Subject: Re: a mail for help about a paper [AUDITORY] From: "Richard F. Lyon" <dicklyon@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:22:40 -0700 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--20cf300fadf5c3711304f691ef46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Inspired by interest in this Johannesma paper and by my really poor old scan, I sought out an actual original copy of the informal proceedings of that IPO meeting "Hearing Theory 1972". It's got a lot of good stuff in it, which I can now make more readable scans of (the original is from poor typewritten pages to start with, so it's still not great). Many of you may know that the requested paper is the one widely cited as the origin of the formula for a gammatone. I still don't see much clue for how Johannesma came up with it. Perhaps he was familiar enough with Laplace transform theory that such a form seemed natural to him? Does anyone know his background? Here's what he says, with a bit of reconstructed LaTeX style thrown in for the equation: The waveform could be well approximated through $$ R(\tau) \approx c \left(\frac{\tau - \alpha}{\beta}\right)^{\gamma - 1} e^{-\frac{\tau - \alpha}{\beta}} \sin(\omega_0 \tau + \phi) $$ (17) The form of $R(\tau)$ is not in an obvious way related with the type of neuron characterised by the PSTH on CF tone-bursts (Pfeiffer, 1966). The quality of $R(\tau)$ seems clearly related with the amount of phase-lock in tone-burst response and with cell-type (compare Lavine, 1971). $R(\tau)$ forms the average value of the PRSE. ... with these refs: Pfeiffer, R.R. (1966): Classification of response patterns of spike discharges for units in the cochlear nucleus: tone burst stimulation, Exp. Brain Res. 1, 220-235. Lavine, R.A. (1971): Phase-locking in response of single neurons in cochlear nuclear complex of the cat to low-frequency tonal stimuli, J. Neurophysiol. 34, 467-483. here's the TOC: 5 F.A. Bilsen Pitch of Dichotically Delayed Noise 9 G. van den Brink The Influence of Fatigue upon the Pitch of Pure Tones and Complex Sounds 16 H. Duifhuis Peripheral Aspects of Non-Simultaneous Masking 27 E.F. Evans Does Frequency Sharpening Occur in the Cochlea? 35 H. Fastl Temporal Effects in Masking 42 L.M. Grobben Pitch and Power Spectra of Short Tone Pulses SO T. Houtgast Psychophysical Experiments on Grating Acuity 58 P.I.M. Johannesma The Pre-Response Stimulus Ensemble of Neurons in the Cochlear Nucleus 70 H.R. de Jongh About Coding in the VIIIth Nerve 78 L.J.J. Lamore Perception of Octave Complexes 90 A.R. Moller Coding of AM and FM Sounds in Cochlear Nucleus 96 B.C.J. Moore Audibility of Partials in a Complex Tone, in Relation to the Pitch of the Complex as a Whole 105 A Rakowski Direct Comparison of Absolute and Relative Pitch 109 M. Rodenburg Intensity Discrimination of Noise Bands as a Function of Bandwidth and Duration 115 B. Scharf Frequency Selectivity and Sound Localization 123 M.R. Schroeder An Integrable Model for the Basilar Membrane 135 C.R. Steele Analysis of Fluid-Elastic Interaction in Cochlea 142 E. Terhardt Frequency and Time Resolution of the Ear in Pitch Perception of Complex Tones 154 I.e. Whitfield The Relation .of the Medial Geniculate Body to the Tonotopic Organization of the Auditory Pathway 161 F.L. Wightman Pitch as Auditory Pattern Recognition 172 J.P. Wilson and J.R. Johnstone Capacitive Probe Measures of Basilar Membrane Vibration 182 E. Zwicker Investigation of the Inner Ear of the Domestic Pig and the Squirrel Monkey with Special Regard to the Hydromechanics of the Cochlear Duct 186 J.L. Goldstein Evidence from Aural Combination Tones and Musical Tones against Classical Periodicity Theory 209 List of Participants On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Richard F. Lyon <dicklyon@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > I am sending a copy. > > Dick > > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:10 PM, windok02 <windok02@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hello everyone, I am a researcher in speech analysis, and I have tried to >> search for a paper but can not find it on the Web: >> >> "P I M Johannesma, The pre-response stimulus esemble of neurons in the >> cochlear nucleus" >> (In Symposium on Hearing Theory, 1972) >> >> Therefore, I write for help to see whether anyone has a file of the >> paper. >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Yours, >> X. D. Zhuang >> Ph. D., WSEAS Research Dept., Athens, GREECE >> >> >> >> >> > --20cf300fadf5c3711304f691ef46 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Inspired by interest in this Johannesma paper an= d by my really poor old scan, I sought out an actual original copy of the i= nformal proceedings of that IPO meeting "Hearing Theory 1972".=A0= It's got a lot of good stuff in it, which I can now make more readable= scans of (the original is from poor typewritten pages to start with, so it= 's still not great).<br> <br></div>Many of you may know that the requested paper is the one widely c= ited as the origin of the formula for a gammatone.=A0 I still don't see= much clue for how Johannesma came up with it.=A0 Perhaps he was familiar e= nough with Laplace transform theory that such a form seemed natural to him?= =A0 Does anyone know his background?<br> <br></div>Here's what he says, with a bit of reconstructed LaTeX style = thrown in for the equation:<br><div><div><div><br><div style=3D"color:rgb(3= 4,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:n= ormal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-alig= n:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing= :0px"> The waveform could be well approximated through=A0</div><div style=3D"color= :rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-var= iant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;tex= t-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-s= pacing:0px"> =A0 $$ R(\tau) \approx c \left(\frac{\tau - \alpha}{\beta}\right)^{\gamma -= 1} <br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 e^{-\frac{\tau - \alpha}{\beta}} \sin(\omega_0 \= tau + \phi) $$ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(17)</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);f= ont-family:arial;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font= -weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;te= xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> =A0</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:smal= l;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:n= ormal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:no= ne;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> The form of $R(\tau)$ is not in an obvious way related with the type of neu= ron=A0</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:s= mall;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacin= g:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform= :none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> characterised by the PSTH on CF tone-bursts (Pfeiffer, 1966). The quality= =A0</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:smal= l;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:n= ormal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:no= ne;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> of=A0$R(\tau)$=A0seems clearly related with the amount of phase-lock in ton= e-burst=A0</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-si= ze:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-sp= acing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-trans= form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> response and with cell-type (compare Lavine, 1971).