Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Offstage instruments From: Rick <ricknance@xxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 09:31:19 +0100 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--001a114316fcdae2e70559363896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mozart's Idomeneo - offstage horns during a storm. Not sure, but Check Star Child by George Crumb. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Victor Rosi <rosivictor2@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the first movement > Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horns, trumpets) and > timpani in the last movement > Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part (The Ascent > /Der Anstieg) > > You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as Madama Butterfly (G= . > Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a bocca chiusa" there is a viola d'amo= re > playing with a choir offstage. > > I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples. > > Good luck and keep us updated ! > > Victor ROSI > > 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen <nch@xxxxxxxx>: > >> Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-posting), >> >> For a research project at Ohio State University, School of Music, we are >> currently assembling a database of musical pieces in which composers cal= l >> for one or more instruments to be played "offstage". >> >> Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire include: (1) the >> offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's Leonore Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, >> (2) the offstage oboe in the third movement ("Sc=C3=A8ne aux champs") fr= om >> Hector Berlioz' Symphonie Fantastique, and (3) the offstage female choir= in >> "Neptune" from Gustav Holst's The Planets. >> >> We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing our attention to >> as many other examples as possible that you may be aware of! >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron >> >> >> >> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow in Music >> Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology Laboratory< >> http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/> | School of Music<https://music.osu.edu= /> >> | Ohio State University<https://www.osu.edu/> | hansen.491@xxxxxxxx >> <mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx> >> > > --=20 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rick Nance Leicester, UK RickNance.org --001a114316fcdae2e70559363896 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Mozart's Idomeneo - offstage horns during a storm.<br>= Not sure, but Check Star Child by George Crumb.</div><div class=3D"gmail_ex= tra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Victor= Rosi <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:rosivictor2@xxxxxxxx" target= =3D"_blank">rosivictor2@xxxxxxxx</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas= s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad= ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpe= ts in the first movement=C2=A0<div>Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage bra= ss ensemble (horns, trumpets) and timpani in the last movement</div><div>Al= pen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part (The Ascent /De= r Anstieg)</div><div><br></div><div>You also have this kind of effects in O= pera's such as Madama Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "= Coro a bocca chiusa" there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir= offstage.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope I helped, i'll try to find o= ther examples.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck and keep us updated !=C2= =A0</div><div><br></div><div>Victor ROSI</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext= ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christia= n Hansen <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:nch@xxxxxxxx" target= =3D"_blank">nch@xxxxxxxx</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_= quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1= ex">Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-posting),<br> <br> For a research project at Ohio State University, School of Music, we are cu= rrently assembling a database of musical pieces in which composers call for= one or more instruments to be played "offstage".<br> <br> Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire include: (1) the off= stage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's Leonore Overtures Nos. 2 & = 3, (2) the offstage oboe in the third movement ("Sc=C3=A8ne aux champs= ") from Hector Berlioz' Symphonie Fantastique, and (3) the offstag= e female choir in "Neptune" from Gustav Holst's The Planets.<= br> <br> We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing our attention to as= many other examples as possible that you may be aware of!<br> <br> Thanks in advance,<br> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron<br> <br> <br> <br> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow in Music Cognition= | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology Laboratory<<a href=3D"http://musi= ccog.ohio-state.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://musiccog.= ohi<wbr>o-state.edu/</a>> | School of Music<<a href=3D"https://music.= osu.edu/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://music.osu.edu/</a>&g= t; | Ohio State University<<a href=3D"https://www.osu.edu/" rel=3D"noref= errer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.osu.edu<wbr>/</a>> | <a href=3D"mai= lto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">hansen.491@xxxxxxxx</a><mailto:= <a href=3D"mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">hans<wbr>en.491@xxxxxxxx= .edu</a>><br> </blockquote></div><br></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class= =3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d= iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div d= ir=3D"ltr"><div>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>Rick Nance<br>Leices= ter, UK<br><br>RickNance.org<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><= /div></div></div></div> </div> --001a114316fcdae2e70559363896--