Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Spatial release of masking in virtual environments with HRTFs determined from extra-large heads From: "Picinali, Lorenzo" <l.picinali@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2022 06:23:09 +0000--_000_LO2P265MB1134E8AF32DDEAC9958B3DB5BA469LO2P265MB1134GBRP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stuart, not directly related to SRM with increased ITDs, but these might be of inte= rest: https://asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1121/1.423088 https://asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1121/1.423107 https://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/10.0004220 Considering the latter, an simple pilot could be done looking at existing a= uditory models for SRM (e.g. from the https://amtoolbox.org/) and see what = happens when using HRTFs with larger ITDs. We have a PhD student, in collaboration with Eriksholm/Oticon, currently wo= rking on adaptation to altered interaural cues - happy to chat more about t= hat! best Lorenzo -- Dr Lorenzo Picinali Reader in Audio Experience Design<https://www.axdesign.co.uk/> Dyson School of Design Engineering Imperial College London Dyson Building Imperial College Road South Kensington, SW7 2DB, London E: l.picinali@xxxxxxxx http://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/l.picinali https://www.axdesign.co.uk/ ________________________________ From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx>= on behalf of Stuart Rosen <uclytsr@xxxxxxxx> Sent: 13 September 2022 16:59 To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> Subject: [AUDITORY] Spatial release of masking in virtual environments with= HRTFs determined from extra-large heads Does anyone know of relevant articles concerning this topic? It would seem = obvious that, at least for ILDs and the better ear effect, bigger could be = better (and maybe not), but what about ITDs that are longer than one experi= ences? Thanks for any pointers! Yours - Stuart ________________________________ Prof Stuart Rosen, PhD Professor of Speech & Hearing Science UCL Speech, Hearing & Phonetic Sciences 2 Wakefield Street London WC1N 1PF UK Telephone numbers: * Office: (+ 44 [0]20) 7679 4077 * Admin: (+ 44 [0]20) 7679 4050 * Internal: ext 24077 Email: s.rosen@xxxxxxxx<mailto:s.rosen@xxxxxxxx> Home page: http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/stuart ________________________________ --_000_LO2P265MB1134E8AF32DDEAC9958B3DB5BA469LO2P265MB1134GBRP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> Hi Stuart,</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> not directly related to SRM with increased ITDs, but these might be of inte= rest:</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof ContentPasted0"> <a href=3D"https://asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1121/1.423088" id=3D"LPNoLPOWAL= inkPreview">https://asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1121/1.423088</a><br> </div> <div class=3D"_Entity _EType_OWALinkPreview _EId_OWALinkPreview _EReadonly_= 1"></div> <div class=3D"elementToProof"><a href=3D"https://asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1= 121/1.423107" id=3D"LPNoLPOWALinkPreview_1">https://asa.scitation.org/doi/1= 0.1121/1.423107</a></div> <div class=3D"elementToProof ContentPasted1"><a href=3D"https://asa.scitati= on.org/doi/full/10.1121/10.0004220" id=3D"LPNoLPOWALinkPreview_2">https://a= sa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/10.0004220</a></div> <div class=3D"_Entity _EType_OWALinkPreview _EId_OWALinkPreview_2 _EReadonl= y_1"></div> <br> <div class=3D"elementToProof ContentPasted1 ContentPasted2" style=3D"font-f= amily: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0= , 0, 0);"> Considering the latter, an simple pilot could be done looking at existing a= uditory models for SRM (e.g. from the <a href=3D"https://amtoolbox.org/" id=3D"LPlnk365045">https://amtoolbox.org= /</a>) and see what happens when using HRTFs with larger ITDs.</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof ContentPasted1 ContentPasted2" style=3D"font-f= amily: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0= , 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof ContentPasted1 ContentPasted2" style=3D"font-f= amily: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0= , 0, 0);"> We have a PhD student, in collaboration with Eriksholm/Oticon, currently wo= rking on adaptation to altered interaural cues - happy to chat more about t= hat!</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof ContentPasted1 ContentPasted2" style=3D"font-f= amily: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0= , 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof ContentPasted1 ContentPasted2" style=3D"font-f= amily: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0= , 0, 0);"> best</div> <div class=3D"elementToProof ContentPasted1 ContentPasted2" style=3D"font-f= amily: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0= , 0, 0);"> Lorenzo<br> </div> <div class=3D"elementToProof ContentPasted1" style=3D"font-family: Calibri,= Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div class=3D"_Entity _EType_OWALinkPreview _EId_OWALinkPreview_1 _EReadonl= y_1"></div> <br> <div class=3D"elementToProof"><br> </div> <div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div id=3D"Signature"> <div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size= : 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </div> <div></div> <div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size:12pt; color= :#000000; background-color:#FFFFFF; font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,san= s-serif"> <div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); 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It would seem obvious that, at least for ILDs and the better ea= r effect, bigger could be better (and maybe not), but what about ITDs that = are longer than one experiences?</font></p> <p><font face=3D"Calibri">Thanks for any pointers!</font></p> <p><font face=3D"Calibri">Yours - Stuart</font></p> <p><font face=3D"Calibri"></font><br> </p> <div class=3D"x_moz-signature"> <hr> Prof Stuart Rosen, PhD<br> Professor of Speech & Hearing Science<br> UCL Speech, Hearing & Phonetic Sciences<br> 2 Wakefield Street<br> London WC1N 1PF<br> UK<br> <br> Telephone numbers: <ul> <li>Office: (+ 44 [0]20) 7679 4077</li><li>Admin: (+ 44 [0]20) 7679 4050</l= i><li>Internal: ext 24077</li></ul> Email: <a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:s.rosen@xxxxxxxx= c.uk">s.rosen@xxxxxxxx</a><br> Home page: <a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.phon.ucl= .ac.uk/home/stuart"> http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/stuart</a><br> <br> <hr> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_LO2P265MB1134E8AF32DDEAC9958B3DB5BA469LO2P265MB1134GBRP_--