08kA5LtJRNBRtgyuVv4JpLJWNZTUwPjeaDjCRS9mGkVCQ6= xqcDTfcxrs+fogc7xVPlx1lSXnuBLYt7V5j+gM2myxXlkU=3D"> https://nbdt.scholasticahq.com/for-authors</a>). It=92s interesting to see = their procedures, including =93<b>Can you propose reviewers?</b> Short= answer: no. Long answer: we did our own statistical analysis on a private = dataset and have concluded that it produces huge undesirable biases without leading to better reviews.=94 </span>= </p> <div style=3D"border-top:none currentcolor; border-right:none currentcolor;= border-left:none currentcolor; border-bottom:1pt solid windowtext; padding= :0cm 0cm 1pt"> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> </div> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">T= he Carbon Footprint of Hearing Healthcare </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black; b= ackground:white">With Jan de Laat, </span><span style=3D"font-size:12p= t; color:black">I have just written a perspective paper/blog about the Carb= on Footprint of Hearing Healthcare (see version 2, Preprint DOI <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/= ?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fdoi.org%2F10.31219%2Fosf.io%2F3sj5u&data=3D05%7C01= %7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudumc.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7C= b208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CT= WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%= 3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3DHHefyXLiVnj5pEXMRZYxAXNeaq1fDU%2BGoKqjkno4Eg= E%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D"Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://doi.or= g/10.31219/osf.io/3sj5u" shash=3D"pE2vuY4V0U5MUk1EputDllWRX10nkErca9LO8nwx5= B4LN5Kkf4YoPXB/E6ea3NeA43V/mim7Ei6B8lCOon92+MNPwbVUOQO+OJPfWL4cwW2ZQZc63x8B= rlTtPSDQ5bwPaykT2orQOYW8R3OjZVMgidT4IYKseQVqcoLBGeS1koc=3D"> 10.31219/osf.io/3sj5u</a>). The hearing tracker will publish the content to= day/tomorrow as a blog. So far, we have extracted information from <a href=3D"https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2= F%2Fwww.pwc.com%2Fsk%2Fen%2Fenvironmental-social-and-corporate-governance-e= sg%2Fesg-reporting.html&data=3D05%7C01%7CJan-Willem.Wasmann%40radboudum= c.nl%7C2cad083e59fc4b12a51208dac09f1c76%7Cb208fe69471e48c48d87025e9b9a157f%= 7C1%7C0%7C638034087425678874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLC= JQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3D4G= qm43jdYQhVzSWSxUGkeIVn4b1rrXMGaIz7QNmMKKU%3D&reserved=3D0" data-auth=3D= "Verified" originalsrc=3D"https://www.pwc.com/sk/en/environmental-social-an= d-corporate-governance-esg/esg-reporting.html" shash=3D"dGeiEdOF7Cd0wDydCUr= vYkkDKmEH/6DniWYrt6aJvpwNABZmb1zt19Jq61EgCgSNaa4MQekX0FfM2ROyKxf/U1rYaqLrb7= D0u4hEpQYSKNRt/YWKq+6z1Uklcn8FyybKIjPzlEsVnZLFreK9UdTCH43og+BUxqeCf16yihNlb= j4=3D"> ESG reports</a> and our contacts within the hearing healthcare industry. Id= eally, we would like to organize a community-driven review process to colle= ct comments from engineers, industry, sustainability officers, authors from= ESG reports, and scientists. </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black= ">Q3a What would be a suitable platform to organize and publish a community= -driven review process of a perspective paper about carbon footprint in hea= ring healthcare? </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:blac= k"></span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">A= nother ambition could be to create a carbon footprint tracker of hearing he= althcare by annually updating table 1 from the preprint, including an asses= sment of whether climate ambitions by industry were updated and achieved. </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black= ">Q3b What would be a suitable approach to annually monitor the carbon foot= print of the hearing healthcare industry? </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">(Maybe not peer-revi= ewed?)<b> </b></span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">P= lease let me know what you think is the best community journal for auditory= sciences. Don't hesitate to let us know if you believe opinion pieces shou= ldn=92t get into the review process. For me publishing this perspective paper is a low-risk experiment. If it goes = well, I will consider submitting an original research manuscript. </sp= an></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">T= hank you for your time. I am looking forward to your responses and advice.&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">B= est regards, </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">J= an-Willem Wasmann </span></p> <p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt; color:black">&= nbsp;</span></p> </div> <p><i><span style=3D"font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif">De infor= matie in dit bericht is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Aan dit = bericht en de bijlagen kunnen geen rechten worden ontleend. Heeft u deze e-= mail onbedoeld ontvangen? Dan verzoeken wij u het te vernietigen en de afzender te informeren. 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