Subject: Re: Summary of discussion from ARO session on "Research and Teaching tools for Matlab" From: Marcus Pearce <marcus.pearce@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:38:43 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--------------040605080409030202020208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear All, Thanks for the summary, it seems relevant to mention the SoundSoftware project here: https://code.soundsoftware.ac.uk/ This is a software development and publishing platform for research on sound & music processing. The purpose is to support sustainable development of research software and, with particular reference to Lucas and Theo's message below, it allows you to associate articles and other publications with the software. It also provides projects with options including a wiki, a version control repository, facilities for listing members, creating downloads and other functionality. Marcus -- Senior Lecturer in Sound and Music Processing Queen Mary, University of London Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 7882 6207 Web: http://webprojects.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/marcusp Lab: http://music-cognition.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/ On 11/03/2016 13:52, Goverts, ST wrote: > > Dear collegues > > A short note in addition to this discussion. > > We feel the most effective way to promote better sharing of software > is to make a strong link between software and the articles/research it > is used for. We expect that someone browsing through a software > database or website is much more likely to recognize the utility of a > piece of software if he or she can see which articles were based on > it. It would probably be even more efficient if journal articles > included a link to a database in which the software used to conduct > the research is freely available for downloading. However, the latter > requires authors to be comfortable sharing their software at the time > of publication. This might be difficult to achieve in very > competitive fields of research. > > Regards, > > Lucas Stam and Theo Goverts, > > VU University Medical Center, AMSTERDAM > > *S.Theo Goverts PhD* > medical physicist audiologist, head of University Audiological Center > > Dept. of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, section Ear & Hearing > > EMGO Institute for Health and Care Research > > E: st.goverts@xxxxxxxx <mailto:st.goverts@xxxxxxxx> > > T: 020-4440969 > > De Boelelaan 1118 (PK, 2Y160), 1081 HZ Amsterdam, The Netherlands > > Postal address: P.O.Box 7057, 1007 MB Amsterdam, The Netherlands > > www.ac-vumc.nl <http://www.ac-vumc.nl/>www.ci-vumc.n > <http://www.ci-vumc.n/>_l_www.lhca.nl <http://www.lhca.nl/>__ > > www.vumc.nl <blocked::www.vumc.nl>www.vumc.nl/socialemedia > <http://www.vumc.nl/socialemedia>www.vumc.nl/steun-ons > <http://www.vumc.nl/steun-ons> > > *Van:*AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception > [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx *Namens *Alan Kan > *Verzonden:* vrijdag 4 maart 2016 1:14 > *Aan:* AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> > *Onderwerp:* Summary of discussion from ARO session on "Research and > Teaching tools for Matlab" > > Dear list, > > A request was made to provide a summary of the discussions that > occurred at the session on "Research and Teaching tools for Matlab" at > the ARO meeting last week. A summary is provided below. Hopefully it > will also spark some interesting discussions among the community of > the auditory list as well. > > Cheers > > Alan > > -- > Alan Kan, PhD > Assistant Scientist | Binaural Hearing and Speech Laboratory > > University of Wisconsin-Madison > Room 563, Waisman Center / 1500 Highland Avenue / Madison, WI, 53705 > Phone: +1-608-262-7483 / Fax: +1-608-263-2918 > Web: http://www.waisman.wisc.edu/~ahkan > <http://www.waisman.wisc.edu/%7Eahkan> > > --- > > *_RESEARCH AND TEACHING TOOLS FOR MATLAB: A COMMUNITY DISCUSSION_* > > ARO 2016 > > The purpose of the session on Research and Teaching Tools for MATLAB > was to try and answer the question: _What are the community needs for > the efficient sharing of MATLAB tools and resources for research and > teaching?_ This topic is motivated by a number of reasons: > > 1. less duplication of effort across labs & development of teaching > resources; > 2. rigor and reproducibility of work, especially after graduation of > grad students; > 3. improve learning experience for students; > 4. maybe having a more focused location for teaching and research > resources may be more useful than just on Google? > > While a conclusion was not reached during this meeting because of time > constraints, we had some fruitful discussions and a number of issues > were raised that should be the focus of future sessions. Most of the > discussion revolved around the sharing of research tools. There was > brief mention of a web-based textbook for teaching of MATLAB and/or > for hearing sciences with MATLAB code examples. Perhaps the ARO > website may be a good starting point for hosting this textbook, as > well as a place to share research tools? > > The following summary is divided into two sections: (1) possible best > practices, and (2) open issues. > > *1. Possible best practices for sharing* > > * Post code online freely, rather than only providing when asked. > Facilitates access, especially by students. > * Tagging - using meaningful keywords for code posted on the > internet so that it is easier to search with internet search engines. > * Being motivated to share code before the start of the project. > This can lead to better coding and documentation. > * Sharing of code should include simple usage examples, data sets > and perhaps be able to generate figures within publications by the > authors. > > *2. Open issues* > > * Posting on Auditory list may be initially good for announcing > availability but may not be easy to find beyond initial > announcement. Using tags and