Summary of responses - JND for tactile frequency ("Patel, Aniruddh D." )


Subject: Summary of responses - JND for tactile frequency
From:    "Patel, Aniruddh D."  <a.patel@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Wed, 5 Nov 2014 18:29:55 +0000
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--_000_E06FF38A806E884E9F935E87BFE5694C719DAD6BSSVMEXDAG01MB01_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear list, Many thanks to all who replied to my query regarding JND for tactile freque= ncy. A summary of responses is below. Regards, Ani Patel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------------- Original query (Oct 23, 2014), from Aniruddh Patel (a.patel@xxxxxxxx<mailt= o:a.patel@xxxxxxxx>) -------------------------- Can anyone point me to papers which quantify the JND for frequency of silen= t vibrotactile stimulation? Ideally the data would show JND as a functio= n of frequency over a range of tactile stimulation frequencies. Responses: >From Sebastian Merchel sebastian.merchel@xxxxxxxx<mailto:sebastian.mer= chel@xxxxxxxx> ------------------------------------------ You can find a review of tactile JNDFs at various body sites (e.g., finger,= forearm, whole body) in the following paper: Merchel, S., Altinsoy, M.E. & Stamm, M. (2011). Just Noticeable Frequency D= ifferences for Whole-Body Vibrations, in Proceedings of Internoise 2011, Os= aka, Japan. (http://www.sebastianmerchel.de/Publications/2011/Merchel_JNDF_WBV_Internoi= se2011.pdf) I just uploaded my PhD here: http://www.sebastianmerchel.de/publications.ht= ml (first publication from top). It contains a chapter with an extensive co= mparison between the auditory and tactile modality. >From Charlotte Reed cmreed@xxxxxxxx<mailto:cmreed@xxxxxxxx> -----------------= ------------------------------------------- Attached is a pdf that contains a relevant plot on this topic, taken from [= page 3 and 4 of a] chapter in a book called "Tactile Aids for the Hearing I= mpaired." Edited by I. R. Summers, Whurr Publishers, London, 1992. The ch= apter was written by R. T. Verrillo and G. A. Gescheider and is Chapter 1, = Perception via the sense of touch. The most relevant article to your inquiry is that of Goff (1967) for sinewa= ve stimulation presented to the finger. That reference is Goff (1967). Differential discrimination of frequency of= cutaneous mechanical vibration. J. Experimental Psychol. 74, 294-299. >From Ken Grant ken.w.grant@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ken.w.grant@xxxxxxxx> --------= ------------------------------------------------------------- Rothenberg, M., Verrillo, R. T., Zahorian, S. A., Brachman, M. L., & Bolano= wski Jr, S. J. (1977). Vibrotactile frequency for encoding a speech paramet= er.The Journal of the Acoustical Society of America, 62(4), 1003-1012. Bensma=CFa, S., Hollins, M., & Yau, J. (2005). Vibrotactile intensity and f= requency information in the Pacinian system: A psychophysical model.Percept= ion & psychophysics,67(5), 828-841. Franz=E9n, O., & Nordmark, J. (1975). Vibrotactile frequency discrimination= . Perception & Psychophysics, 17(5), 480-484. >From Stefan Bleeck bleeck@xxxxxxxx<mailto:bleeck@xxxxxxxx> --------------= -------------------------------------------------- The defining textbook answering all your questions (and several more) is th= e "Handbook of Human Vibration" by my estimated colleague Mike Griffin. http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Handbook_of_Human_Vibration.html?id= =3DtBaCHObL-XQC&redir_esc=3Dy The correct answer to your question (frequency jnd) depends on several fact= ors (frequency, amplitude, which part of the body you are measuring, which = probe, whole body vibration vs fingertip, sitting, standing, lying, etc) >From Brian FG Katz brian.katz@xxxxxxxx<mailto:brian.katz@xxxxxxxx> --------= ---------------------------------------------------------- We have done some recent studies in tactile sensitivity. These references m= ay be relevant for your work: L. Picinali, C. Feakes, D. A. Mauro, and B. Katz, "Spectral discrimination = thresholds comparing audio and haptics for complex stimuli," in Internation= al Workshop on Haptic and Audio Interaction Design (HAID 2012), HAID 2012, = (Lund, Sweden), pp. 131-140, C. Magnusson, D. Szymczak, and S. Brewster, 23= /08 au 24/08 2012, (doi:10.1007/978-3-642-32796-4_14). L. Picinali, C. Feakes, D. Mauro, and B. F. Katz, "Tone-2 tones discriminat= ion task comparing audio and haptics," in IEEE International Symposium on H= aptic Audio-Visual Environments and Games, (Munich), pp. 19-24, 8/10 au 9/1= 0 2012, (doi:10.1109/HAVE.2012.6374432). L. Picinali and B. Katz, "Spectral discrimination thresholds comparing audi= o and haptics," in Proc. Haptic and Auditory Interaction Design Workshop, v= ol. II, (Copenhagen), pp. 1-2, Sept 2010. >From Frank Russo russo@xxxxxxxx<mailto:russo@xxxxxxxx> ----= ------------------------------------------------------------------ H Pongrac, "Vibrotactile perception: examining the coding vibrations and th= e just noticeable difference under various conditions," Multimedia System 1= 3, 297 (2007). D A Mahns, N M Perkins, V S Sahai, L Robinson, and M J Rowe, "Vibrotactile = frequency discrimination in human hairy skin," Journal of Neurophysiology 9= 5, 1442-1450 (2006). G