Re: Precedence effect in real systems? ("Richard F. Lyon" )


Subject: Re: Precedence effect in real systems?
From:    "Richard F. Lyon"  <dicklyon@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:29:37 -0700
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--001a11c3e0189f31b70503d23049 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, H=C3=BCseyin, I appreciate those synthesis-oriented applications, t= oo. Dick On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:02 AM, H=C3=BCseyin Hac=C4=B1habibo=C4=9Flu <hhus= eyin@xxxxxxxx > wrote: > Dear Dick, > > Not directly related to source separation as you queried in your original > message, but these may be also be of interest nonetheless: > > 1) I used a simple statistical model of the precedence effect as part of > my PhD in 2004. The statistical model was published in AAuA in 2006: > > Hacihabiboglu, H., and Murtagh, F., (2006), "An observational study of th= e > precedence effect", Acta Acustica united with Acustica, 90(3), pp. 440-45= 6, > May/June 2006. > > We have later used that model to simplify ISM-based binaural room > auralization by a perceptually informed clustering of image sources: > > Hacihabiboglu, H., and Murtagh, F., (2008), "Perceptual simplification fo= r > model-based binaural room auralisation", Applied Acoustics, 69(8), pp. > 715-727, August 2008. > > 2) In an earlier work published in IEEE WASPAA in 2003 I used onset > dominance to reduce the complexity of the binaural synthesis of early > reflections. A graceful degradation approach was used to keep the filter > size fixed while processing not only the direct sound but also the > reflections. > > Hacihabiboglu H., (2003) =E2=80=9CA fixed-cost variable-length auralizati= on filter > model utilizing the precedence effect=E2=80=9D, Proc. IEEE Workshop on Ap= plications > of Signal Processing to Audio and Acoustics (WASPAA-03), pp. 1-4, New Yor= k, > USA, 19-22 October, 2003. > > I hope that these are also relevant. > > Best, > > H=C3=BCseyin > > -- > Dr Huseyin Hacihabiboglu > Assistant Professor > Head of Department of Modelling and Simulation > Informatics Institute, METU, 06800, Ankara, Turkey > tel: +90 312 2107889 | e-mail: hhuseyin@xxxxxxxx | web: > http://www.hacihabiboglu.org | VoIP: husshho (skype) > > On 24 Sep 2014, at 07:54, Richard F. Lyon <dicklyon@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Axel, yes, those are good ones; thanks for your paper, and for remindin= g > me of Palom=C3=A4ki et al 2004, which I have. > > I will mention these as precedence-effect application successes in my > binaural chapter. > > > > Dick > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Axel Plinge < > axel.plinge@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello Dick! > > > > I am not sure if this is what you are looking for, however I am using a > simple precedence effect in my 'machine hearing' model for speaker > localization by subtracting a time-shifted average from the signal in eac= h > band, as introduced in: > > > > Plinge, A., Hennecke, M. H., & Fink, G. A. "Robust Neuro-Fuzzy Speaker > Localization Using a Circular Microphone Array", in 12th International > Workshop on Acoustic Echo and Noise Control; Tel Aviv, Israel, 2010 > http://patrec.cs.tu-dortmund.de//pubs/abstracts/Plinge2010-RNF.htm > > > > A similar idea was used in: > > K. J. Palom=C3=A4ki, G. J. Brown, and D. L.Wang, =E2=80=9CA binaural pr= ocessor for > missing data speech recognition in the presence of noise and small-room > reverberation,=E2=80=9D in Speech Communication, 2004, vol. 43 (4), pp. 2= 73=E2=80=93398. > > Kind regards, > > > > Axel > > -- > > > > http://patrec.cs.tu-dortmund.de/cms/en/home/People/Staff/plinge.html > > > > TU Dortmund, Department of Computer Science, LS XII, > > Pattern Recognition, Otto-Hahn-Str. 16, 44227 Dortmund, Germany > > > > > > --001a11c3e0189f31b70503d23049 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks, H=C3=BCseyin, I appreciate those synthesis-or= iented applications, too.