Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Offstage instruments From: Braxton Boren <bbboren@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:53:28 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--001a113fbc0268eec3055977e80e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" In Verdi's Requiem, the Dies Irae includes four offstage trumpets sounding the call to the last judgment, which then play along with the rest of the orchestra. --Braxton On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 5:57 AM AUDITORY automatic digest system < LISTSERV@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 05:48:21 -0400 > Reply-To: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception < > AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> > Sender: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception < > AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> > From: AUDITORY automatic digest system <LISTSERV@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: AUDITORY Digest - 17 Sep 2017 to 18 Sep 2017 - Special issue > (#2017-244) > To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <AUDITORY%201709180548217120.6452@xxxxxxxx> > Precedence: list > List-Help: <http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>, <mailto: > LISTSERV@xxxxxxxx?body=INFO%20AUDITORY> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:AUDITORY-unsubscribe-request@xxxxxxxx> > List-Subscribe: <mailto:AUDITORY-subscribe-request@xxxxxxxx> > List-Owner: <mailto:AUDITORY-request@xxxxxxxx> > List-Archive: <http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > There are 3 messages totaling 1467 lines in this issue. > > Topics in this special issue: > > 1. Offstage instruments (3) > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:27:46 +0000 > From: Renee Timmers <r.timmers@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Offstage instruments > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="94eb2c19dc88db54220559694ce6" > > --94eb2c19dc88db54220559694ce6 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="94eb2c19dc88db541f0559694ce5" > > --94eb2c19dc88db541f0559694ce5 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > In Gluck's Orfeo ed Euridice, 2 chalumeaus and a few strings are playing > off stage. > I have not checked this information, but have been told by a professional > musician, who I asked about this. > > Best, > Renee > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 05:46, Arun Chandra <arunc@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I'm glad that people mentioned Mahler symphonies, but there's also his > > very first orchestral composition "Das Klagende Lied", which has an > > entire orchestra and chorus offstage. > > > > And his 2nd symphony, in addition to having instruments offstage, also > > has an offstage chorus. > > > > arun > > > > On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berger wrote: > > > and on a very different note - Turandot which has saxophone and organ > > > backstage - an amazing timbre effect. > > > - jonathan > > > > > > --- > > > Jonathan Berger > > > The Denning Family Provostial Professor in Music > > > Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education > > > Stanford University > > > > > > http://jonathanberger.net > > > > > > On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pierre Divenyi wrote: > > >> I would definitely add John Cage's_ __4'33" ._ > > >> > > >> Pierre Divenyi > > >> > > >> On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote: > > >> > > >>> Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the first movement > > >>> Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horns, trumpets) > > >>> and timpani in the last movement > > >>> Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part (The > > >>> Ascent /Der Anstieg) > > >>> > > >>> You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as Madama > > >>> Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a bocca chiusa" > > >>> there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir offstage. > > >>> > > >>> I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples. > > >>> > > >>> Good luck and keep us updated ! > > >>> > > >>> Victor ROSI > > >>> > > >>> 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen <nch@xxxxxxxx>: > > >>> > > >>>> Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-posting), > > >>>> > > >>>> For a research project at Ohio State University, School of Music, > > >>>> we are currently assembling a database of musical pieces in which > > >>>> composers call for one or more instruments to be played > > >>>> "offstage". > > >>>> > > >>>> Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire include: > > >>>> (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's Leonore > > >>>> Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage oboe in the third movement > > >>>> ("Sc=C3=A8ne aux champs") from Hector Berlioz' Symphonie > Fantastique= > , > > >>>> and (3) the offstage female choir in "Neptune" from Gustav Holst's > > >>>> The Planets. > > >>>> > > >>>> We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing our > > >>>> attention to as many other examples as possible that you may be > > >>>> aware of! > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks in advance, > > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron > > >>>> > > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow in Music > > >>>> Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology > > >>>> Laboratory<http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/ [1]> | School of > > >>>> Music<https://music.osu.edu/ [2]> | Ohio State > > >>>> University<https://www.osu.edu/ [3]> | > > >>>> hansen.491@xxxxxxxx<mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Links: > > >> ------ > > >> [1] http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/ > > >> [2] https://music.osu.edu/ > > >> [3] https://www.osu.edu/ > > > > -- > > Arun Chandra > > COM 308A > > The Evergreen State College > > Olympia, WA 98505 > > office: (360) 867-6077 > > email: arunc@xxxxxxxx > > > --=20 > > Dr Renee Timmers > Reader in Psychology of Music, Director of Graduate Studies > Department of Music, University of Sheffield > 34 Leavygreave Road, Sheffield S3 7RD > > Director of distance learning MAs in psychology of music > <http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/music/prospective-pg/distance-learning> > Vice President of the European Society for the Cognitive Sciences of Music > <http://www.escom.org/> > Music Mind Machine in Sheffield > < > http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/music/research/researchcentres/music-mind-machi= > ne> > > Now published: Routledge Companion to Music Cognition > < > https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Music-Cognition/Ashle= > y-Timmers/p/book/9781138721050 > <https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Music-Cognition/Ashle=y-Timmers/p/book/9781138721050> > > > > > http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199659647.do > > --94eb2c19dc88db541f0559694ce5 > Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <div><div dir=3D"auto">In Gluck's Orfeo ed Euridice, 2 chalumeaus and > a= > few strings are playing off stage.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">I have > not= > checked this information, but have been told by a professional musician, > w= > ho I asked about this.