Subject: Re: Statistics for word rate in natural speech From: Gerry A Stefanatos <stefang@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:52:22 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>Hi all, I am also finding it very helpful to get this input from such diverse and widely read group of contributors. Thank-you. Here are a couple of other citations to add to the pile. Sandra Duchin and Edward Mysak (1987) DISFLUENCY AND RATE CHARACTERISTICS OF YOUNG ADULT, MIDDLE-AGED, AND OLDER MALES. Journal of Communication Disorders, 20, pgs 245-257. They calculated both syllables per second and words per minute in different age groups ranging from young adult to the elderly. Measurements were taken during conversation, picture description and oral reading. Not surprisingly, the rates varied across speaking measures. Oral reading was fastest, followed by conversation and finally picture description. All declined with age. (Note, included inter sentence pauses in the calculations.) The maximum speaking rate as indexed by syllables/second was evident in young adults during oral reading ( mean = 4.69, SD =.77). Average word rate/min was highest in young adults during oral reading (219.9, SD=37.1) decreasing to 182.7 (SD=17.2) during conversation. Also of potential interest, a fairly recent study using Chinese speakers and listeners suggested that speech remains readily intelligible until about 400 words per minute and then declines rapidly from 400 to 1200 words per minute (Du, Lin & Wang (2014), Effect of speech rate for sentences on speech intelligibility, IEEE, pgs 233-236) Gerry -- Gerry A. Stefanatos, D.Phil. Associate Professor Director, Cognitive Neurophysiology Lab Dept of Communication Science & Disorders Temple University 1301 N. 13th St. Philadelphia, PA, 19122. http://www.tuneurolab.com/ On 6/22/16, 5:00 AM, "AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception on behalf of Bruno L. Giordano" <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx on behalf of brungio@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Thank you all for the useful references and discussion! Another I found for speech rate (wpm) but also syllabic rate is this one: @xxxxxxxx{tauroza1990speech, title={Speech rates in british english}, author={Tauroza, Steve and Allison, Desmond}, journal={Applied linguistics}, volume={11}, number={1}, pages={90--105}, year={1990}, publisher={Am Assoc Appl Ling} } Best, Bruno On 21/06/2016 02:56, Kevin Austin wrote: > Thank you. > > In Dunn and White(1940) at the bottom of page 282, the article reads: > >>>> R.M.S. IN ONE-FOURTH-SECOND INTERVALS >>>> >>>> The one-eighth-second interval, used in the preceding work, was chosen as being of the same order of magnitude as the length of a syllable. > > I did not see the reference to ‘how’ this was determined. My reading of ‘order of magnitude’ is that this is a factor of ten. If my understanding is approximately correct, this would mean that rather than 125 ms being the length of a syllable, a syllable could be from about 65ms to 650ms in duration. > > My understanding of the article is that it is about peak and R.M.S. pressures in 125 ms intervals in 12 frequency bands up to 12kHz. > > > Kevin > > > > >> On 2016, Jun 20, at 7:33 AM, Christine Rankovic <rankovic@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Dunn and White (1940) is a classic report on speech measurements. They assumed 1/8-second as the length of a syllable for their classic measurements. >> >> The reference is: Dunn, H.K. and White, S.D. (1940). Statistical Measurements on Conversational Speech. Journal of the Acoustical Society of America 11:278-288. >> >> Christine Rankovic, PhD >> Speech and Hearing Scientist >> >> -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruno L. Giordano, PhD Institute of Neuroscience and Psychology 58 Hillhead Street, University of Glasgow Glasgow, G12 8QB, Scotland T +44 (0) 141 330 5484 Www: http://www.brunolgiordano.net Email charter: http://www.emailcharter.org/