meaningful keywords may facilitate > searchability of code. > * When searching online for tools, sometimes it is difficult to know > what to search for. MATLAB answers forum may be a good start. > * How do we know if posted code works? Or does what it claims? Usage > examples would help. > * Liability - who is liable? Licensing issues was briefly discussed. > * Sharing of datasets and speech corpuses. > > The slides from presentations by Alan Kan, Michael Heinz, Ray > Goldsworthy, Denis Drennan, Piotr Madjak, Laurel Carney and Lisa > Kempler are available on request. These presentations highlight the > purpose and reasons for these discussions; how MATLAB is being used > for research and teaching within the ARO community; what tools are > currently being shared; what tools are available within MATLAB to > facilitate sharing; as well as what other communities are doing to > share teaching resources. > --------------040605080409030202020208 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by edgeum2.it.mcgill.ca id u2GEdOsn010288 <html> <head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> Dear All, <br> <br> Thanks for the summary, it seems relevant to mention the SoundSoftware project here: <br> <br> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://code.soundsoftware= .ac.uk/">https://code.soundsoftware.ac.uk/</a><br> <br> This is a software development and publishing platform for research on sound & music processing. The purpose is to support sustainable development of research software and, with particular reference to Lucas and Theo's message below, it allows you to associate articles and other publications with the software. It also provides projects with options including a wiki, a version control repository, facilities for listing members, creating downloads and other functionality.<br> <br> Marcus<br> <pre class=3D"moz-signature" cols=3D"72">--=20 Senior Lecturer in Sound and Music Processing Queen Mary, University of London Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 7882 6207 Web: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://webprojects.eecs.q= mul.ac.uk/marcusp">http://webprojects.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/marcusp</a> Lab: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://music-cognition.ee= cs.qmul.ac.uk/">http://music-cognition.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/</a> </pre> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 11/03/2016 13:52, Goverts, ST wrote= :<br> </div> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:e53327affa4b40eb8bbb8789160a0535@xxxxxxxx= outlook.com" type=3D"cite"> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252"> <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @xxxxxxxx {font-family:Calibri; 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However, the latter requires authors to be comfortable sharing their software at the time of publication.=A0 This might be difficult to achieve in very competitive fields of research. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB"= ><o:p>=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB"= >Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"EN-US"= ><o:p>=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB"= >Lucas Stam and Theo Goverts, <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">VU University Medical Center, AMSTERDAM<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>=A0</o:= p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>=A0</o:= p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><b><span 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style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&q= uot;;color:black"> </span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F49= 7D" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F49= 7D" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D" lang=3D"EN-U= S"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D" lang=3D"EN-U= S"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D" lang=3D"EN-U= S"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif= "" lang=3D"EN-US">Van:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif= "" lang=3D"EN-US"> AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perceptio= n [</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif= ""><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" hre= f=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx">mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a>= </span></a></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif= "" lang=3D"EN-US">] <b>Namens </b>Alan Kan<br> <b>Verzonden:</b> vrijdag 4 maart 2016 1:14<br> <b>Aan:</b> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif= ""><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" = href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a></sp= an></a></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif= "" lang=3D"EN-US"><br> <b>Onderwerp:</b> Summary of discussion from ARO session on "Research and Teaching tools for Matlab"<o:p></o:p></s= pan></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Dear list,<o:p></o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">A request was made to provide a summary of the discussions that occurred at the session on "Research and Teaching tools for Matlab" at the ARO meeting last week. A summary is provided below. Hopefully it will also spark some interesting discussions among the community of the auditory list as well. <o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Cheers<o:p></o:p></sp= an></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Alan<o:p></o:p></span= ></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">--<br> Alan Kan, PhD<br> Assistant Scientist | Binaural Hearing and Speech Laboratory<= o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">University of Wisconsin-Madison<br> Room 563, Waisman Center / 1500 Highland Avenue / Madison, WI, 53705<br> Phone: +1-608-262-7483 / Fax: +1-608-263-2918<br> Web: <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"http://www.waisman.wisc.edu/%7Eahkan">http://www.wa= isman.wisc.edu/~ahkan</a><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">---<o:p></o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><u><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt" lang=3D"EN-US">RESEARCH AND TEACHING TOOLS FOR MATLAB: A COMMUNITY DISCUSSION<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">ARO 2016<o:p></o:p></= span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"= ;color:black" lang=3D"EN-US">The purpose of the session on Research and Teaching Tools for MATLAB was to try and answer the question: <u>What are the community needs for the efficient sharing of MATLAB tools and resources for research and teaching?