Subject: Re: Moving the AUDITORY list? From: gvoysey <gvoysey@xxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:13:27 -0400--0000000000002d4a630578add10d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" No offense to your employer, but Google's propensity for axing products seemingly at a whim makes me hesitant to suggest Groups as a reasonable place to move; lest we have this issue to handle again, unplanned, in 6 months. Stuffing the contents of the current machine into a virtual machine and putting that image somewhere with high uptime seems like the lowest-effort reasonable option -- and as long as the backend isn't cripplingly onerous to maintain, the current UX is kind of reassuringly old-fashioned and i quite like it. --graham On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:29 AM Dan Ellis <dan.ellis@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear List - > > Al Bregman created the AUDITORY list in 1992, and I took over as the > administrator about a year later. A lot has changed in Information and > Communication Technologies since then, but the LISTSERV behind AUDITORY has > remained largely unchanged. In 2000 I home-spun a custom web interface (in > Tcl!) to sidestep the manual edits I had been doing until then, and it's > still what we use, running on my old lab's machine at Columbia. That > system is also showing its age. > > As you may remember, earlier this year McGill blocked external web access > to the Listserv as a security measure, eliminating the modest interface > modernizations that had been added to Listserv since the advent of the > world wide web. Many of you have since been caught out by the "confirmation > link" that you receive in response to posting, but which no longer works. > Just this morning I found out (after 25 years!) how to change the text of > the confirmation message to eliminate this egregious misdirect. > > However, it got me thinking about the future of AUDITORY. In particular, > the current www.auditory.org machine at Columbia won't last for ever, and > my leverage there has declined since I moved to Google. I wonder if we > should move the whole list to a more modern platform? I would of course > make sure the archives were preserved. > > To me, Google Groups seems like the most obvious choice, but perhaps my > perspective is skewed. What do you think about the idea of moving off the > McGill listserv, and do you have other suggestions for a good replacement? > > Best, > > DAn. > -- Graham Voysey Boston University College of Engineering HRC Research Engineer Auditory Biophysics and Simulation Laboratory ERB 413 --0000000000002d4a630578add10d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>No offense to your employer, but Google's propens= ity for axing products seemingly at a whim makes me hesitant to suggest Gro= ups as a reasonable place to move; lest we have this issue to handle again,= unplanned, in 6 months. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Stuffing the content= s of the current machine into a virtual machine and putting that image some= where with high uptime seems like the lowest-effort reasonable option -- an= d as long as the backend isn't cripplingly onerous to maintain, the cur= rent UX is kind of reassuringly old-fashioned and i quite like it. <br></di= v><div><br></div><div>--graham<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div= dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:29 AM Dan Ellis <<a href=3D"mail= to:dan.ellis@xxxxxxxx">dan.ellis@xxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockq= uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc = solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Dear List -=C2=A0<div><br></div><d= iv>Al Bregman created the AUDITORY list in 1992, and I took over as the adm= inistrator about a year later.=C2=A0 A lot has changed in Information and C= ommunication Technologies since then, but the LISTSERV behind AUDITORY has = remained largely unchanged.=C2=A0 In 2000 I home-spun a custom web interfac= e (in Tcl!) to sidestep the manual edits I had been doing until then, and i= t's still what we use, running on my old lab's machine at Columbia.= =C2=A0 That system is also showing its age.</div><div><br></div><div>As you= may remember, earlier this year McGill blocked external web access to the = Listserv as a security measure, eliminating the modest interface modernizat= ions that had been added to Listserv since the advent of the world wide web= . Many of you have since been caught out by the "confirmation link&quo= t; that you receive in response to posting, but which no longer works.=C2= =A0 Just this morning I found out (after 25 years!) how to change the text = of the confirmation message to eliminate this egregious misdirect.</div><di= v><br></div><div>However, it got me thinking about the future of AUDITORY.= =C2=A0 In particular, the current <a href=3D"http://www.auditory.org" targe= t=3D"_blank">www.auditory.org</a> machine at Columbia won't last for ev= er, and my leverage there has declined since I moved to Google.=C2=A0 I won= der if we should move the whole list to a more modern platform? I would of = course make sure the archives were preserved.</div><div><br></div><div>To m= e, Google Groups seems like the most obvious choice, but perhaps my perspec= tive is skewed.=C2=A0 What do you think about the idea of moving off the Mc= Gill listserv, and do you have other suggestions for a good replacement?</d= iv><div><br></div><div>Best,=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 DAn.</di= v></div> </blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g= mail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Graham = Voysey<br>Boston University College of Engineering<br>HRC Research Engineer= <br>Auditory Biophysics and Simulation Laboratory<br>ERB 413</div></div></d= iv> --0000000000002d4a630578add10d--