Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Help finding old localization reference From: Owen Brimijoin <00000067cae902a2-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 16:19:22 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--_000_DM6PR15MB31006230B2BB12A56ED3AF39E4290DM6PR15MB3100namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like Tom and Bill I am in the Wallach fan club, for sure. He did a number o= f influential studies on the integration of motion and spatial hearing, but= I=92m not entirely certain he did the particular study you are describing.= I think that may have actually been Arnoult, drawing on work by Clark (194= 9) on the audiogyral illusion which used actual rotation of the listener in= stead of the illusory rotation you are describing: Localization of sound during rotation of the visual environment Malcolm D Arnoult The American journal of psychology 65 (1), 48-58, 1952 Is this the one? He had an earlier one as well that I can=92t find using my= mobile phone atm. Best, Owen. W. Owen Brimijoin Perceptual Research Scientist Facebook Reality Labs ________________________________ From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <auditory@xxxxxxxx>= on behalf of William Yost <william.yost@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 21:20 To: auditory@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Help finding old localization reference I am pretty sure the article is by Hans Wallach, this paradigm involving ro= tation vection is described at the end of the paper. Wallach, H. (1940). =93The role of head movements and vistibular and visual= cues in sound localization,=94 J. Exp. Psycho.l 27, 339=96368. http://dx.d= oi.org/10.1037/h0054629. William A. Yost, PhD Research Professor Spatial Hearing Laboratory College of Health Solutions ASU, P.O. Box 870102 Tempe, AZ 85287 USA 480-727-7148 Fax: 480-965-8516 William.Yost@xxxxxxxx<mailto:William.Yost@xxxxxxxx> https://isearch.asu.edu/profile/1099656<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v= 2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__isearch.asu.edu_profile_1099656&d=3DDwMGaQ&c=3D5VD0RTtN= lTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=3D1JJIPDmTuL_tCkct0bi-pWbDvJc5sFi9jAxNTivM9qg&m=3D1l2NQjJb= FhXR8lXstwLFzdmyrxKwvKeX0s5Ef7Bjv1M&s=3D7N-O8JyN-xDp9n-q2PV9o-5qthT7__3oSwS= ZMv0jAUk&e=3D> From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx>= On Behalf Of Smith, Nicholas A. Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:56 AM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Help finding old localization reference I was hoping to get a pointer to reference to an old auditory localization = study that I remember hearing about in an undergrad lecture (my impression = was that it was an old study, back when I was an undergrad in the 1990=92s)= , but has stuck with me all these year because it=92s clever and cool. As I remember it, subjects were seat on a stool within a large cylinder. Th= e walls of the cylinder were made of acoustically transparent canvas or bur= lap, on which vertical black and white stripes were painted. There was a lo= udspeaker directly in front of them, but outside the cylinder so it could b= e heard but not seen. The cylinder rotated slowly to induce the illusion of= motion (subjects felt that they themselves were rotating within a stationa= ry cylinder). When asked where the sound was coming from, they indicated th= at it was directly above, the only location in which interaural intensity a= nd timing cues would be constant, if they were indeed rotating. Assuming I didn=92t imagine this study, I=92d love to talk about this demon= stration with my students, but I need more to go on than my sketchy memorie= s. Thanks in advance, Nick -- Nicholas A. 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He did a number of influential studies on the integration of = motion and spatial hearing, but I=92m not entirely certain he did the parti= cular study you are describing. I think that may have actually been Arnoult, drawing on work by Clark (1949) on th= e audiogyral illusion which used actual rotation of the listener instead of= the illusory rotation you are describing: </div> </div> <div><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">Localization of sound during rotation of the= visual environment</div> <div><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">Malcolm D Arnoult</div> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">The American journal of psychology 65 (1), 4= 8-58, 1952</div> <div><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">Is this the one? He had an earlier one as we= ll that I can=92t find using my mobile phone atm. </div> <div><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">Best,</div> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">Owen. </div> <div><br> </div> <div class=3D"ms-outlook-ios-signature"> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">W. Owen Brimijoin</div> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">Perceptual Research Scientist</div> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">Facebook Reality Labs</div> </div> </div> <div> </div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"dir=3D"ltr""><font