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div > dir=3D"a= > uto">Best,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Renee=C2=A0</div><div > dir=3D"auto"><br></= > div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 05:46, Arun > Chan= > dra <<a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a>> > = > wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 > .8e= > x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm glad that people > men= > tioned Mahler symphonies, but there's also his<br> > very first orchestral composition "Das Klagende Lied", which has > = > an<br> > entire orchestra and chorus offstage.<br> > <br> > And his 2nd symphony, in addition to having instruments offstage, also<br> > has an offstage chorus.<br> > <br> > arun<br> > <br> > On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berger wrote:<br> > > and on a very different note - Turandot which has saxophone and > organ<= > br> > > backstage - an amazing timbre effect.<br> > > - jonathan<br> > ><br> > > ---<br> > > Jonathan Berger<br> > > The Denning Family Provostial Professor in Music<br> > > Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education<br> > > Stanford University<br> > ><br> > > <a href=3D"http://jonathanberger.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" > target=3D"_bl= > ank">http://jonathanberger.net</a><br> > ><br> > > On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pierre Divenyi wrote:<br> > >> I would definitely add John Cage's_ __4'33" ._<br> > >><br> > >> Pierre Divenyi<br> > >><br> > >> On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote:<br> > >><br> > >>> Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the first > mov= > ement<br> > >>> Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horns, > tr= > umpets)<br> > >>> and timpani in the last movement<br> > >>> Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part > = > (The<br> > >>> Ascent /Der Anstieg)<br> > >>><br> > >>> You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as > Mada= > ma<br> > >>> Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a bocca > = > chiusa"<br> > >>> there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir > offstage.<br= > > > >>><br> > >>> I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples.<br> > >>><br> > >>> Good luck and keep us updated !<br> > >>><br> > >>> Victor ROSI<br> > >>><br> > >>> 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen <<a href= > =3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">nch@xxxxxxxx > </a>>:<br= > > > >>><br> > >>>> Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for > cross-posting),= > <br> > >>>><br> > >>>> For a research project at Ohio State University, School > of= > Music,<br> > >>>> we are currently assembling a database of musical pieces > i= > n which<br> > >>>> composers call for one or more instruments to be > played<br= > > > >>>> "offstage".<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire > inc= > lude:<br> > >>>> (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's > Leo= > nore<br> > >>>> Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage oboe in the > thi= > rd movement<br> > >>>> ("Sc=C3=A8ne aux champs") from Hector > Berlioz= > 9; Symphonie Fantastique,<br> > >>>> and (3) the offstage female choir in "Neptune" > f= > rom Gustav Holst's<br> > >>>> The Planets.<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing > ou= > r<br> > >>>> attention to as many other examples as possible that you > m= > ay be<br> > >>>> aware of!<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Thanks in advance,<br> > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow > i= > n Music<br> > >>>> Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology<br> > >>>> Laboratory<<a href=3D"http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/" > = > rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/</a> > [1= > ]> | School of<br> > >>>> Music<<a href=3D"https://music.osu.edu/" > rel=3D"norefer= > rer" target=3D"_blank">https://music.osu.edu/</a> [2]> | Ohio State<br> > >>>> University<<a href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" > rel=3D"nore= > ferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.osu.edu/</a> [3]> |<br> > >>>> <a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" > target=3D"_blank">ha= > nsen.491@xxxxxxxx</a><mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" > target= > =3D"_blank">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> > >><br> > >><br> > >><br> > >> Links:<br> > >> ------<br> > >> [1] <a href=3D"http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/" > rel=3D"noreferrer"= > target=3D"_blank">http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/</a><br> > >> [2] <a href=3D"https://music.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target= > =3D"_blank">https://music.osu.edu/</a><br> > >> [3] <a href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" > target=3D"= > _blank">https://www.osu.edu/</a><br> > <br> > --<br> > Arun Chandra<br> > COM 308A<br> > The Evergreen State College<br> > Olympia, WA 98505<br> > office: (360) 867-6077<br> > email: <a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx" > target=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx= > reen.edu</a><br> > </blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-- <br></div><div > class=3D"gmail_= > signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div > di= > r=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div > dir=3D"ltr"= > ><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div > dir=3D"ltr"><div><di= > v dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div > dir=3D"= > ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>Dr > Re= > nee Timmers</div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">Reader > i= > n 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instruments > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="------------D4FFBA8B94F9092212725EAF" > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------D4FFBA8B94F9092212725EAF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by > edgeum1.it.mcgill.ca id v8I97SQd031638 > > There's an offstage guitar in Berlioz's /*B=C3=A9atrice et B=C3=A9n=C3=A9= > dict*/ which=20 > later appears again from the orchestra pit. > > Best, > > Ian Cross > > > On 17/09/2017 22:27, Renee Timmers wrote: > > In Gluck's Orfeo ed Euridice, 2 chalumeaus and a few strings are=20 > > playing off stage. > > I have not checked this information, but have been told by a=20 > > professional musician, who I asked about this. > > > > Best, > > Renee > > > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 05:46, Arun Chandra <arunc@xxxxxxxx=20 > > <mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > > > I'm glad that people mentioned Mahler symphonies, but there's also = > his > > very first orchestral composition "Das Klagende Lied", which has an > > entire orchestra and chorus offstage. > > > > And his 2nd symphony, in addition to having instruments offstage, a= > lso > > has an offstage chorus. > > > > arun > > > > On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berger wrote: > > > and on a very different note - Turandot which has saxophone and > > organ > > > backstage - an amazing timbre effect. > > > - jonathan > > > > > > --- > > > Jonathan Berger > > > The Denning Family Provostial Professor in Music > > > Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education > > > Stanford University > > > > > > http://jonathanberger.net > > > > > > On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pierre Divenyi wrote: > > >> I would definitely add John Cage's_ __4'33" ._ > > >> > > >> Pierre Divenyi > > >> > > >> On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote: > > >> > > >>> Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the first movement > > >>> Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horns, trumpet= > s) > > >>> and timpani in the last movement > > >>> Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part (= > The > > >>> Ascent /Der Anstieg) > > >>> > > >>> You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as Madama > > >>> Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a bocca chiusa= > " > > >>> there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir offstage. > > >>> > > >>> I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples. > > >>> > > >>> Good luck and keep us updated ! > > >>> > > >>> Victor ROSI > > >>> > > >>> 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen > > <nch@xxxxxxxx <mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx>>: > > >>> > > >>>> Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-posting), > > >>>> > > >>>> For a research project at Ohio State University, School of Mus= > ic, > > >>>> we are currently assembling a database of musical pieces in wh= > ich > > >>>> composers call for one or more instruments to be played > > >>>> "offstage". > > >>>> > > >>>> Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire include= > : > > >>>> (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's Leonore > > >>>> Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage oboe in the third movem= > ent > > >>>> ("Sc=C3=A8ne aux champs") from Hector Berlioz' Symphonie Fanta= > stique, > > >>>> and (3) the offstage female choir in "Neptune" from Gustav > > Holst's > > >>>> The Planets. > > >>>> > > >>>> We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing our > > >>>> attention to as many other examples as possible that you may b= > e > > >>>> aware of! > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks in advance, > > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron > > >>>> > > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow in Mu= > sic > > >>>> Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology > > >>>> Laboratory<http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/ [1]> | School of > > >>>> Music<https://music.osu.edu/ [2]> | Ohio State > > >>>> University<https://www.osu.edu/ [3]> | > > >>>> hansen.491@xxxxxxxx > > <mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx><mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx > > <mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Links: > > >> ------ > > >> [1] http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/ > > >> [2] https://music.osu.edu/ > > >> [3] https://www.osu.edu/ > > > > -- > > Arun Chandra > > COM 308A > > The Evergreen State College > > Olympia, WA 98505 > > office: (360) 867-6077 > > email: arunc@xxxxxxxx <mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx> > > > > --=20 > > > > Dr Renee Timmers > > Reader in Psychology of Music, Director of Graduate Studies > > Department of Music, University of Sheffield > > 34 Leavygreave Road, Sheffield S3 7RD > > > > Director of distance learning MAs in psychology of music=20 > > <http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/music/prospective-pg/distance-learning> > > Vice President of the European Society for the Cognitive Sciences of=20 > > Music <http://www.escom.org/> > > Music Mind Machine in Sheffield=20 > > <http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/music/research/researchcentres/music-mind-m= > achine> > > > > Now published: Routledge Companion to Music Cognition=20 > > <https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Music-Cognition/A= > shley-Timmers/p/book/9781138721050 > <https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Music-Cognition/A=shley-Timmers/p/book/9781138721050> > > > > > > > > http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199659647.do > > --=20 > Professor Ian Cross > Director, Centre for Music & Science > Faculty of Music > University of Cambridge > Cambridge CB3 9DP > www.cam.ac.uk/~cross > > > --------------D4FFBA8B94F9092212725EAF > Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by > edgeum1.it.mcgill.ca id v8I97SQd031638 > > <html> > <head> > <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf= > -8"> > </head> > <body text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> > <p><font face=3D"Arial">There's an offstage guitar in Berlioz's </fon= > t><i><b>B=C3=A9atrice > et B=C3=A9n=C3=A9dict</b></i> which later appears again from th= > e > orchestra pit.</p> > <p>Best,</p> > <p>Ian Cross<br> > </p> > <br> > <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 17/09/2017 22:27, Renee Timmers > wrote:<br> > </div> > <blockquote type=3D"cite" > cite=3D"mid:3504_1505723019_59BF828A_3504_910_1_CALMFsMT-3dF7fmyM_GcpWiyN= > xRQh5OgX+HTecYU=3DF6kbQEJovg@xxxxxxxx"> > <div> > <div dir=3D"auto">In Gluck's Orfeo ed Euridice, 2 chalumeaus and = > a > few strings are playing off stage.=C2=A0</div> > <div dir=3D"auto">I have not checked this information, but have > been told by a professional musician, who I asked about this.=C2= > =A0</div> > <div dir=3D"auto"><br> > </div> > <div dir=3D"auto">Best,</div> > <div dir=3D"auto">Renee=C2=A0</div> > <div dir=3D"auto"><br> > </div> > <div class=3D"gmail_quote"> > <div>On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 05:46, Arun Chandra <<a > href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx" moz-do-not-send=3D"true= > ">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a>> > wrote:<br> > </div> > <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 > .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm glad > that people mentioned Mahler symphonies, but there's also > his<br> > very first orchestral composition "Das Klagende Lied", which > has an<br> > entire orchestra and chorus offstage.<br> > <br> > And his 2nd symphony, in addition to having instruments > offstage, also<br> > has an offstage chorus.<br> > <br> > arun<br> > <br> > On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berger wrote:<br> > > and on a very different note - Turandot which has > saxophone and organ<br> > > backstage - an amazing timbre effect.<br> > > - jonathan<br> > ><br> > > ---<br> > > Jonathan Berger<br> > > The Denning Family Provostial Professor in Music<br> > > Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education<br> > > Stanford University<br> > ><br> > > <a href=3D"http://jonathanberger.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" > target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">http://jonathanb= > erger.net</a><br> > ><br> > > On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pierre Divenyi wrote:<br> > >> I would definitely add John Cage's_ __4'33" ._<br> > >><br> > >> Pierre Divenyi<br> > >><br> > >> On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote:<br> > >><br> > >>> Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in > the first movement<br> > >>> Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble > (horns, trumpets)<br> > >>> and timpani in the last movement<br> > >>> Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in > the third part (The<br> > >>> Ascent /Der Anstieg)<br> > >>><br> > >>> You also have this kind of effects in Opera's > such as Madama<br> > >>> Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act > "Coro a bocca chiusa"<br> > >>> there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir > offstage.<br> > >>><br> > >>> I hope I helped, i'll try to find other > examples.<br> > >>><br> > >>> Good luck and keep us updated !<br> > >>><br> > >>> Victor ROSI<br> > >>><br> > >>> 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian > Hansen <<a href=3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_bla= > nk" > moz-do-not-send=3D"true">nch@xxxxxxxx</a>>:<br> > >>><br> > >>>> Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for > cross-posting),<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> For a research project at Ohio State > University, School of Music,<br> > >>>> we are currently assembling a database of > musical pieces in which<br> > >>>> composers call for one or more instruments > to be played<br> > >>>> "offstage".