Goff, "Differential discrimination of frequency of cutaneous mechanical v= ibration," Journal of Experimental Psychology 74, 294 (1967). We once started collecting some data like this in my lab using complex tone= s between C2 and C6 (~ 60 to 1000 Hz). Branje, C. J., Maksimowski, M., Karam, M., Fels, D. I., & Russo, F. A. (201= 0). Vibrotactile display of music on the human back. Proceedings of the Int= ernational Conferences on Advances in Computer-Human Interactions, pp. 154-= 159, Saint Maarten, Antilles. http://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings/achi/2010/3957/00/3957a154-abs.htm= l >From Majorie Grantham marjorie.a.grantham.mil@xxxxxxxx<mailto:marjorie.a.gr= antham.mil@xxxxxxxx> ------------------------------------------------------= ------------------- Dr. Kim Myles and Ms. Mary Binseel published the attached. Not sure that it= is widely available, but it is available for public release. [Please email= Colonel Grantham directly for a copy] End of responses ----------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------- --_000_E06FF38A806E884E9F935E87BFE5694C719DAD6BSSVMEXDAG01MB01_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @xxxxxxxx {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin-top:0in; margin-right:0in; margin-bottom:10.0pt; margin-left:0in; line-height:115%; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Plain Text Char"; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:windowtext;} span.PlainTextChar {mso-style-name:"Plain Text Char"; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Plain Text"; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} @xxxxxxxx WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear list,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Many thanks to all who replied to my query regarding= JND for tactile frequency.&nbsp; A summary of responses is below.<br> <br> Regards,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ani Patel<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">----------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Original query (Oct 23, 2014), from Aniruddh Patel (= <a href=3D"mailto:a.patel@xxxxxxxx">a.patel@xxxxxxxx</a>) ---------------= -----------<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can anyone point me to papers which quantify the JND= for frequency of silent vibrotactile stimulation?&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Ideall= y the data would show JND as a function of frequency over a range of tactil= e stimulation frequencies.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Responses:<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">From Sebastian Merchel <a href=3D"mailto:sebastian.m= erchel@xxxxxxxx"> sebastian.merchel@xxxxxxxx</a> ---------------------------------------= ---<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">You can find a review of tactile JNDFs at various bo= dy sites (e.g., finger, forearm, whole body) in the following paper:<br> <br> Merchel, S., Altinsoy, M.E. &amp; Stamm, M. (2011). Just Noticeable Frequen= cy Differences for Whole-Body Vibrations, in Proceedings of Internoise 2011= , Osaka, Japan.<br> (<a href=3D"http://www.sebastianmerchel.de/Publications/2011/Merchel_JNDF_W= BV_Internoise2011.pdf"><span style=3D"color:purple">http://www.sebastianmer= chel.de/Publications/2011/Merchel_JNDF_WBV_Internoise2011.pdf</span></a>)<b= r> <br> <o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I just uploaded my PhD here:&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://= www.sebastianmerchel.de/publications.html"><span style=3D"color:purple">htt= p://www.sebastianmerchel.de/publications.html</span></a>&nbsp;(first public= ation from top). It contains a chapter with an extensive comparison between the auditory and tactile modality. <o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">From Charlotte Reed <a href=3D"mailto:cmreed@xxxxxxxx= ">cmreed@xxxxxxxx</a> ------------------------------------------------------= ------<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Attached is a pdf that contains a relevant plot on t= his topic, taken from [page 3 and 4 of a] chapter in a book called &#8220;T= actile Aids for the Hearing Impaired.&#8221;&nbsp; Edited by I. R. Summers,= Whurr Publishers, London, 1992.&nbsp; The chapter was written by R. T. Verrillo and G. A. Gescheider and is Chapter 1, Perception via th= e sense of touch.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The most relevant article to your inquiry is that of= Goff (1967) for sinewave stimulation presented to the finger.<o:p></o:p></= p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">That reference is Goff (1967).&nbsp; Differential di= scrimination of frequency of cutaneous mechanical vibration.&nbsp; J. Exper= imental Psychol. 74, 294-299.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">From Ken Grant <a href=3D"mailto:ken.w.grant@xxxxxxxx= om">ken.w.grant@xxxxxxxx</a> ---------------------------------------------= ------------------------<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rothenberg, M., Verrillo, R. T., Zahorian, S. A., Br= achman, M. L., &amp; Bolanowski Jr, S. J. (1977). Vibrotactile frequency fo= r encoding a speech parameter.<i>The Journal of the Acoustical Society of A= merica</i>,&nbsp;<i>62</i>(4), 1003-1012.