Subject: Re: Precedence effect in real systems? From: "Richard F. Lyon" <dicklyon@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 17:11:27 -0700 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--001a11c16ec2f0d860050209f5c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pierre, yes, I agree, that's a good one. They had another the same year, which reached slightly different conclusions about whether an interaural coherence measure is needed: Hummersone, C., Brookes, T., and Mason, R. (2010). =E2=80=9CA comparison of computational precedence models for source separation in reverberant environments,=E2=80=9D in Audio Engine= ering Society Convention 128. I wonder why nobody applied these ideas in the subsequent challenges. Dick On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Pierre Divenyi <pdivenyi@xxxxxxxx= > wrote: > Dick, > > I found this article > Hummersone, C. (2010). =E2=80=9CDynamic Precedence Effect Modeling for So= urce > Separation in Reverberant Environments =E2=80=9C, IEEE TRANSACTIONS ON AU= DIO, > SPEECH, AND LANGUAGE PROCESSING, VOL. 18, NO. 7. > -Pierre > > From: "Richard F. Lyon" <dicklyon@xxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: "Richard F. Lyon" <dicklyon@xxxxxxxx> > Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 at 1:47 PM > To: <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: Precedence effect in real systems? > > I'm trying to find examples of where models of the precedent effect have > been applied to binaural or multi-microphone sound separation or > enhancements systems. Looking at recent REVERB and CHiME challenges, I'm > not finding much. > > Can anyone point me at successes or failures of precedence effect models > in systems that have actually been evaluated in some task relative to oth= er > approaches? > > Dick > > --001a11c16ec2f0d860050209f5c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Pierre, yes, I agree, that's a good one.=C2=A0 <b= r>They had another the same year, which reached slightly different conclusi= ons about whether an interaural coherence measure is needed:<br>Hummersone,= C., Brookes, T., and Mason, R. (2010). =E2=80=9CA comparison of computatio= nal precedence models<br> for source separation in reverberant environments,=E2=80=9D in Audio Engine= ering Society Convention 128.<br><br></div><div>I wonder why nobody applied= these ideas in the subsequent challenges.<br></div><div><br></div>Dick<br>= <br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On = Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Pierre Divenyi <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href= =3D"mailto:pdivenyi@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">pdivenyi@xxxxxxxx= anford.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb= (0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div>Dick,</div><div= ><br> </div><div>I found this article</div><div>Hummersone, C. (2010). =E2=80=9CD= ynamic Precedence Effect Modeling for Source Separation in Reverberant Envi= ronments =E2=80=9C, IEEE TRANSACTIONS ON AUDIO, SPEECH, AND LANGUAGE PROCES= SING, VOL. 18, NO. 7.</div> <div>-Pierre</div><div><br></div><span><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri;fo= nt-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-L= EFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDE= R-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"> <span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span> "Richard F. Lyon" = <<a href=3D"mailto:dicklyon@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">dicklyon@xxxxxxxx<= /a>><br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> "Richard= F. Lyon" <<a href=3D"mailto:dicklyon@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">di= cklyon@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> <span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, August 26, 2014 at = 1:47 PM<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span> <<a href=3D"mail= to:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a>= ><br> <span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Precedence effect in real= systems?<br></div><div class=3D""><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I&#= 39;m trying to find examples of where models of the precedent effect have b= een applied to binaural or multi-microphone sound separation or enhancement= s systems.=C2=A0 Looking at recent REVERB and CHiME challenges, I'm not= finding much.<br> <br></div>Can anyone point me at successes or failures of precedence effect= models in systems that have actually been evaluated in some task relative = to other approaches?<br><br>Dick<br><br></div></div></span></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> --001a11c16ec2f0d860050209f5c4--