<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Classic examples from the Western symphonic > repertoire include:<br> > >>>> (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van > Beethoven's Leonore<br> > >>>> Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage > oboe in the third movement<br> > >>>> ("Sc=C3=A8ne aux champs") from Hector Berlio= > z' > Symphonie Fantastique,<br> > >>>> and (3) the offstage female choir in > "Neptune" from Gustav Holst's<br> > >>>> The Planets.<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> We would be very grateful for your kind > help in drawing our<br> > >>>> attention to as many other examples as > possible that you may be<br> > >>>> aware of!<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Thanks in advance,<br> > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | > Postdoctoral Fellow in Music<br> > >>>> Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic > Musicology<br> > >>>> Laboratory<<a > href=3D"http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" > target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">http://musiccog.= > ohio-state.edu/</a> > [1]> | School of<br> > >>>> Music<<a href=3D"https://music.osu.edu/" > rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"tru= > e">https://music.osu.edu/</a> > [2]> | Ohio State<br> > >>>> University<<a > href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" > target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://www.osu.= > edu/</a> > [3]> |<br> > >>>> <a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" > target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx= > du</a><mailto:<a > href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank" > moz-do-not-send=3D"true">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> > >><br> > >><br> > >><br> > >> Links:<br> > >> ------<br> > >> [1] <a href=3D"http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/" > rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"tru= > e">http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/</a><br> > >> [2] <a href=3D"https://music.osu.edu/" > rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"tru= > e">https://music.osu.edu/</a><br> > >> [3] <a href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" > rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"tru= > e">https://www.osu.edu/</a><br> > <br> > --<br> > Arun Chandra<br> > COM 308A<br> > The Evergreen State College<br> > Olympia, WA 98505<br> > office: (360) 867-6077<br> > email: <a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blan= > k" > moz-do-not-send=3D"true">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a><br> > </blockquote> > </div> > </div> > <div dir=3D"ltr">-- <br> > </div> > <div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"> > <div dir=3D"ltr"> > <div> > <div dir=3D"ltr"> > <div> > <div dir=3D"ltr"> > <div> > <div dir=3D"ltr"> > <div> > <div dir=3D"ltr"> > <div> > <div dir=3D"ltr"> > <div> > <div dir=3D"ltr"> > <div> > <div dir=3D"ltr"> > 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Offstage instruments (3)<br> Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:27:46 +0000<br> From:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Renee Timmers <<a href=3D"mailto:r.timmers@xxxxxxxx= AC.UK" target=3D"_blank">r.timmers@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> Subject: Re: Offstage instruments<br> MIME-Version: 1.0<br> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=3D"94eb2c19dc88db54220559694= ce6"<br> <br> --94eb2c19dc88db54220559694ce6<br> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=3D"94eb2c19dc88db541f055= 9694ce5"<br> <br> --94eb2c19dc88db541f0559694ce5<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8"<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br> <br> In Gluck's Orfeo ed Euridice, 2 chalumeaus and a few strings are playin= g<br> off stage.<br> I have not checked this information, but have been told by a professional<b= r> musician, who I asked about this.<br> <br> Best,<br> Renee<br> <br> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 05:46, Arun Chandra <<a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx= green.edu" target=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > I'm glad that people mentioned Mahler symphonies, but there's = also his<br> > very first orchestral composition "Das Klagende Lied", which= has an<br> > entire orchestra and chorus offstage.<br> ><br> > And his 2nd symphony, in addition to having instruments offstage, also= <br> > has an offstage chorus.<br> ><br> > arun<br> ><br> > On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berger wrote:<br> > > and on a very different note - Turandot which has saxophone and o= rgan<br> > > backstage - an amazing timbre effect.<br> > > - jonathan<br> > ><br> > > ---<br> > > Jonathan Berger<br> > > The Denning Family Provostial Professor in Music<br> > > Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education<br> > > Stanford University<br> > ><br> > > <a href=3D"http://jonathanberger.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target= =3D"_blank">http://jonathanberger.net</a><br> > ><br> > > On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pierre Divenyi wrote:<br> > >> I would definitely add John Cage's_ __4'33" ._<b= r> > >><br> > >> Pierre Divenyi<br> > >><br> > >> On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote:<br> > >><br> > >>> Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the firs= t movement<br> > >>> Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horn= s, trumpets)<br> > >>> and timpani in the last movement<br> > >>> Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third = part (The<br> > >>> Ascent /Der Anstieg)<br> > >>><br> > >>> You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as= Madama<br> > >>> Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a b= occa chiusa"<br> > >>> there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir offstag= e.<br> > >>><br> > >>> I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples.<br> > >>><br> > >>> Good luck and keep us updated !<br> > >>><br> > >>> Victor ROSI<br> > >>><br> > >>> 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen <<a h= ref=3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">nch@xxxxxxxx</a>>:= <br> > >>><br> > >>>> Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-post= ing),<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> For a research project at Ohio State University, Scho= ol of Music,<br> > >>>> we are currently assembling a database of musical pie= ces in which<br> > >>>> composers call for one or more instruments to be play= ed<br> > >>>> "offstage".<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoir= e include:<br> > >>>> (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven'= s Leonore<br> > >>>> Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage oboe in th= e third movement<br> > >>>> ("Sc=3DC3=3DA8ne aux champs") from Hector B= erlioz' Symphonie Fantastique=3D<br> ,<br> > >>>> and (3) the offstage female choir in "Neptune&qu= ot; from Gustav Holst's<br> > >>>> The Planets.<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawi= ng our<br> > >>>> attention to as many other examples as possible that = you may be<br> > >>>> aware of!