Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Maximum temporal window for pattern recognition and the perception of redundancy From: Alain de Cheveigne <alain.de.cheveigne@xxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 09:47:06 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>Hi Dario,=20 Concerning the second question you might want to look up work by Josh = McDermott, for example https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23434915, see = also the commentary by myself and Eli Nelken: = https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23528936 (pdf on request). Concerning the first, in addition to the other excellent suggestions = made on the list, you might look up Trevor Agus=E2=80=99s paper on = memory of noise: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20510864. Best, Alain > On 1 Feb 2017, at 14:40, Dario Sanfilippo <sanfilippo.dario@xxxxxxxx> = wrote: >=20 > Hello, dear list. >=20 > I would like to ask you a couple of questions and I will be very = grateful if you could help me. It would be great to be pointed out to = specific publications, thank you so much in advance for that. >=20 > The first question is on the maximum temporal window for the = recognition of patterns in long-term audio events. Generally speaking, = what is the largest (temporal) distance between audio events so that we = can still process such events as interrelated? As an example, let's = assume to have a sequence of different pitches equally spaced in time; = what is the largest possible distance between them to still be able to = perceive a melody? >=20 > The second question is on the perception of redundancy in relatively = complex (i.e., dynamical equilibrium) long-term audio events. As an = example, think of the sound of the sea: its internal structure is never = the same although it keeps a strong identity from a global point of = view. I believe that this is highly dependent on both the cultural = background of the listener as well as the degree of complexity of the = audio event itself, but is there any study which tries to relate the = perception of redundancy (i.e., the moment in which the listener's = attention drops) with a specific temporal window? And is there a = connection or similarity between this window and the one described in my = first question? >=20 > Thank you and best wishes. >=20 > Dario