Re: Moving the AUDITORY list? (Matt Flax )


Subject: Re: Moving the AUDITORY list?
From:    Matt Flax  <flatmax@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:13:19 +1100
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CE16F7ECA0F02D908410D989 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for the great work Dan it has been super. The many decades of great discussions has been fantastic - as well as the general announcements. Personally I would prefer for it to live on Github, such as with the currently empty Hearing Acoustics Audio organisation : https://github.com/orgs/HearingAcousticsAudio That organisation I set up particularly for this community as a test for an idea to move to something a little more modern which also allows for email discussions plus extra functionality. I would be happy to maintain the group there. Apart from being able to host the email list (using the issues tab of general discussion as an example) we can also host repositories and archive publications in the same location. That group is not affiliated with any companies or otherwise - other then the host github. I am not sure if that is a concern or not ? If we do happen to move to another email type group, that is ok, but a little dated :) Matt On 20/10/18 2:14 am, Dan Ellis wrote: > Dear List - > > Al Bregman created the AUDITORY list in 1992, and I took over as the > administrator about a year later.  A lot has changed in Information > and Communication Technologies since then, but the LISTSERV behind > AUDITORY has remained largely unchanged.  In 2000 I home-spun a custom > web interface (in Tcl!) to sidestep the manual edits I had been doing > until then, and it's still what we use, running on my old lab's > machine at Columbia.  That system is also showing its age. > > As you may remember, earlier this year McGill blocked external web > access to the Listserv as a security measure, eliminating the modest > interface modernizations that had been added to Listserv since the > advent of the world wide web. Many of you have since been caught out > by the "confirmation link" that you receive in response to posting, > but which no longer works.  Just this morning I found out (after 25 > years!) how to change the text of the confirmation message to > eliminate this egregious misdirect. > > However, it got me thinking about the future of AUDITORY. In > particular, the current www.auditory.org <http://www.auditory.org> > machine at Columbia won't last for ever, and my leverage there has > declined since I moved to Google.  I wonder if we should move the > whole list to a more modern platform? I would of course make sure the > archives were preserved. > > To me, Google Groups seems like the most obvious choice, but perhaps > my perspective is skewed.  What do you think about the idea of moving > off the McGill listserv, and do you have other suggestions for a good > replacement? > > Best, > >   DAn. --------------CE16F7ECA0F02D908410D989 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <p>Thanks for the great work Dan it has been super. The many decades of great discussions has been fantastic - as well as the general announcements.<br> </p> <p>Personally I would prefer for it to live on Github, such as with the currently empty Hearing Acoustics Audio organisation :</p> <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/orgs/HearingAcousticsAudio">https://github.com/orgs/HearingAcousticsAudio</a></p> <p>That organisation I set up particularly for this community as a test for an idea to move to something a little more modern which also allows for email discussions plus extra functionality.<br> </p> <p>I would be happy to maintain the group there. Apart from being able to host the email list (using the issues tab of general discussion as an example) we can also host repositories and archive publications in the same location.</p> <p>That group is not affiliated with any companies or otherwise - other then the host github. I am not sure if that is a concern or not ?<br> </p> <p>If we do happen to move to another email type group, that is ok, but a little dated :)</p> <p>Matt</p> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/10/18 2:14 am, Dan Ellis wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:31723_1540008497_5BCAAA30_31723_259_2_CAH+6nYyAUO15vJaOV2jEhthToTTndnuL9qmeJwDmT3z0n1pvOg@xxxxxxxx"> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <div dir="ltr">Dear List -  <div><br> </div> <div>Al Bregman created the AUDITORY list in 1992, and I took over as the administrator about a year later.  A lot has changed in Information and Communication Technologies since then, but the LISTSERV behind AUDITORY has remained largely unchanged.  In 2000 I home-spun a custom web interface (in Tcl!) to sidestep the manual edits I had been doing until then, and it's still what we use, running on my old lab's machine at Columbia.  That system is also showing its age.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>As you may remember, earlier this year McGill blocked external web access to the Listserv as a security measure, eliminating the modest interface modernizations that had been added to Listserv since the advent of the world wide web. Many of you have since been caught out by the "confirmation link" that you receive in response to posting, but which no longer works.  Just this morning I found out (after 25 years!) how to change the text of the confirmation message to eliminate this egregious misdirect.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>However, it got me thinking about the future of AUDITORY.  In particular, the current <a href="http://www.auditory.org" moz-do-not-send="true">www.auditory.org</a> machine at Columbia won't last for ever, and my leverage there has declined since I moved to Google.  I wonder if we should move the whole list to a more modern platform? I would of course make sure the archives were preserved.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>To me, Google Groups seems like the most obvious choice, but perhaps my perspective is skewed.  What do you think about the idea of moving off the McGill listserv, and do you have other suggestions for a good replacement?</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Best, </div> <div><br> </div> <div>  DAn.</div> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html> --------------CE16F7ECA0F02D908410D989--


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