<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Thanks in advance,<br> > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fel= low in Music<br> > >>>> Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology<br> > >>>> Laboratory<<a href=3D"http://musiccog.ohio-state.e= du/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/</= a> [1]> | School of<br> > >>>> Music<<a href=3D"https://music.osu.edu/" rel=3D"no= referrer" target=3D"_blank">https://music.osu.edu/</a> [2]> | Ohio State= <br> > >>>> University<<a href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" rel=3D= "noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.osu.edu/</a> [3]> |<br> > >>>> <a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blan= k">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a><mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" t= arget=3D"_blank">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> > >><br> > >><br> > >><br> > >> Links:<br> > >> ------<br> > >> [1] <a href=3D"http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/" rel=3D"norefe= rrer" target=3D"_blank">http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/</a><br> > >> [2] <a href=3D"https://music.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar= get=3D"_blank">https://music.osu.edu/</a><br> > >> [3] <a href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe= t=3D"_blank">https://www.osu.edu/</a><br> ><br> > --<br> > Arun Chandra<br> > COM 308A<br> > The Evergreen State College<br> > Olympia, WA 98505<br> > office: <a href=3D"tel:(360)%20867-6077" value=3D"+13608676077" target= =3D"_blank">(360) 867-6077</a><br> > email: <a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx= evergreen.edu</a><br> ><br> --=3D20<br> <br> Dr Renee Timmers<br> Reader in Psychology of Music, Director of Graduate Studies<br> Department of Music, University of Sheffield<br> 34 Leavygreave Road, Sheffield S3 7RD<br> <br> Director of distance learning MAs in psychology of music<br> <<a href=3D"http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/music/prospective-pg/distance-lea= rning" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/musi= c/prospective-pg/distance-learning</a>><br> Vice President of the European Society for the Cognitive Sciences of Music<= br> <<a href=3D"http://www.escom.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">= http://www.escom.org/</a>><br> Music Mind Machine in Sheffield<br> <<a href=3D"http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/music/research/researchcentres/mu= sic-mind-machi=3D" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sheffiel= d.ac.uk/music/research/researchcentres/music-mind-machi=3D</a><br> ne><br> <br> Now published: Routledge Companion to Music Cognition<br> <<a href=3D"https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Music-C= ognition/Ashle=3Dy-Timmers/p/book/9781138721050" rel=3D"noreferrer" target= =3D"_blank">https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Music-Cogn= ition/Ashle=3D<br> y-Timmers/p/book/9781138721050</a>><br> <br> <br> <a href=3D"http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199659647.do" rel=3D"nore= ferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199659647.= do</a><br> <br> --94eb2c19dc88db541f0559694ce5<br> Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8"<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br> <br> <div><div dir=3D3D"auto">In Gluck&#39;s Orfeo ed = Euridice, 2 chalumeaus and a=3D<br> =C2=A0few strings are playing off stage.=3DC2=3DA0</div><div dir= =3D3D"auto">I have not=3D<br> =C2=A0checked this information, but have been told by a professional musici= an, w=3D<br> ho I asked about this.=3DC2=3DA0</div><div dir=3D3D"auto"= ;><br></div><div dir=3D3D"a=3D<br> uto">Best,</div><div dir=3D3D"auto">Renee=3DC= 2=3DA0</div><div dir=3D3D"auto"><br></=3D<br= > div><div class=3D3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, 17 S= ep 2017 at 05:46, Arun Chan=3D<br> dra &lt;<a href=3D3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx= du" target=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:ar= unc@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a></a>&= gt; =3D<br> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D3D"gmail_quote"= ; style=3D3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=3D<br> x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I&#39;m glad tha= t people men=3D<br> tioned Mahler symphonies, but there&#39;s also his<br><br> very first orchestral composition &quot;Das Klagende Lied&quot;, wh= ich has =3D<br> an<br><br> entire orchestra and chorus offstage.<br><br> <br><br> And his 2nd symphony, in addition to having instruments offstage, also<b= r><br> has an offstage chorus.<br><br> <br><br> arun<br><br> <br><br> On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berger wrote:<br><br> &gt; and on a very different note - Turandot which has saxophone and or= gan<=3D<br> br><br> &gt; backstage - an amazing timbre effect.<br><br> &gt; - jonathan<br><br> &gt;<br><br> &gt; ---<br><br> &gt; Jonathan Berger<br><br> &gt; The Denning Family Provostial Professor in Music<br><br> &gt; Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education<br><br> &gt; Stanford University<br><br> &gt;<br><br> &gt; <a href=3D3D"<a href=3D"http://jonathanberger.net" rel=3D"= noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://jonathanberger.net</a>" rel=3D3D&= quot;noreferrer" target=3D3D"_bl=3D<br> ank"><a href=3D"http://jonathanberger.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe= t=3D"_blank">http://jonathanberger.net</a></a><br><br> &gt;<br><br> &gt; On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pierre Divenyi wrote:<br><br> &gt;&gt; I would definitely add John Cage&#39;s_ __4&#39;33= &quot; ._<br><br> &gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt; Pierre Divenyi<br><br> &gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt; On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote:<br><br> &gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; Mahler&#39;s 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets = in the first mov=3D<br> ement<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; Mahler&#39;s 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ens= emble (horns, tr=3D<br> umpets)<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; and timpani in the last movement<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the= third part =3D<br> (The<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; Ascent /Der Anstieg)<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; You also have this kind of effects in Opera&#3= 9;s such as Mada=3D<br> ma<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act &qu= ot;Coro a bocca =3D<br> chiusa&quot;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; there is a viola d&#39;amore playing with a ch= oir offstage.<br=3D<br> ><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; I hope I helped, i&#39;ll try to find other ex= amples.<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; Good luck and keep us updated !<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; Victor ROSI<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt; 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen &= amp;lt;<a href=3D<br> =3D3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">nch= @xxxxxxxx</a>" target=3D3D"_blank"><a href=3D"mailto:= nch@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">nch@xxxxxxxx</a></a>&gt;:= <br=3D<br> ><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for= cross-posting),=3D<br> <br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; For a research project at Ohio State Unive= rsity, School of=3D<br> =C2=A0Music,<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; we are currently assembling a database of = musical pieces i=3D<br> n which<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; composers call for one or more instruments= to be played<br=3D<br> ><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;offstage&quot;.