Re: Moe Bergman's work on interrupted speech (Valeriy Shafiro )


Subject: Re: Moe Bergman's work on interrupted speech
From:    Valeriy Shafiro  <firosha@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 2014 11:53:31 -0500
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--001a11c2cbd809ae2e0504d80afd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear Stuart, Deniz and all, After reading this email I thought of a study I discussed a few years ago with Harry Levitt that seemed to fit the description. I saw it in print a while back but couldn't locate it now, so I emailed Harry. Harry's reply was, as always, informative and interesting and, with his permission, I am copying it below. In addition to Moe's book and the chapter suggested by Deniz there are some other papers Harry mentioned (and sent copies which I can share off the list). Regards, Valeriy from Harry's email: "...There are five papers relevant to your query, three of which are attached. 1. I. believe the paper you are referring to is the one with Hoffman*. *It describes a method for investigating the perception of interrupted speech. Katz, Bocca, Calearo and others used between-ear switched speech as a diagnostic tool in evaluating auditory processing disorders. The problem with this early work on between-ear switched speech was poor precision in controlling the switching process. We can do considerably better today with computer-controlled digitized speech. This is an area in which I have great interest and I would be very interested in your research in this area. A copy of the paper is attached. *A Note on Simultaneous and Interleaved Masking. I. Hoffman, and H. Levitt. J. Communication Disorders, 11, 207-213, l978.* 2. The paper with Hoffman did not investigate age-related effects. I think the method of comparing interleaved and simultaneous masking of binaural switched speech is a particularly sensitive technique for investigating age-related auditory processing deficits because of the large body of physiological and behavioral data showing a substantial age-related deficit in temporal processing. My book chapter with Oden, et al. introduces the concept of age-related auditory processing *deficits,* as opposed to auditory processing *disorders*. A disorder is abnormal, an age-related *deficit* is a normal aspect of aging. It is not a disorder. Moe's research is relevant here in that he showed that the perception of interrupted speech was much poorer than other forms of distorted speech. Moe's data is cited in this chapter as an example of a normal age-related deficit in auditory processing that is particularly severe. The chapter covers a lot of material and this particular point is often overlooked by researchers dealing with interrupted speech. A copy of this chapter is attached. *Computer-based training methods for age-related APD: Past, present, and future, H. Levitt, C. Oden, H. Simon, C. Noack & A. Lotze. Chapter 30 in Auditory Processing Disorders: Assessment, Management and Treatment: Second Edition, D Geffner and D Swain, (Eds.), San Diego:Plural Press, 2012* 3. I believe that the following paper is Moe's first publication in a peer-reviewed journal on age-related perception of distorted speech, including interrupted speech. A copy of the paper is attached. *Age Related Decrement in Hearing for Speech . Sampling and Longitudinal Studies, M. Bergman, V. G.Blumenfeld, D. Cascardo, B. Dash, H. Levitt, M. K. Margulies, , J. Gerontol., 31(5), 533-538, 1976.* 4.. Moe summarizes his experiments on age-related perception of distorted speech in his book, *Aging and the Perception of Speech, M Bergman, 1980*. The book is available from Amazon 5. The following book chapter reviews the state of the art on age-related speech-understanding in the late 1970s. Much of Moe's work is cited in this review. *Aging and Speech Understanding. J. Pickett, M. Bergman and H. Levitt. Sensory Systems and Communication in the Elderly, 10, 167-186, 1979.**"* On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Stuart Rosen <s.rosen@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Some of you will know of Moe Bergman who, among other things, did some > interesting work with interrupted speech (described in his 1980 book > 'Aging and the perception of speech'). Many years ago, I helped Moe make > some more exotic versions of this task with interrupted speech alternating > between ears, and sometimes with a competing masker as well. I cannot find > any evidence that any of that work was published so I would be grateful if > anyone had any other information. > > Thanks! > > Yours - Stuart > -- > ------------------------------ > Stuart Rosen, PhD > Professor of Speech and Hearing Science > UCL Speech, Hearing and Phonetic Sciences > 2 Wakefield Street > London WC1N 1PF, England > > Telephone numbers: > > - Office: (+ 44 [0]20) 7679 4077 > - Admin: (+ 44 [0]20) 7679 4050 > - Internal: ext 24077 > > Email: stuart@xxxxxxxx > Home page: http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/stuart > > ------------------------------ > --001a11c2cbd809ae2e0504d80afd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>Dear Stuart, Deniz and all,<br><br></d= iv>After=20 reading this email I thought of a study I discussed a few years ago=20 with=C2=A0 Harry Levitt that seemed to fit the description.=C2=A0 I saw it = in=20 print a while back but couldn&#39;t locate it now, so I emailed Harry.=C2= =A0=20 Harry&#39;s reply was, as always, informative and interesting and, with his= =20 permission, I am copying it below.=C2=A0 In addition to Moe&#39;s book and = the=20 chapter suggested by Deniz there are some other papers Harry mentioned=20 (and sent copies which I can share off the list).=C2=A0 <br><br></div>Regar= ds, <br><br></div>Valeriy<br><br></div>from Harry&#39;s email:<br>&quot;...= There are five papers relevant to your query, three of which are attached.= =C2=A0 <div> </div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt">1.