=A0$R(\tau)$=A0forms the= average=A0</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-s= ize:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-s= pacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tran= sform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> value of the PRSE. ...</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:a= rial;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:norm= al;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0p= x;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> <br></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:sma= ll;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:= normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:n= one;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> with these refs:</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;f= ont-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;let= ter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text= -transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> <br></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:sma= ll;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:= normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:n= one;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> <div>Pfeiffer, R.R. (1966): Classification of response patterns of spike=A0= </div><div>discharges for units in the cochlear nucleus: tone burst stimula= tion,=A0</div><div>Exp. Brain Res. 1, 220-235.=A0</div></div><div style=3D"= color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;font-style:normal;fon= t-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:norma= l;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;w= ord-spacing:0px"> <br></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:sma= ll;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:= normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:n= one;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> <div>Lavine, R.A. (1971): Phase-locking in response of single neurons in=A0= </div><div>cochlear nuclear complex of the cat to low-frequency tonal stimu= li,=A0</div><div>J. Neurophysiol. 34, 467-483.=A0</div></div><br class=3D""= ><br> </div><div>here's the TOC:<br><br>5 F.A. Bilsen<br>Pitch of Dichoticall= y Delayed Noise<br>9 G. van den Brink<br>The Influence of Fatigue upon the = Pitch of Pure<br>Tones and Complex Sounds<br>16 H. Duifhuis<br>Peripheral A= spects of Non-Simultaneous Masking<br> 27 E.F. Evans<br>Does Frequency Sharpening Occur in the Cochlea?<br>35 H. F= astl<br>Temporal Effects in Masking<br>42 L.M. Grobben<br>Pitch and Power S= pectra of Short Tone Pulses<br>SO T. Houtgast<br>Psychophysical Experiments= on Grating Acuity<br> 58 P.I.M. Johannesma<br>The Pre-Response Stimulus Ensemble of Neurons in<br= >the Cochlear Nucleus<br>70 H.R. de Jongh<br>About Coding in the VIIIth Ner= ve<br>78 L.J.J. Lamore<br>Perception of Octave Complexes<br>90 A.R. Moller<= br> Coding of AM and FM Sounds in Cochlear Nucleus<br>96 B.C.J. Moore<br>Audibi= lity of Partials in a Complex Tone, in Relation<br>to the Pitch of the Comp= lex as a Whole<br><br>105 A Rakowski<br>Direct Comparison of Absolute and R= elative Pitch<br> 109 M. Rodenburg<br>Intensity Discrimination of Noise Bands as a<br>Functio= n of Bandwidth and Duration<br>115 B. Scharf<br>Frequency Selectivity and S= ound Localization<br>123 M.R. Schroeder<br>An Integrable Model for the Basi= lar Membrane<br> 135 C.R. Steele<br>Analysis of Fluid-Elastic Interaction in Cochlea<br>142 = E. Terhardt<br>Frequency and Time Resolution of the Ear in Pitch<br>Percept= ion of Complex Tones<br>154 I.e. Whitfield<br>The Relation .of the Medial G= eniculate Body to<br> the Tonotopic Organization of the Auditory Pathway<br>161 F.L. Wightman<br>= Pitch as Auditory Pattern Recognition<br>172 J.P. Wilson and J.R. Johnstone= <br>Capacitive Probe Measures of Basilar Membrane<br>Vibration<br>182 E. Zw= icker<br> Investigation of the Inner Ear of the Domestic<br>Pig and the Squirrel Monk= ey with Special Regard to<br>the Hydromechanics of the Cochlear Duct<br>186= J.L. Goldstein<br>Evidence from Aural Combination Tones and Musical<br> Tones against Classical Periodicity Theory<br>209 List of Participants<br><= br></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail= _quote">On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Richard F. Lyon <span dir=3D"ltr"= ><<a href=3D"mailto:dicklyon@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">dicklyon@xxxxxxxx= </a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-= left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I am sen= ding a copy.<br><br>Dick<br><br></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><di= v class=3D"gmail_extra"> <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:10 PM, windok0= 2 <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:windok02@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blan= k">windok02@xxxxxxxx</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-= left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"line-height= :1.7;font-size:14px;font-family:arial">Hello everyone, I am a researcher in= speech analysis, and I have tried to search for a paper but can not find i= t on the Web:<div> <br></div><div>"P I M Johannesma, The pre-response stimulus esemble of= neurons in the cochlear nucleus"</div><div>=A0(In Symposium on Hearin= g Theory, 1972)</div><div><br></div><div>Therefore, I write for help to see= whether anyone has a file of the paper.=A0</div> <div>Thanks in advance!</div><div><br></div><div>Yours,</div><div>X. D. Zhu= ang</div><div>Ph. D.,=A0WSEAS Research Dept., Athens, GREECE</div><div><br>= </div><div><br></div></div><br><br><span title=3D"neteasefooter"><span></sp= an></span></blockquote> </div><br></div> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div> --20cf300fadf5c3711304f691ef46--