<br><br= > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Classic examples from the Western symphoni= c repertoire inc=3D<br> lude:<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Bee= thoven&#39;s Leo=3D<br> nore<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Overtures Nos. 2 &amp; 3, (2) the offs= tage oboe in the thi=3D<br> rd movement<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (&quot;Sc=3DC3=3DA8ne aux champs&q= uot;) from Hector Berlioz&#3=3D<br> 9; Symphonie Fantastique,<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and (3) the offstage female choir in &= quot;Neptune&quot; f=3D<br> rom Gustav Holst&#39;s<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The Planets.<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We would be very grateful for your kind he= lp in drawing ou=3D<br> r<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; attention to as many other examples as pos= sible that you m=3D<br> ay be<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; aware of!<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks in advance,<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Niels Chr. Hansen &amp; David Huron<= ;br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postd= octoral Fellow i=3D<br> n Music<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Music= ology<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Laboratory&lt;<a href=3D3D"<a = href=3D"http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan= k">http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/</a>" =3D<br> rel=3D3D"noreferrer" target=3D3D"_blank"><a href=3D"= http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http:= //musiccog.ohio-state.edu/</a></a> [1=3D<br> ]&gt; | School of<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Music&lt;<a href=3D3D"<a href= =3D"https://music.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://mu= sic.osu.edu/</a>" rel=3D3D"norefer=3D<br> rer" target=3D3D"_blank"><a href=3D"https://music.osu.edu= /" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://music.osu.edu/</a></a>= ; [2]&gt; | Ohio State<br><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; University&lt;<a href=3D3D"<a = href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://= www.osu.edu/</a>" 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by <a href=3D"http://ed= geum1.it.mcgill.ca" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">edgeum1.it.mcgill.= ca</a> id v8I97SQd031638<br> <br> There's an offstage guitar in Berlioz's /*B=3DC3=3DA9atrice et B=3D= C3=3DA9n=3DC3=3DA9=3D<br> dict*/ which=3D20<br> later appears again from the orchestra pit.<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> Ian Cross<br> <br> <br> On 17/09/2017 22:27, Renee Timmers wrote:<br> > In Gluck's Orfeo ed Euridice, 2 chalumeaus and a few strings are= =3D20<br> > playing off stage.<br> > I have not checked this information, but have been told by a=3D20<br> > professional musician, who I asked about this.<br> ><br> > Best,<br> > Renee<br> ><br> > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 05:46, Arun Chandra <<a href=3D"mailto:arunc= @xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a>=3D20<br> > <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">ar= unc@xxxxxxxx</a>>> wrote:<br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm glad that people mentioned Mahler symphonie= s, but there's also =3D<br> his<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0very first orchestral composition "Das Klagend= e Lied", which has an<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0entire orchestra and chorus offstage.<br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0And his 2nd symphony, in addition to having instrum= ents offstage, a=3D<br> lso<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0has an offstage chorus.<br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0arun<br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berger wrote:<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> and on a very different note - Turandot which = has saxophone and<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0organ<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> backstage - an amazing timbre effect.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> - jonathan<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> ---<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Jonathan Berger<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> The Denning Family Provostial Professor in Mus= ic<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Educat= ion<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Stanford University<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> <a href=3D"http://jonathanberger.net" rel=3D"n= oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://jonathanberger.net</a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pierre Divenyi wrote:<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> I would definitely add John Cage's_ __= 4'33" ._<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Pierre Divenyi<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote:<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage t= rumpets in the first movement<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage b= rass ensemble (horns, trumpet=3D<br> s)<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> and timpani in the last movement<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ens= emble in the third part (=3D<br> The<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Ascent /Der Anstieg)<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> You also have this kind of effects in = Opera's such as Madama<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second= Act "Coro a bocca chiusa=3D<br> "<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> there is a viola d'amore playing w= ith a choir offstage.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> I hope I helped, i'll try to find = other examples.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Good luck and keep us updated !<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Victor ROSI<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christ= ian Hansen<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<a href=3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_= blank">nch@xxxxxxxx</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" = target=3D"_blank">nch@xxxxxxxx</a>>>:<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> Dear collective wisdom (with apolo= gies for cross-posting),<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> For a research project at Ohio Sta= te University, School of Mus=3D<br> ic,<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> we are currently assembling a data= base of musical pieces in wh=3D<br> ich<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> composers call for one or more ins= truments to be played<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> "offstage".<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> Classic examples from the Western = symphonic repertoire include=3D<br> :<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig= van Beethoven's Leonore<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the = offstage oboe in the third movem=3D<br> ent<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> ("Sc=3DC3=3DA8ne aux champs&q= uot;) from Hector Berlioz' Symphonie Fanta=3D<br> stique,<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> and (3) the offstage female choir = in "Neptune" from Gustav<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Holst's<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> The Planets.