=C2=A0 I. believe the p= aper you are referring to is the one with Hoffman<i>.=C2=A0</i>It describes a method for investigating the perception of interrupted=20 speech. Katz, Bocca, Calearo=C2=A0and others used between-ear switched speech as a diagnostic tool in evaluating auditory processing disorders. The problem with this early work on=C2=A0between-ear switched speech was= =20 poor precision in controlling the switching process. We can do=20 considerably better today with computer-controlled digitized speech. This is an area in which I have great interest and I would be=20 very interested in your research in this area. A copy of the paper is=20 attached.</div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt"><b>A Note on Simultaneous= and Interleaved Masking.=C2=A0 I. Hoffman, and H. Levitt.=C2=A0 J. Communi= cation Disorders, 11, 207-213, l978.</b><br> </div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt"> </div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt">2. The paper with=20 Hoffman did not investigate age-related=C2=A0effects. I think the method of= =20 comparing interleaved and simultaneous masking of binaural=C2=A0switched=20 speech is a particularly sensitive technique for investigating age-related auditory processing deficits because of the large body of=20 physiological and behavioral data showing a substantial age-related=20 deficit in temporal processing. My book chapter with Oden, et=20 al.=C2=A0introduces the concept of age-related auditory processing <u>deficits,</u>=C2=A0as opposed to auditory processing=C2=A0<u>disorders</= u>. A disorder is abnormal, an age-related=C2=A0<u>deficit</u>=C2=A0is a normal aspect of aging. It is not a disorder. Moe&#39;s research is=20 relevant here in that he showed that the perception of interrupted speech was much poorer than other forms of distorted speech. Moe&#39;s data= =20 is cited in this chapter as an example of a normal age-related deficit=20 in auditory processing that is particularly severe. The chapter covers a lot of material and this particular point is often overlooked by researchers dealing with interrupted speech. A=20 copy of this chapter is attached. =C2=A0</div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt"><b>Computer-based=20 training methods for age-related APD: Past, present, and future, H.=20 Levitt, C. Oden, H. Simon, C. Noack=C2=A0&amp; A. Lotze. Chapter 30 in=20 Auditory Processing Disorders: Assessment, Management and Treatment: Second Edition, D Geffner=C2=A0and D Swain, (Eds.), San Diego:Plural Press,= =20 2012</b></div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt"> </div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt">=C2=A03. I believe that t= he=20 following paper is Moe&#39;s first publication in a peer-reviewed journal o= n age-related perception of distorted speech, including=20 interrupted=C2=A0speech.<font color=3D"#333333" face=3D"Arial,sans-serif">= =C2=A0</font>A copy of the paper is attached.</div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt"><b>Age Related=20 Decrement in Hearing for Speech . Sampling and Longitudinal Studies, M.=20 Bergman, V. G.Blumenfeld,=C2=A0 D. Cascardo, B. Dash, H. Levitt, M. K.=20 Margulies, , J. Gerontol., 31(5), 533-538, 1976.</b><b><br> </b></div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt"> </div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt">4.. Moe summarizes his ex= periments<span style=3D"background-color:yellow">=C2=A0</span>on age-relate= d=C2=A0perception of distorted speech in his book,<b>=C2=A0</b><font color= =3D"#333333" face=3D"Arial,sans-serif"><b>Aging and the Perception of Speech, M Bergman, 1980</b></font><font color=3D"#333333" fac= e=3D"Arial,sans-serif">. The book is available from Amazon=C2=A0</font></di= v> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt"> </div> <div style=3D"margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:14pt">5. The following=C2=A0boo= k=20 chapter reviews the state of the art on age-related speech-understanding in=C2=A0the late 1970s. Much of Moe&#39;s work is cited in this review.=C2= =A0</div> <b>Aging and Speech=20 Understanding.=C2=A0 J. Pickett, M. Bergman and H. Levitt.=C2=A0 Sensory Sy= stems=20 and Communication in the Elderly, 10, 167-186, 1979.</b><b>&quot;</b></div>= <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 2, 20= 14 at 5:34 AM, Stuart Rosen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:s.rosen= @xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">s.rosen@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b= lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px = #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> =20 =20 =20 <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> Some of you will know of Moe Bergman who, among other things, did some interesting work with interrupted speech (described in his 1980 book=C2=A0 &#39;Aging and the perception of speech&#39;). Many years ag= o, I helped Moe make some more exotic versions of this task with interrupted speech alternating between ears, and sometimes with a competing masker as well. I cannot find any evidence that any of that work was published so I would be grateful if anyone had any other information.<br> <br> Thanks!<br> <br> Yours - Stuart<br> -- <br> <div> <hr> Stuart Rosen, PhD<br> Professor of Speech and Hearing Science<br> UCL Speech, Hearing and Phonetic Sciences<br> 2 Wakefield Street<br> London WC1N 1PF, England<br> <br> Telephone numbers: <ul> <li>Office: (+ 44 [0]20) 7679 4077</li> <li>Admin: (+ 44 [0]20) 7679 4050</li> <li>Internal: ext 24077</li> </ul> Email: <a href=3D"mailto:stuart@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">stu= art@xxxxxxxx</a><br> Home page: <a href=3D"http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/stuart" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/stuart</a><br> <br> <hr> </div> </div> </blockquote></div><br></div> --001a11c2cbd809ae2e0504d80afd--


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