</u> This topic is motivated by a number of reasons:</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></sp= an></p> <ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm" start=3D"1" type=3D"1"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">less duplication of effort across labs & development of teaching resources;<o:p></o:p></span></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">rigor and reproducibility of work, especiall= y after graduation of grad students;<o:p></o:p></span></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">improve learning experience for students;<o:= p></o:p></span></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">maybe having a more focused location for teaching and research resources may be more useful than just on Google?<o:p></o:p></span></li> </ol> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p><= /span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"= ;color:black" lang=3D"EN-US">While a conclusion was not reached during this meeting because of time constraints, we had some fruitful discussions and a number of issues were raised that should be the focus of future sessions. Most of the discussion revolved around the sharing of research tools. There was brief mention of a web-based textbook for teaching of MATLAB and/or for hearing sciences with MATLAB code examples. Perhaps the ARO website may be a good starting point for hosting this textbook, as well as a place to share research tools? </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p><= /span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"= ;color:black" lang=3D"EN-US">The following summary is divided into two sections: (1) possible best practices, and (2) open issues. </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p>= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p><= /span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;;color:black" lang=3D"EN-US">1. Possible best practices for sharing</span= ></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></sp= an></p> <ul style=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">Post code online freely, rather than only providing when asked. Facilitates access, especially by students. <o:p></o:p></span></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">Tagging - using meaningful keywords for code posted on the internet so that it is easier to search with internet search engines.<o:p></o:p></span></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">Being motivated to share code before the start of the project. This can lead to better coding and documentation.<o:p></o:p></span></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">Sharing of code should include simple usage examples, data sets and perhaps be able to generate figures within publications by the authors.<o:p></o:p></spa= n></li> </ul> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p><= /span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;;color:black" lang=3D"EN-US">2. Open issues</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></sp= an></p> <ul style=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo9;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">Posting on Auditory list may be initially good for announcing availability but may not be easy to find beyond initial announcement. Using tags and meaningful keywords may facilitate searchability of code. <o:p></o:p></span></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo9;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">When searching online for tools, sometimes i= t is difficult to know what to search for. MATLAB answers forum may be a good start. <o:p></o:p></span></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo9;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">How do we know if posted code works? Or does what it claims? Usage examples would help.<o:p></o:p></span= ></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo9;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">Liability - who is liable? Licensing issues was briefly discussed.<o:p></o:p></span></li> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo9;vertical-align:baseline"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&quo= t;" lang=3D"EN-US">Sharing of datasets and speech corpuses. <o:p></o:p></span></li> </ul> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p><= /span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"= ;color:black" lang=3D"EN-US">The slides from presentations by Alan Kan, Michael Heinz, Ray Goldsworthy, Denis Drennan, Piotr Madjak, Laurel Carney and Lisa Kempler are available on request. These presentations highlight the purpose and reasons for these discussions; how MATLAB is being used for research and teaching within the ARO community; what tools are currently being shared; what tools are available within MATLAB to facilitate sharing; as well as what other communities are doing to share teaching resources. </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></sp= an></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=A0</o:p></span>= </p> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html> --------------040605080409030202020208--