Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Research in Auditory Processing From: Justin London <000000aef06ea760-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 08:51:04 -0500 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--Apple-Mail=_A8C88E3B-9D1F-43B5-B55F-1DD971695C85 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear John, A few scattershot brainstorming responses to your query . . . Mapping the one-dimensional percptual attribute of pitch on a vertical = high-low scale intuitively seems like it ought to be a universal, though = your research has shown that it is not. The ethnomusicological = literature provides some additional evidence; Feld (1990) found that = that Kaluli of Papua New Guinea mapped pitch on to a small to large = continuum. Likewise Repp and Knoblich (2009) found that pianists, who = are of course trained to read music with pitch on the vertical axis, = have a bias in perceiving rising intervals as =E2=80=9Cgoing to the = right=E2=80=9D and falling intervals =E2=80=9Cgoing to the left=E2=80=9D. Thus for some populations, cultural condition or musical practice can = introduce alternatives to the =E2=80=9Chigher pitch is =E2=80=98up=E2=80=99= =E2=80=9D association, and hence its association with =E2=80=9Cup =3D = more=E2=80=9D. Best, Justin London Mellon Professor of Music and Cognitive Science, and the Humanities Carleton College jlondon@xxxxxxxx On Mar 10, 2019, at 11:16 PM, John Neuhoff <JNEUHOFF@xxxxxxxx> wrote: It seems almost a truism that there is greater variability among = individuals in the perception of sonified versus visualized data sets. = Yet, finding empirical studies to support this idea appears to be a = challenge. For example, when representing data visually, larger data = values are often represented with increasing vertical extent (e.g., = taller bars in a bar graph). In most cases observers have almost = unanimous agreement on which bar is higher. In audition the same data = can be represented in the domain of musical pitch. High pitch can be = used to represent large data values and low pitch can be used to = represent small data values. However, there is greater disagreement = among listeners in the case of sonification and the data value specified = by pitch. In fact, listeners without musical training often are confused = by the terms "high" and "low" as they pertain to musical pitch (Neuhoff, = Knight, & Wayand, 2002).=20 I would be grateful to learn of other examples of greater perceptual = variability in the auditon versus vision, particulary as it pertains to = data representation.=20 Best,=20 -John Neuhoff ___________________________ John G. Neuhoff Professor Department of Psychology The College of Wooster Chair, Auditory Perception & Cognition Society http://jneuhoff.com <http://jneuhoff.com/> --Apple-Mail=_A8C88E3B-9D1F-43B5-B55F-1DD971695C85 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><font= face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">Dear John,</font><div class=3D""><font = face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><br class=3D""></font></div><div = class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">A few scattershot = brainstorming responses to your query . . .</font></div><div = class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><br = class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial" = class=3D"">Mapping the one-dimensional percptual attribute of pitch on a = vertical high-low scale intuitively seems like it ought to be a = universal, though your research has shown that it is not. The = ethnomusicological literature provides some additional evidence; Feld = (1990) found that that Kaluli of Papua New Guinea mapped pitch on to a = small to large continuum. Likewise Repp and Knoblich (2009) found = that pianists, who are of course trained to read music with pitch on the = vertical axis, have a bias in perceiving rising intervals as =E2=80=9Cgoin= g to the right=E2=80=9D and falling intervals =E2=80=9Cgoing to the = left=E2=80=9D.</font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial" = class=3D""><br class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font = face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">Thus for some populations, cultural condition = or musical practice can introduce alternatives to the =E2=80=9Chigher = pitch is =E2=80=98up=E2=80=99=E2=80=9D association, and hence its = association with =E2=80=9Cup =3D more=E2=80=9D.</font></div><div = class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><br = class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial" = class=3D"">Best,</font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial" = class=3D""><br class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""> <div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><font = face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">Justin London</font></div><div = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><font face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">Mellon Professor = of Music and Cognitive Science, and the Humanities</font></div><div = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><font face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">Carleton = College</font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;"><font face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><a = href=3D"mailto:jlondon@xxxxxxxx" = class=3D"">jlondon@xxxxxxxx</a></font></div><div style=3D"caret-color:= rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: = auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 10, 2019, at 11:16 PM, John = Neuhoff <<a href=3D"mailto:JNEUHOFF@xxxxxxxx" = class=3D"">JNEUHOFF@xxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div = style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" = class=3D"">It seems almost a truism that there is greater variability = among individuals in the perception of sonified versus visualized data = sets. Yet, finding empirical studies to support this idea appears to be = a challenge. For example, when representing data visually, larger data = values are often represented with increasing vertical extent (e.g., = taller bars in a bar graph). In most cases observers have almost = unanimous agreement on which bar is higher. In audition the same data = can be represented in the domain of musical pitch. High pitch can = be used to represent large data values and low pitch can be used to = represent small data values. However, there is greater disagreement = among listeners in the case of sonification and the data value specified = by pitch. In fact, listeners without musical training often are confused = by the terms "high" and "low" as they pertain to musical pitch (Neuhoff, = Knight, & Wayand, 2002).<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""></div><div = style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: Arial, = Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">I would be grateful = to learn of other examples of greater perceptual variability in the = auditon versus vision, particulary as it pertains to data = representation.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br = class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, = sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" = class=3D"">Best,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br = class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, = sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" = class=3D"">-John Neuhoff<br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div id=3D"signature" class=3D""><div = id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; = font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><div = name=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, = Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family:= Tahoma; font-size: 13px;" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">___________________________</div>John G. 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