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bensma=CFa, S., Hollins, M., &amp; Yau, J. (2005). V= ibrotactile intensity and frequency information in the Pacinian system: A p= sychophysical model.<i>Perception &amp; psychophysics</i>,<i>67</i>(5), 828= -841.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Franz=E9n, O., &amp; Nordmark, J. (1975). Vibrotacti= le frequency discrimination.&nbsp;<i>Perception &amp; Psychophysics</i>,&nb= sp;<i>17</i>(5), 480-484.&nbsp;<br> <br> >From Stefan Bleeck <a href=3D"mailto:bleeck@xxxxxxxx">bleeck@xxxxxxxx</a>= ----------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p= ></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The defining textbook answering all your questions (= and several more) is the &quot;Handbook of Human Vibration&quot; by my esti= mated colleague Mike Griffin.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Han= dbook_of_Human_Vibration.html?id=3DtBaCHObL-XQC&amp;redir_esc=3Dy">http://b= ooks.google.co.uk/books/about/Handbook_of_Human_Vibration.html?id=3DtBaCHOb= L-XQC&amp;redir_esc=3Dy</a><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The correct answer to your question (frequency jnd) = depends on several factors (frequency, amplitude, which part of the body yo= u are measuring, which probe, whole body vibration vs fingertip, sitting, s= tanding, lying, etc)<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">From Brian FG Katz <a href=3D"mailto:brian.katz@xxxxxxxx= I.FR">brian.katz@xxxxxxxx</a> ---------------------------------------------= ---------------------<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">We have done some recent studie= s in tactile sensitivity. These references may be relevant for your work:<o= :p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">L. Picinali, C. Feakes, D. A. M= auro, and B. Katz, &#8220;Spectral discrimination thresholds comparing audi= o and haptics for complex stimuli,&#8221; in International Workshop on Hapt= ic and Audio Interaction Design (HAID 2012), HAID 2012, (Lund, Sweden), pp. 131&#8211;140, C. Magnusson, D. Szymczak, and S.= Brewster, 23/08 au 24/08 2012, (doi:10.1007/978-3-642-32796-4_14).<o:p></o= :p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">L. Picinali, C. Feakes, D. Maur= o, and B. F. Katz, &#8220;Tone-2 tones discrimination task comparing audio = and haptics,&#8221; in IEEE International Symposium on Haptic Audio-Visual = Environments and Games, (Munich), pp. 19&#8211;24, 8/10 au 9/10 2012, (doi:10.1109/HAVE.2012.6374432).<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">L. Picinali and B. Katz, &#8220= ;Spectral discrimination thresholds comparing audio and haptics,&#8221; in = Proc. Haptic and Auditory Interaction Design Workshop, vol. II, (Copenhagen= ), pp. 1&#8211;2, Sept 2010.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">From Frank Russo <a href=3D"mailto:russo@xxxxxxxx= on.ca">russo@xxxxxxxx</a> -----------------------------------------= -----------------------------<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText">H Pongrac, &#8220;Vibrotactile perception: examin= ing the coding vibrations and the just noticeable difference under various = conditions,&#8221; Multimedia System 13, 297 (2007).<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText">D A Mahns, N M Perkins, V S Sahai, L Robinson, an= d M J Rowe, &#8220;Vibrotactile frequency discrimination in human hairy ski= n,&#8221; Journal of Neurophysiology 95, 1442-1450 (2006).<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText">G Goff, &#8220;Differential discrimination of fre= quency of cutaneous mechanical vibration,&#8221; Journal of Experimental Ps= ychology 74, 294 (1967).<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We once started collecting some data like this in= my lab using complex tones between C2 and C6 (~ 60 to 1000 Hz).<o:p></o:p>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Branje, C. J., Maksimowski, M., Karam, M., Fels, = D. I., &amp; Russo, F. A. (2010). Vibrotactile display of music on the huma= n back. Proceedings of the International Conferences on Advances in Compute= r-Human Interactions, pp. 154-159, Saint Maarten, Antilles.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"http://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedin= gs/achi/2010/3957/00/3957a154-abs.html">http://www.computer.org/csdl/procee= dings/achi/2010/3957/00/3957a154-abs.html</a><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText">From Majorie Grantham <a href=3D"mailto:marjorie.= a.grantham.mil@xxxxxxxx"> marjorie.a.grantham.mil@xxxxxxxx</a> --------------------------------------= -----------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Dr. Kim Myles and Ms. Mary Binseel published the = attached. Not sure that it is widely available, but it is available for pub= lic release. [Please email Colonel Grantham directly for a copy]<o:p></o:p>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">End of responses -----------------------------------= --------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></= o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_E06FF38A806E884E9F935E87BFE5694C719DAD6BSSVMEXDAG01MB01_--


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