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> We would be very grateful for your= kind help in drawing our<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> attention to as many other example= s as possible that you may b=3D<br> e<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> aware of!<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> Thanks in advance,<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huro= n<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus)= | Postdoctoral Fellow in Mu=3D<br> sic<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> Cognition | Cognitive and Systemat= ic Musicology<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> Laboratory<<a href=3D"http://mu= siccog.ohio-state.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://musicco= g.ohio-state.edu/</a> [1]> | School of<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> Music<<a href=3D"https://music.= osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://music.osu.edu/</a> [= 2]> | Ohio State<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> University<<a href=3D"https://w= ww.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.osu.edu/</a> = [3]> |<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> <a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx= du" target=3D"_blank">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" ta= rget=3D"_blank">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a>><mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:hans= en.491@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" ta= rget=3D"_blank">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a>>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Links:<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> ------<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> [1] <a href=3D"http://musiccog.ohio-state.= edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/<= /a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> [2] <a href=3D"https://music.osu.edu/" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://music.osu.edu/</a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> [3] <a href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.osu.edu/</a><br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Arun Chandra<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0COM 308A<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The Evergreen State College<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Olympia, WA 98505<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0office: <a href=3D"tel:(360)%20867-6077" value=3D"+= 13608676077" target=3D"_blank">(360) 867-6077</a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0email: <a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx" targe= t=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx= rgreen.edu" target=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> ><br> > --=3D20<br> ><br> > Dr Renee Timmers<br> > Reader in Psychology of Music, Director of Graduate Studies<br> > Department of Music, University of Sheffield<br> > 34 Leavygreave Road, Sheffield S3 7RD<br> ><br> > Director of distance learning MAs in psychology of music=3D20<br> > <<a href=3D"http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/music/prospective-pg/distanc= e-learning" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sheffield.ac.uk= /music/prospective-pg/distance-learning</a>><br> > Vice President of the European Society for the Cognitive Sciences of= =3D20<br> > Music <<a href=3D"http://www.escom.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.escom.org/</a>><br> > Music Mind Machine in Sheffield=3D20<br> > <<a href=3D"http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/music/research/researchcentr= es/music-mind-m=3D" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sheffie= ld.ac.uk/music/research/researchcentres/music-mind-m=3D</a><br> achine><br> ><br> > Now published: Routledge Companion to Music Cognition=3D20<br> > <<a href=3D"https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Mu= sic-Cognition/A=3Dshley-Timmers/p/book/9781138721050" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta= rget=3D"_blank">https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Music-= Cognition/A=3D<br> shley-Timmers/p/book/9781138721050</a>><br> ><br> ><br> > <a href=3D"http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199659647.do" rel=3D= "noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/978019965= 9647.do</a><br> <br> --=3D20<br> Professor Ian Cross<br> Director, Centre for Music & Science<br> Faculty of Music<br> University of Cambridge<br> Cambridge CB3 9DP<br> <a href=3D"http://www.cam.ac.uk/~cross" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank= ">www.cam.ac.uk/~cross</a><br> <br> <br> --------------D4FFBA8B94F9092212725EAF<br> Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8<br> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by <a href=3D"http://ed= geum1.it.mcgill.ca" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">edgeum1.it.mcgill.= ca</a> id v8I97SQd031638<br> <br> <html><br> =C2=A0 <head><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <meta http-equiv=3D3D"Content-Type" content=3D3D= "text/html; charset=3D3Dutf=3D<br> -8"><br> =C2=A0 </head><br> =C2=A0 <body text=3D3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D3D"#FFFFFF"= ;><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <p><font face=3D3D"Arial">There's a= n offstage guitar in Berlioz's </fon=3D<br> t><i><b>B=3DC3=3DA9atrice<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 et B=3DC3=3DA9n=3DC3=3DA9dict</b>&= lt;/i> which later appears again from th=3D<br> e<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 orchestra pit.</p><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <p>Best,</p><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <p>Ian Cross<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 </p><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div class=3D3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 17/09/201= 7 22:27, Renee Timmers<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 wrote:<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 </div><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <blockquote type=3D3D"cite"<br> cite=3D3D"mid:3504_1505723019_59BF828A_3504_910_1_CALMFsMT-3dF7fmyM_Gc= pWiyN=3D<br> xRQh5OgX+HTecYU=3D<a href=3D"mailto:3DF6kbQEJovg@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"= _blank">3DF6kbQEJovg@xxxxxxxx</a>"><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div dir=3D3D"auto">In Gluck= 9;s Orfeo ed Euridice, 2 chalumeaus and =3D<br> a<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 few strings are playing off stage.=3DC2= =3DA0</div><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div dir=3D3D"auto">I have not = checked this information, but have<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 been told by a professional musician, wh= o I asked about this.