Subject: Re: Acoustic stealth awareness - hunting for papers From: Peter Lennox <P.Lennox@xxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 09:47:09 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--_000_DB3PR01MB36471CA884ECF83057F309ECE5F0DB3PR01MB364eurprd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems to me that an interesting angle is that it's not just an auditory = sensory acuity problem. It's a biofeedback problem, right enough, but cogni= tive aspects are important here - there are many people with good hearing t= hat are unaware of their own acoustic output (children, for instance - and = many adults). So, although you might be interested in people with depleted sensory acuity= , who therefore couldn't do what many 'normal' people can do - hear the ref= lected sound of their own footsteps, which ongoing feedback can be used to = calibrate ones sensitivity, useful in stealth situations - the question mig= ht be "can one use any other feedback route in stealth situations?" - could= be a visual metering, for arguments' sake, or haptic input. You're actuall= y interested in a fairly narrow dynamic range, I think, but it's complicate= d by acoustic factors - low-level sounds can carry; for instance, footfalls= on metal floors or some concrete constructions can cause the material to b= ehave as a drum, with resonance over a large volume of material (meaning th= at inverse square law wouldn't apply). So, monitoring for amplitude at the = stealthy subject wouldn't provide good predictions. Also, there's a 'noise floor' aspect to this, and someone with depleted hea= ring might not be fully cognizant of the noise floor? I'll be interested to know what you manage to turn up Cheers ppl Dr. Peter Lennox Senior Lecturer in Perception College of Arts University of Derby, UK e: p.lennox@xxxxxxxx<mailto:p.lennox@xxxxxxxx> t: 01332 593155 https://derby.academia.edu/peterlennox https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Lennox From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= ILL.CA] On Behalf Of Blyth M. Sent: 06 June 2016 14:44 To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Acoustic stealth awareness - hunting for papers Hello list members, My PhD research is investigating auditory fitness for duty in military pers= onnel. Specifically, I am investigating the impact of hearing impairment on= acoustic stealth awareness. This refers to situations where it is importan= t to be quiet to remain undetected by a nearby enemy, and how having a hear= ing loss might affect this ability. As far as I am aware there is limited l= iterature on this type of auditory situation, and wonder if anyone may be a= ble to point me towards relevant papers? I believe a core task involved is the ability to predict the intensity of a= sound at a target's location when you are generating the sound yourself (e= .g. talking, walking on gravel, etc.), therefore allowing you to predict ho= w loud you can be without the target hearing. My literature searches so far= have returned very little, but I wonder if I'm using the wrong terminology= , or missing some old school papers? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks Matt Matt Blyth PhD Candidate Hearing and Balance Centre Institute of Sound and Vibration Research University of Southampton Southampton, SO171BJ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves= the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this was sent to you in error, please reply to the sender an= d let them know. 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It’s a biofeedback problem, right = enough, but cognitive aspects are important here – there are many people with good hearing that are unaware of their = own acoustic output (children, for instance – and many adults).<o:p><= /o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">So, although you might be interested in people with depleted sensory a= cuity, who therefore couldn’t do what many ‘normal’ peopl= e can do – hear the reflected sound of their own footsteps, which ongoing feedback can be used to calibrate ones sensitivity, useful i= n stealth situations – the question might be “can one use any o= ther feedback route in stealth situations?” – could be a visual= metering, for arguments’ sake, or haptic input. You’re actually interested in a fairly narrow dynamic range, I think, but it̵= 7;s complicated by acoustic factors – low-level sounds can carry; for= instance, footfalls on metal floors or some concrete constructions can cau= se the material to behave as a drum, with resonance over a large volume of material (meaning that inverse square law wouldn= 217;t apply). So, monitoring for amplitude at the stealthy subject wouldn&#= 8217;t provide good predictions.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">Also, there’s a ‘noise floor’ aspect to this, and so= meone with depleted hearing might not be fully cognizant of the noise floor= ?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">I’ll be interested to know what you manage to turn up<o:p></o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">ppl<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">Dr. Peter Lennox<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">Senior Lecturer in Perception<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">College of Arts<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">University of Derby, UK<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">e: <a href=3D"mailto:p.lennox@xxxxxxxx"> <span style=3D"color:blue">p.lennox@xxxxxxxx</span></a> <o:p></o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US">t: 01332 593155<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"https://der= by.academia.edu/peterlennox"><span style=3D"color:blue">https://derby.acade= mia.edu/peterlennox</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"https://www= .researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Lennox"><span style=3D"color:blue">https://= www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Lennox</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN= -US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang= =3D"EN-US"> AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= TS.MCGILL.CA] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Blyth M.<br> <b>Sent:</b> 06 June 2016 14:44<br> <b>To:</b> AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<br> <b>Subject:</b> Acoustic stealth awareness - hunting for papers<o:p></o:p><= /span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello list members,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">My PhD research is investigating auditory fitness fo= r duty in military personnel. Specifically, I am investigating the impact o= f hearing impairment on acoustic stealth awareness. This refers to situatio= ns where it is important to be quiet to remain undetected by a nearby enemy, and how having a hearing loss migh= t affect this ability. As far as I am aware there is limited literature on = this type of auditory situation, and wonder if anyone may be able to point = me towards relevant papers?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I believe a core task involved is the ability to pre= dict the intensity of a sound at a target’s location when you are gen= erating the sound yourself (e.g. talking, walking on gravel, etc.), therefo= re allowing you to predict how loud you can be without the target hearing. My literature searches so far have retu= rned very little, but I wonder if I’m using the wrong terminology, or= missing some old school papers?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any help would be greatly appreciated!<o:p></o:p></p= > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Many thanks<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Matt<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Matt Blyth<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">PhD Candidate<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hearing and Balance Centre<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Institute of Sound and Vibration Research<o:p></o:p>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">University of Southampton<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Southampton, SO171BJ <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <br> <br> The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves= the right to monitor email traffic. <br> If you believe this was sent to you in error, please reply to the sender an= d let them know.<br> <br> Key University contacts: http://www.derby.ac.uk/its/contacts/ </body> </html> --_000_DB3PR01MB36471CA884ECF83057F309ECE5F0DB3PR01MB364eurprd_--