Got the de Boer & Kuyper paper; question about correlated stimulus components ("Oberfeld-Twistel, Daniel" )

Subject: Got the de Boer & Kuyper paper; question about correlated stimulus components From: "Oberfeld-Twistel, Daniel" <oberfeld@xxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:15:35 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY> --_000_f71dab6b9e3347b1ac36fea4961c9921e15be01zdvUniMainzDE_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Got it, thank you very much for you fast responses! A related question: the classical reverse correlation technique usually use= s the "white noise" idea and assumes that all stimulus components (e.g., ac= oustic energy in different spectral regions, or all the picture elements in an image) are *uncorrelated*. In contrast, in studies on "psychophysical re= verse correlation", we use multiple regression analyses which are not affec= ted by correlated cues/stimulus components (e.g., http://dx.doi.org/10.1371= /journal.pone.0050184). Is anyone aware of a technique for the "classical" reverse correlation as i= n the de Boer paper that can be used with correlated stimulus components? Best Daniel PD Dr. Daniel Oberfeld-Twistel Johannes Gutenberg - Universitaet Mainz Department of Psychology Experimental Psychology Wallstrasse 3 55122 Mainz Germany Phone ++49 (0) 6131 39 39274 Fax ++49 (0) 6131 39 39268 http://www.staff.uni-mainz.de/oberfeld/ https://www.facebook.com/WahrnehmungUndPsychophysikUniMainz From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= ILL.CA] On Behalf Of Karl Lerud Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:25 AM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Paper request: de Boer, E., & Kuyper, P. (1968). Triggered cor= relation. IEEE Transactions on Biomedical Engineering, BM15(3), 169-179. Here it is. Looks interesting; should give it a read myself. Karl On 10/23/2014 04:04 AM, Oberfeld-Twistel, Daniel wrote: Dear list, does anyone happen to have access to this classical paper on reverse correl= ation and could send me a PDF....? de Boer, E., & Kuyper, P. (1968). Triggered correlation. IEEE Transactions = on Biomedical Engineering, BM15(3), 169-179. Best Daniel PD Dr. Daniel Oberfeld-Twistel Johannes Gutenberg - Universitaet Mainz Department of Psychology Experimental Psychology Wallstrasse 3 55122 Mainz Germany Phone ++49 (0) 6131 39 39274 Fax ++49 (0) 6131 39 39268 http://www.staff.uni-mainz.de/oberfeld/ https://www.facebook.com/WahrnehmungUndPsychophysikUniMainz --_000_f71dab6b9e3347b1ac36fea4961c9921e15be01zdvUniMainzDE_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body bgcolor=3D"white" lang=3D"DE" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> = Got it, thank you very much for y= ou fast responses!<o:p></o:p> = <o:p> </o:p></= p> = A related question: the classical= reverse correlation technique usually uses the "white noise" ide= a and assumes that all stimulus components (e.g., acoustic energy in differe= nt spectral regions, or all the picture elements in<o:p></o:p></font= > = an image) are *uncorrelated*. In = contrast, in studies on "psychophysical reverse correlation", we use multiple regression analyses which are not affected by correlated cues= /stimulus components (e.g., <a href=3D"http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0050184">http://dx.doi.or= g/10.1371/journal.pone.0050184</a>).<o:p></o:p> = <o:p> </o:p></= p> = Is anyone aware of a technique fo= r the "classical" reverse correlation as in the de Boer paper tha= t can be used with correlated stimulus components?<o:p></o:p><= /p> = <o:p> </o:p></= p> = Best<o:p></o:p> = <o:p> </o:p></= p> = Daniel<o:p></o:p></= p> = <o:p> </o:p></= p> <div> <div style=3D"mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-bottom:solid w= indowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 1.0pt 0cm"> <o:p> </o:p> </div> = PD Dr. Daniel Oberfeld-Twistel<o:p></o:p>= = Johannes Gutenberg - Universitaet Mainz<o:p></o:= p> = Department of Psychology<o:p></o:= p> = Experimental Psychology<o:p></o:p= > = Wallstrasse 3<o:p></o:p></= font> = 55122 Mainz<o:p></o:p></fo= nt> = Germany<o:p></o:p><= /p> = <o:p> </o:p></= p> = Phone ++49 (0) 6131 39 39= 274 <o:p></o:p> = Fax   ++49 (0) = 6131 39 39268<o:p></o:p> = http://www.staff.uni-mainz.de/obe= rfeld/<o:p></o:p> = https://www.facebook.com/WahrnehmungUndPsychophy= sikUniMainz<o:p></o:p> </div> = <o:p> </o:p> <div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm = 4.0pt"> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> = From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= A] On Behalf Of Karl Lerud Sent: Thursday, October 23, = 2014 10:25 AM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= Subject: Re: Paper request: = de Boer, E., & Kuyper, P. (1968). Triggered correlation. IEEE Transacti= ons on Biomedical Engineering, BM15(3), 169-179.<o:p></o:p></= p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Here = it is. Looks interesting; should give it a read myself. Karl <o:p></o:p> <div> On 10/23/2014 04:04 AM, Oberfeld-Twi= stel, Daniel wrote:<o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> = Dear list,<o:p></o:= p> =  <o:p></o:p></= p> = does anyone happen to have access= to this classical paper on reverse correlation and could send me a PDF….?<o:p></o:p> =  <o:p></o:p></= p> = de Boer, E., & Kuyper, P. (1968). Triggered correlation. IEEE Transactions o= n Biomedical Engineering, BM15(3), 169-179.<o:p></o:p> =  <o:p></o:p></= p> = Best<o:p></o:p> =  <o:p></o:p></= p> = Daniel<o:p></o:p></= p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm = 0cm 1.0pt 0cm"> =  <o:p></o:p></= p> </div> = PD Dr. Daniel Oberfeld-Twistel<o:p= ></o:p> = Johannes Gutenberg - Universitaet Mainz</= font><o:p></o:p> = Department of Psychology</= font><o:p></o:p> = Experimental Psychology</f= ont><o:p></o:p> = Wallstrasse 3<o:p><= /o:p> = 55122 Mainz<o:p></o= :p> = Germany<o:p></o:p><= /p> =  <o:p></o:p></= p> = Phone ++49 (0) 6131 39 39= 274 <o:p></o:p> = Fax   ++49 (0) = 6131 39 39268<o:p></o:p> = <a href=3D"http://www.staff.uni-m= ainz.de/oberfeld/">http://www.staff.uni-mainz.de/oberfeld/</a></font= ><o:p></o:p> = <a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/WahrnehmungU= ndPsychophysikUniMainz">https://www.facebook.com/WahrnehmungUndPsychophysik= UniMainz</a><o:p></o:p> </div> </blockquote> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_f71dab6b9e3347b1ac36fea4961c9921e15be01zdvUniMainzDE_--

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