<br><br></div>Dick<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmai= l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:02 AM, H= =C3=BCseyin Hac=C4=B1habibo=C4=9Flu <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto= :hhuseyin@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">hhuseyin@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span= > wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo= rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Dick,<br> <br> Not directly related to source separation as you queried in your original m= essage, but these may be also be of interest nonetheless:<br> <br> 1) I used a simple statistical model of the precedence effect as part of my= PhD in 2004. The statistical model was published in AAuA in 2006:<br> <br> Hacihabiboglu, H., and Murtagh, F., (2006), &quot;An observational study of= the precedence effect&quot;, Acta Acustica united with Acustica, 90(3), pp= . 440-456, May/June 2006.<br> <br> We have later used that model to simplify ISM-based binaural room auralizat= ion by a perceptually informed clustering of image sources:<br> <br> Hacihabiboglu, H., and Murtagh, F., (2008), &quot;Perceptual simplification= for model-based binaural room auralisation&quot;, Applied Acoustics, 69(8)= , pp. 715-727, August 2008.<br> <br> 2) In an earlier work published in IEEE WASPAA in 2003 I used onset dominan= ce to reduce the complexity of the binaural synthesis of early reflections.= A graceful degradation approach was used to keep the filter size fixed whi= le processing not only the direct sound but also the reflections.<br> <br> Hacihabiboglu H., (2003) =E2=80=9CA fixed-cost variable-length auralization= filter model utilizing the precedence effect=E2=80=9D, Proc. IEEE Workshop= on Applications of Signal Processing to Audio and Acoustics (WASPAA-03), p= p. 1-4, New York, USA, 19-22 October, 2003.<br> <br> I hope that these are also relevant.<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> H=C3=BCseyin<br> <br> --<br> Dr Huseyin Hacihabiboglu<br> Assistant Professor<br> Head of Department of Modelling and Simulation<br> Informatics Institute, METU, 06800, Ankara, Turkey<br> tel: +90 312 2107889 | e-mail: <a href=3D"mailto:hhuseyin@xxxxxxxx">hhus= eyin@xxxxxxxx</a> | web: <a href=3D"http://www.hacihabiboglu.org" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.hacihabiboglu.org</a> | VoIP: husshho (skype)<br> <span class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br> On 24 Sep 2014, at 07:54, Richard F. Lyon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dicklyon@xxxxxxxx= M.ORG">dicklyon@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br> <br> &gt; Axel, yes, those are good ones; thanks for your paper, and for remindi= ng me of Palom=C3=A4ki et al 2004, which I have.<br> &gt; I will mention these as precedence-effect application successes in my = binaural chapter.<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Dick<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt; On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Axel Plinge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ax= el.plinge@xxxxxxxx">axel.plinge@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br> </span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">&gt; Hello Dick!<br> &gt;<br> &gt; I am not sure if this is what you are looking for, however I am using = a simple precedence effect in my &#39;machine hearing&#39; model for speake= r localization by subtracting a time-shifted average from the signal in eac= h band, as introduced in:<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Plinge, A., Hennecke, M. H., &amp; Fink, G. A. &quot;Robust Neuro-Fuzz= y Speaker Localization Using a Circular Microphone Array&quot;, in 12th Int= ernational Workshop on Acoustic Echo and Noise Control; Tel Aviv, Israel, 2= 010 <a href=3D"http://patrec.cs.tu-dortmund.de//pubs/abstracts/Plinge2010-R= NF.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://patrec.cs.tu-dortmund.de//pubs/abstracts/P= linge2010-RNF.htm</a><br> &gt;<br> &gt; A similar idea was used in:<br> &gt; K. J. Palom=C3=A4ki, G. J. Brown, and D. L.Wang, =E2=80=9CA binaural p= rocessor for missing data speech recognition in the presence of noise and s= mall-room reverberation,=E2=80=9D in Speech Communication, 2004, vol. 43 (4= ), pp. 273=E2=80=93398.<br> &gt; Kind regards,<br> &gt;<br> &gt; Axel<br> &gt; --<br> &gt;<br> &gt; <a href=3D"http://patrec.cs.tu-dortmund.de/cms/en/home/People/Staff/pl= inge.html" target=3D"_blank">http://patrec.cs.tu-dortmund.de/cms/en/home/Pe= ople/Staff/plinge.html</a><br> &gt;<br> &gt; TU Dortmund, Department of Computer Science, LS XII,<br> &gt; Pattern Recognition, Otto-Hahn-Str. 16, 44227 Dortmund, Germany<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> <br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> --001a11c3e0189f31b70503d23049--


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