Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Offstage instruments From: Pierre Divenyi <pdivenyi@xxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:06:33 -0700 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------30FC9464A7480AA4D893D739 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by edgeum2.it.mcgill.ca id v8FI82GN021370 I would definitely add John Cage's/**//4'33" ./ Pierre Divenyi On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote: > Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the first movement > Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horns, trumpets) and=20 > timpani in the last movement > Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part (The=20 > Ascent /Der Anstieg) > > You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as Madama Butterfly=20 > (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a bocca chiusa" there is a=20 > viola d'amore playing with a choir offstage. > > I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples. > > Good luck and keep us updated ! > > Victor ROSI > > 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen <nch@xxxxxxxx=20 > <mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx>>: > > Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-posting), > > For a research project at Ohio State University, School of Music, > we are currently assembling a database of musical pieces in which > composers call for one or more instruments to be played "offstage". > > Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire include: > (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's Leonore > Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage oboe in the third movement > ("Sc=C3=A8ne aux champs") from Hector Berlioz' Symphonie Fantastiqu= e, > and (3) the offstage female choir in "Neptune" from Gustav Holst's > The Planets. > > We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing our > attention to as many other examples as possible that you may be > aware of! > > Thanks in advance, > Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron > > > > Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow in Music > Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology > Laboratory<http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/ > <http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/>> | School of > Music<https://music.osu.edu/> | Ohio State > University<https://www.osu.edu/ <https://www.osu.edu/>> | > hansen.491@xxxxxxxx > <mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx><mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx > <mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx>> > > --------------30FC9464A7480AA4D893D739 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by edgeum2.it.mcgill.ca id v8FI82GN021370 <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf= -8"> </head> <body text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> <p><font face=3D"Calibri">I would definitely add John Cage's<i><b> </= b></i><i>4'33" .</i></font></p> <p><font face=3D"Calibri">Pierre Divenyi</font><span style=3D"color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"><span><br> </span></span></p> <br> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote:= <br> </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:21191_1505463847_59BB8E27_21191_70_1_CAMkExZwu3EM0hEoQzA5Nno4= pk2NsjWdjfH4uUir7_OvHOX8t_g@xxxxxxxx"> <div dir=3D"ltr">Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the first movement=C2=A0 <div>Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horns, trumpets) and timpani in the last movement</div> <div>Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part (The Ascent /Der Anstieg)</div> <div><br> </div> <div>You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as Madama Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a bocca chiusa" there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir offstage.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Good luck and keep us updated !=C2=A0</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Victor ROSI</div> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">nch@xxxxxxxx</a>></span>:<b= r> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-posting),<br> <br> For a research project at Ohio State University, School of Music, we are currently assembling a database of musical pieces in which composers call for one or more instruments to be played "offstage".<br> <br> Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire include: (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's Leonore Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage oboe in the third movement ("Sc=C3=A8ne aux champs") from Hector Berl= ioz' Symphonie Fantastique, and (3) the offstage female choir in "Neptune" from Gustav Holst's The Planets.<br> <br> We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing our attention to as many other examples as possible that you may be aware of!<br> <br> Thanks in advance,<br> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron<br> <br> <br> <br> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow in Music Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology Laboratory<<a href=3D"http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"tru= e">http://musiccog.<wbr>ohio-state.edu/</a>> | School of Music<<a href=3D"https://music.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"tru= e">https://music.osu.edu/</a>> | Ohio State University<<a href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"tru= e">https://www.osu.<wbr>edu/</a>> | <a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a><mailto:<= a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" moz-do-not-send=3D"true"= >hans<wbr>en.491@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------30FC9464A7480AA4D893D739--