Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] converting masking thresholds to masker levels of speech sounds From: Frederico Pereira <pereira.frederico@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 12:15:10 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--00000000000070e61a059d464b46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mengli, I=C2=B4m currently working on something similar and I=C2=B4ve been developi= ng on top of the code and psychoacoustic models based on: *ISO/IEC 11172-3:1993, Information technology =E2=80=93 Coding of moving pi= ctures and associated audio for digital storage media at up to about 1,5 Mbit/s = =E2=80=93 Part 3: Audio* https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/1296956 and Matlab code provided by: https://www.petitcolas.net/fabien/software/mpeg/#references Hoping this is of some help to you. regards, Frederico On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 5:19 AM Feng, Mengli (2018) < Mengli.Feng.2018@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear All, > > I am trying to convert masking curves into the frequency responses of the > original maskers (single speech sounds). The maskees I am using are narro= w > band noises at different frequencies. > > It has taken me enormous effort to find an auditory model to make accurat= e > predictions, considering the maskers are complex tones with multiple > harmonics in high frequency region. Might anyone provide some guidance or > advice on finding a suitable model? > > Is it even possible to do such prediction knowing only the frequency > responses of the maskees and the masking thresholds given that temporal > effects would inevitably appear because of the higher harmonics in human > speech sounds? Any opinions? > > Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated! > > Best Regards, > Mengli > > > -- > Mengli Feng > PhD Student > PGR Collective EPMS School Convenor > > Audio, Biosignals and Machine Learning Group > Department of Electronic Engineering > Royal Holloway, University of London > > Research Interest: > Speech/ voice production and perception > Ongoing Project: > the perceptual effect of Bone-conducted sound of own voice > >>> Pure Page > > --=20 Frederico Pereira Mobile:+351937356301 Email:pereira.frederico@xxxxxxxx --00000000000070e61a059d464b46 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div di= r=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Mengli,</div><div><br></div><div>I=C2=B4m currently worki= ng on something similar and I=C2=B4ve been developing on top of the code an= d psychoacoustic models based on:</div><div><i>ISO/IEC 11172-3:1993, Inform= ation technology =E2=80=93 Coding of moving pictures=20 and associated audio for digital storage media at up to about 1,5 Mbit/s = =E2=80=93=20 Part 3: Audio</i></div><div> <p><span lang=3D"PT"><a href=3D"https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/docume= nt/1296956">https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/1296956</a></span= ></p><b></b><i></i><u></u><sub></sub><sup></sup><strike></strike>and Matlab= code provided by:<br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.petitcolas.net/fabi= en/software/mpeg/#references">https://www.petitcolas.net/fabien/software/mp= eg/#references</a></div><div><br></div><div>Hoping this is of some help to = you.</div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Frederico</= div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"gm= ail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 5:19 AM Feng, Mengli (2018) &= lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Mengli.Feng.2018@xxxxxxxx">Mengli.Feng.2018@xxxxxxxx= e.rhul.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl= e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,20= 4,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div></div> <div> <div>Dear All,</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>I am trying to convert masking curves into the frequency responses of = the original maskers (single speech sounds). The maskees I am using are nar= row band noises at different frequencies.</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>It has taken me enormous effort to find an auditory model to make accu= rate predictions, considering the maskers are complex tones with multiple h= armonics in high frequency region. Might anyone provide some guidance or ad= vice on finding a suitable model?=C2=A0</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>Is it even possible to do such prediction knowing only the frequency r= esponses of the maskees and the masking thresholds given that temporal effe= cts would inevitably appear because of the higher harmonics in human speech= sounds? Any opinions?</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated!</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>Best Regards,</div> <div>Mengli</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div><br> </div> <div id=3D"gmail-m_8380058477085050702ms-outlook-mobile-signature"> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">--=C2=A0</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Mengli Feng</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">PhD Student </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">PGR Collective=C2=A0EPMS=C2=A0School Convenor<= /div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">=C2=A0</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Audio, Biosignals and Machine Learning Group</= div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Department of Electronic Engineering</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Royal Holloway, University of London=C2=A0</di= v> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">=C2=A0</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Research Interest: </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Speech/ voice production and perception</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Ongoing Project: </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">the perceptual effect of Bone-conducted sound = of own voice </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">>>> Pure Page </div> <div dir=3D"ltr"><br> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signatu= re" dir=3D"ltr">Frederico Pereira<br>Mobile:+351937356301<br><a href=3D"mai= lto:Email%3Apereira.frederico@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">Email:pereira.fr= ederico@xxxxxxxx</a></div></div> --00000000000070e61a059d464b46--