Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Offstage instruments From: Arun Chandra <arunc@xxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:25:30 -0700 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>I'm glad that people mentioned Mahler symphonies, but there's also his=20 very first orchestral composition "Das Klagende Lied", which has an=20 entire orchestra and chorus offstage. And his 2nd symphony, in addition to having instruments offstage, also=20 has an offstage chorus. arun On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berger wrote: > and on a very different note - Turandot which has saxophone and organ=20 > backstage - an amazing timbre effect. > - jonathan >=20 > --- > Jonathan Berger > The Denning Family Provostial Professor in Music > Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education > Stanford University >=20 > http://jonathanberger.net >=20 > On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pierre Divenyi wrote: >> I would definitely add John Cage's_ __4'33" ._ >> >> Pierre Divenyi >> >> On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote: >> >>> Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the first movement >>> Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horns, trumpets) >>> and timpani in the last movement >>> Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part (The >>> Ascent /Der Anstieg) >>> >>> You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as Madama >>> Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a bocca chiusa" >>> there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir offstage. >>> >>> I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples. >>> >>> Good luck and keep us updated ! >>> >>> Victor ROSI >>> >>> 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen <nch@xxxxxxxx>: >>> >>>> Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-posting), >>>> >>>> For a research project at Ohio State University, School of Music, >>>> we are currently assembling a database of musical pieces in which >>>> composers call for one or more instruments to be played >>>> "offstage". >>>> >>>> Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire include: >>>> (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's Leonore >>>> Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage oboe in the third movement >>>> ("Sc=C3=A8ne aux champs") from Hector Berlioz' Symphonie Fantastique= , >>>> and (3) the offstage female choir in "Neptune" from Gustav Holst's >>>> The Planets. >>>> >>>> We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing our >>>> attention to as many other examples as possible that you may be >>>> aware of! >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron >>>> >>>> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow in Music >>>> Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology >>>> Laboratory<http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/ [1]> | School of >>>> Music<https://music.osu.edu/ [2]> | Ohio State >>>> University<https://www.osu.edu/ [3]> | >>>> hansen.491@xxxxxxxx<mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/ >> [2] https://music.osu.edu/ >> [3] https://www.osu.edu/ --=20 Arun Chandra COM 308A The Evergreen State College Olympia, WA 98505 office: (360) 867-6077 email: arunc@xxxxxxxx