face=3D"Calib= ri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> AUD= ITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <auditory@xxxxxxxx> on= behalf of William Yost <william.yost@xxxxxxxx><br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 12, 2019 21:20<br> <b>To:</b> auditory@xxxxxxxx<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AUDITORY] Help finding old localization reference <div> </div> </font></div> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"> <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- @xxxxxxxx {font-family:Helvetica} @xxxxxxxx {font-family:SimSun} @xxxxxxxx {font-family:"Cambria Math"} @xxxxxxxx {font-family:Calibri} @xxxxxxxx {} p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72; text-decoration:underline} p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0 {margin-right:0in; margin-left:0in; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif} span.EmailStyle18 {font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext} .MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt} @xxxxxxxx WordSection1 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in} div.WordSection1 {} --> </style> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am pretty sure the article is by Hans Wallach, thi= s paradigm involving rotation vection is described at the end of the paper. </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style=3D"margin-left:24.0pt; text-indent:-= 24.0pt; line-height:150%; text-autospace:none"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; line-height:150%; font-family:"Times = New Roman",serif">Wallach, H. (<b>1940</b>). =93The role of head movem= ents and vistibular and visual cues in sound localization,=94 J. Exp. Psych= o.l <b>27</b>, 339=96368. http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/h0054629.</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">William A. Yost, PhD</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Research Professor</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Spatial Hearing Laboratory</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">College of Health Solutions</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">ASU, P.O. Box 870102</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Tempe, AZ 85287 USA</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">480-727-7148</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Fax: 480-965-8516</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:William.Yost@xxxxxxxx">William.Yost= @xxxxxxxx</a></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?= u=3Dhttps-3A__isearch.asu.edu_profile_1099656&d=3DDwMGaQ&c=3D5VD0RT= tNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=3D1JJIPDmTuL_tCkct0bi-pWbDvJc5sFi9jAxNTivM9qg&m= =3D1l2NQjJbFhXR8lXstwLFzdmyrxKwvKeX0s5Ef7Bjv1M&s=3D7N-O8JyN-xDp9n-q2PV9= o-5qthT7__3oSwSZMv0jAUk&e=3D">https://isearch.asu.edu/profile/1099656</= a></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none; border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding:3.0pt 0i= n 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Percept= ion <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Smith, Nicholas A.<br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:56 AM<br> <b>To:</b> AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<br> <b>Subject:</b> Help finding old localization reference</p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was hoping to get a pointer to reference to an old= auditory localization study that I remember hearing about in an undergrad = lecture (my impression was that it was an old study, back when I was an und= ergrad in the 1990=92s), but has stuck with me all these year because it=92s clever and cool. </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">As I remember it, subjects were seat on a stool with= in a large cylinder. The walls of the cylinder were made of acoustically tr= ansparent canvas or burlap, on which vertical black and white stripes were = painted. There was a loudspeaker directly in front of them, but outside the cylinder so it could be heard but not se= en. The cylinder rotated slowly to induce the illusion of motion (subjects = felt that they themselves were rotating within a stationary cylinder). When= asked where the sound was coming from, they indicated that it was directly above, the only location in whic= h interaural intensity and timing cues would be constant, if they were inde= ed rotating. </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Assuming I didn=92t imagine this study, I=92d love t= o talk about this demonstration with my students, but I need more to go on = than my sketchy memories.</p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks in advance,</p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nick </p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s= ize:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif; color:black"><br> -- <br> Nicholas A. Smith, Ph.D. <br> <br> Department of Speech, Language and Hearing Sciences<br> University of Missouri - Columbia<br> School of Health Professions<br> 319 Lewis Hall, Columbia MO, 65211<br> Office Phone: (573) 882-3575</span></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_DM6PR15MB31006230B2BB12A56ED3AF39E4290DM6PR15MB3100namp_--