=3DC2=3D<br> =3DA0</div><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div dir=3D3D"auto"><br><= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 </div><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div dir=3D3D"auto">Best,</d= iv><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div dir=3D3D"auto">Renee=3DC2= =3DA0</div><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div dir=3D3D"auto"><br><= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 </div><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div class=3D3D"gmail_quote"><b= r> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <div>On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 05:46,= Arun Chandra &lt;<a<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 href=3D3D"mailto:<a h= ref=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx</a= >" moz-do-not-send=3D3D"true=3D<br> "><a href=3D"mailto:arunc@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">arunc@xxxxxxxx= ergreen.edu</a></a>&gt;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 wrote:<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 </div><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <blockquote class=3D3D"gmail_quo= te" style=3D3D"margin:0 0 0<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p= adding-left:1ex">I'm glad<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 that people mentioned Mahler symp= honies, but there's also<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 his<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 very first orchestral composition= "Das Klagende Lied", which<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 has an<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 entire orchestra and chorus offst= age.<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 And his 2nd symphony, in addition= to having instruments<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 offstage, also<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 has an offstage chorus.<br>= <br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 arun<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berg= er wrote:<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; and on a very different = note - Turandot which has<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 saxophone and organ<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; backstage - an amazing t= imbre effect.<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; - jonathan<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; ---<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Jonathan Berger<br>= ;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; The Denning Family Provo= stial Professor in Music<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Bass University Fellow i= n Undergraduate Education<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Stanford University<b= r><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <a href=3D3D"<a = href=3D"http://jonathanberger.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt= p://jonathanberger.net</a>" rel=3D3D"noreferrer"<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 target=3D3D"_blank&qu= ot; moz-do-not-send=3D3D"true"><a href=3D"http://jonathanb" re= l=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://jonathanb</a>=3D<br> <a href=3D"http://erger.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">erger.net= </a></a><br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pie= rre Divenyi wrote:<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt; I would definite= ly add John Cage's_ __4'33" ._<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt; Pierre Divenyi&l= t;br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt; On 9/15/17 1:02 = AM, Victor Rosi wrote:<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; Mahler&#= 39;s 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the first movement<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; Mahler&#= 39;s 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (horns, trumpets)<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; and timp= ani in the last movement<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; Alpen si= nfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the third part (The<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; Ascent /= Der Anstieg)<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>= ;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; You also= have this kind of effects in Opera's<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 such as Madama<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; Butterfl= y (G. Puccini) : in the second Act<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Coro a bocca chiusa"&l= t;br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; there is= a viola d'amore playing with a choir<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 offstage.<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>= ;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; I hope I= helped, i'll try to find other<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 examples.<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>= ;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; Good luc= k and keep us updated !<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>= ;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; Victor R= OSI<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>= ;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt; 2017-09-= 15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hansen &lt;<a href=3D3D&qu= ot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">nch@xxxxxxxx= ns.dk</a>" target=3D3D"_bla=3D<br> nk"<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 moz-do-not-send=3D3D"= true"><a href=3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">nch@xxxxxxxx= ikkons.dk</a></a>&gt;:<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>= ;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 cross-posting),<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&= lt;br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = For a research project at Ohio State<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 University, School of Music,<b= r><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = we are currently assembling a database of<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 musical pieces in which<br>= <br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = composers call for one or more instruments<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 to be played<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = "offstage".<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&= lt;br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = Classic examples from the Western symphonic<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 repertoire include:<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Beethoven's Leonore<br>= <br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = Overtures Nos. 2 &amp; 3, (2) the offstage<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 oboe in the third movement<br&= gt;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = ("Sc=3DC3=3DA8ne aux champs") from Hector Berlio=3D<br> z'<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Symphonie Fantastique,<br><= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = and (3) the offstage female choir in<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Neptune" from Gustav H= olst's<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = The Planets.<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&= lt;br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = We would be very grateful for your kind<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 help in drawing our<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = attention to as many other examples as<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 possible that you may be<br>= ;<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = aware of!<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&= lt;br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = Thanks in advance,<br><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; = Niels Chr. 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