Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Query about Python software From: =?utf-8?Q?Krzysztof_Basi=C5=84ski?= <k.basinski@xxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 12:56:31 +0100--Apple-Mail=_18A03DF2-659D-4015-AA7D-37C2CC3CF4CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Kishorekumar, I'm a Python aficionado but I had spent a lot of time with different = languages before settling in on Python (Java, C, JS, Ruby, R...). I can = wholeheartedly recommend it for (what I guess) is your use case and in = general as a first programming language to learn. Why? 1. Python is super easy to learn in comparison to other programming = languages. It has an easy syntax and you don=E2=80=99t have to worry = about a lot of technical things such as memory management, strict = typing, garbage collection etc. 2. There are wonderful free resources, as others mentioned. I can = recommend A Byte of Python as a starting point = https://python.swaroopch.com <https://python.swaroopch.com/>. 3. Python Standard Library offers great solutions for common problems = (such as file handling, http, json interfaces etc) 4. Python docs is something that you can actually read and understand. = Same thing with error messages. These can be cryptic in other languages = (like R!:) 5. There is the Jupyter ecosystem for interactive programming in Python. = I know, I know, it supports other languages as well but Python Jupyter = Kernels are really great (in comparison to R kernels for example). Also, = Google Colab provides a free, interactive Python environment without the = need to setup anything. 6. Most ML is done in Python and TensorFlow and PyTorch are industry = standards. 7. Librosa (https://librosa.org <https://librosa.org/>) and Surfboard = (https://github.com/novoic/surfboard = <https://github.com/novoic/surfboard>) are great packages for audio = feature extraction if you want to do that. 8. Python is fun! Try `import this` to see what I mean. That said, Python can be kind of slow in some cases (though you can = overcome this easily if you know what you=E2=80=99re doing). If you = really need the speed, Julia promises to be as efficient and as fast as = C. To be honest though, in 3+ years of working in Python the whole = =E2=80=9CPython is slow=E2=80=9D thing didn=E2=80=99t really bother me. = I would say it=E2=80=99s faster than R, at least in my use cases. Also, if you need proper statistics, R might be a better choice. = Statsmodels is the standard package for statistics in Python and you can = do a lot with it. Unfortunately it can be a bit challenging and the docs = are not so great. My current favourite for statistics in Python is = Pingouin (https://pingouin-stats.org <https://pingouin-stats.org/>), = though it is missing some stuff (no mixed models yet). Best of luck, Chris -- Krzysztof Basi=C5=84ski, PhD Assistant Professor Department of Psychology Medical University of Gda=C5=84sk, Poland http://mug.edu.pl | http://kbas.gumed.edu.pl > On 2 Mar 2021, at 09:50, kishorekumar Bharshetty = <kumarbharshetty@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >=20 > Dear all,=20 > I am Kishorekumar Bharshetty, Audiologist from India. I am currently = working as an Clinical Audiologist at Amplifon India Pvt Ltd.=20 >=20 > I am curious to learn about Python software which is a language coding = software, thinking that it will help me to set a base to learn more = about Machine Learning technology.=20 >=20 > I wanted to know, whether learning Python software for an audiologist = is a good idea? If yes, how can I be benefitted with this in future?=20 >=20 > Kindly, help me with this query.=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks, and Regards > Kishorekumar Bharshetty > Audiologist > Amplifon India Pvt Ltd, India > +91-9663148361 > kumarbharshetty@xxxxxxxx <mailto:kumarbharshetty@xxxxxxxx>=20 --Apple-Mail=_18A03DF2-659D-4015-AA7D-37C2CC3CF4CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Dear = Kishorekumar,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I'm a = Python aficionado but I had spent a lot of time with different languages = before settling in on Python (Java, C, JS, Ruby, R...). I can = wholeheartedly recommend it for (what I guess) is your use case and in = general as a first programming language to learn. Why?</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">1. Python is super easy = to learn in comparison to other programming languages. It has an easy = syntax and you don=E2=80=99t have to worry about a lot of technical = things such as memory management, strict typing, garbage collection = etc.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">2. There = are wonderful free resources, as others mentioned. I can recommend A = Byte of Python as a starting point <a = href=3D"https://python.swaroopch.com" = class=3D"">https://python.swaroopch.com</a>.</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">3. Python Standard Library offers great = solutions for common problems (such as file handling, http, json = interfaces etc)</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">4. Python docs is something that you can actually read and = understand. Same thing with error messages. These can be cryptic in = other languages (like R!:)</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">5. There is the Jupyter ecosystem for interactive programming = in Python. I know, I know, it supports other languages as well but = Python Jupyter Kernels are really great (in comparison to R kernels for = example). Also, Google Colab provides a free, interactive Python = environment without the need to setup anything.</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">6. Most ML is done in Python and = TensorFlow and PyTorch are industry standards.</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">7. Librosa (<a = href=3D"https://librosa.org" class=3D"">https://librosa.org</a>) and = Surfboard (<a href=3D"https://github.com/novoic/surfboard" = class=3D"">https://github.com/novoic/surfboard</a>) are great packages = for audio feature extraction if you want to do that.</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">8. Python is fun! Try = `import this` to see what I mean.</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">That= said, Python can be kind of slow in some cases (though you can overcome = this easily if you know what you=E2=80=99re doing). If you really need = the speed, Julia promises to be as efficient and as fast as C. To be = honest though, in 3+ years of working in Python the whole =E2=80=9CPython = is slow=E2=80=9D thing didn=E2=80=99t really bother me. I would say = it=E2=80=99s faster than R, at least in my use cases.</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Also, if you need proper = statistics, R might be a better choice. Statsmodels is the standard = package for statistics in Python and you can do a lot with it. = Unfortunately it can be a bit challenging and the docs are not so great. = My current favourite for statistics in Python is Pingouin (<a = href=3D"https://pingouin-stats.org" = class=3D"">https://pingouin-stats.org</a>), though it is missing some = stuff (no mixed models yet).</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Best of luck,</div><div = class=3D"">Chris</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""> <div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div>--</div><div>Krzysztof Basi=C5=84ski, PhD<br = class=3D"">Assistant Professor<br class=3D"">Department of Psychology<br = class=3D"">Medical University of Gda=C5=84sk, Poland<br class=3D""><a = href=3D"http://mug.edu.pl" class=3D"">http://mug.edu.pl</a> | <a= href=3D"http://kbas.gumed.edu.pl" = class=3D"">http://kbas.gumed.edu.pl</a></div></div> </div> <div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On 2 Mar 2021, at 09:50, kishorekumar Bharshetty <<a = href=3D"mailto:kumarbharshetty@xxxxxxxx" = class=3D"">kumarbharshetty@xxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" = class=3D"">Dear all, <div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I am Kishorekumar = Bharshetty, Audiologist from India. I am currently working as an = Clinical Audiologist at Amplifon India Pvt Ltd. </div><div = dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" = class=3D"">I am curious to learn about Python software which is a = language coding software, thinking that it will help me to set a base to = learn more about Machine Learning technology. </div><div dir=3D"auto"= class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I wanted = to know, whether learning Python software for an audiologist is a good = idea? If yes, how can I be benefitted with this in = future? </div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Kindly, help me with this query. </div><div = dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Thanks, and = Regards</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Kishorekumar = Bharshetty</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Audiologist</div><div = dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Amplifon India Pvt Ltd, India</div><div = dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">+91-9663148361</div><div dir=3D"auto" = class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:kumarbharshetty@xxxxxxxx" = class=3D"">kumarbharshetty@xxxxxxxx</a> </div></div> </div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_18A03DF2-659D-4015-AA7D-37C2CC3CF4CB--