Re: Excessive requests for papers (Giuseppe Buzzanca )


Subject: Re: Excessive requests for papers
From:    Giuseppe Buzzanca  <pino.buzzanca@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:32:47 +0200
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--047d7b2ee46782338c04f6201526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear List: please allow me a few very short considerations. I apologize in advance. 1. I do not feel "bombarded" at all by paper requests; 2. I believe that this topic (paper requests) has been discussed in the past, and it has been decided that it is ok to ask for papers; 3. There might be a certain number of us living in places or working for universities where it can be objectively hard to readily get papers, even if these papers can be deemed "regularly available" by others who maybe live in richer parts of the world or work for wealthier universities; 4. One of the purposes of a list like this one should be to provide scientists with the ability to access information and data from multiple sources (papers included); 5. I personally feel VERY uncomfortable when someone intervenes to censor (maybe arbitrarily?) other Colleagues. 6. I know this is not important at all, but should this happen again, I would have no other choice but leaving the list right away. Best regards, Giuseppe Buzzanca Pd.D., M.D. 2014-04-03 10:25 GMT+02:00 Brian FG Katz <brian.katz@xxxxxxxx>: > Dear Auditory List, > > I would like to return to a point of discussion which was made some years > ago regarding paper requests. > > It is acknowledged that some research articles, due to their age or > presence in an obscure hard to find conference proceedings, are difficult > to get your hands on, and a request for help in finding them is not > inappropriate, especially after some effort have been made by the request= er > to search various libraries. > > It is not however appropriate to ask the list for copies of *regularly > available* articles, especially from those associated with a university > where the articles can easily be obtained through basic library services > (albeit sometime with some fee to the lab), and *especially* for an artic= le > with a clearly identifiable DOI! > > The Auditory list is not a replacement for your activities as a researche= r > to actually research information. > > Please refrain from bombarding all our emails with such requests until yo= u > have made a real effort to find the article in question. > > Cordially, > > -- > Brian FG Katz, Ph.D, HDR > Audio & Acoustique > LIMSI - CNRS > BP 133 > F-91403 ORSAY CEDEX > Phone. + 33 (0)1 69 85 81 55 - Fax. + 33 (0)1 69 85 80 88 > http://www.limsi.fr > > web_group: http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/ web_theme: > http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/thmsonesp/ > Ce message et toutes les pi=E8ces jointes sont confidentiels et =E9tablis= =E0 > l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires. > Toute utilisation ou diffusion non autoris=E9e est interdite. > This message and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for > the addressees. > Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. > > De : AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto: > AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx De la part de Patricia P=E9rez Gonz=E1lez > Envoy=E9 : jeudi 3 avril 2014 09:58 > =C0 : AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx > Objet : [AUDITORY] Request for paper > > Dear list, > > I'm looking for this paper: > > J. Verschuure and P.P.G van Benthem (1992). "Effect of Hearing Aids on > Speech Perception in Noisy Situations" > International Journal of Audiology, Vol. 31, No. 4 , Pages 205-221 > (doi:10.3109/00206099209081656) > > Anyone have a copy of this? > Thank you very much! > > Cheers, > Patri > -- > Patricia P=E9rez Gonz=E1lez > Laboratorio de Audici=F3n Computacional y Psicoac=FAstica (Lab. 2) > Instituto de Neurociencias de Castilla y Le=F3n > Universidad de Salamanca, > C/ Pintor Fernando Gallego n=BA 1 > 37007 Salamanca, Spain. > > > Tel. +34-923 294 500 ext. 1983 > E-mail: patripg@xxxxxxxx > --=20 Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio di posta elettronica sono riservate e confidenziali e ne e' vietata la diffusione in qualunque modoeseguita.Qualora Lei non fosse la persona a cui il presente messaggio e' destinato, La invitiamo gentilmente ad eliminarlo dopo averne dato tempestiva comunicazione al mittente e a non utilizzare in alcun caso il suo contenuto.Qualsivoglia utilizzo non autorizzato di questo messaggio e dei suoi eventuali allegati espone il responsabile alle relative conseguenze civili e penali. Giuseppe Buzzanca --047d7b2ee46782338c04f6201526 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0.0001pt;tex= t-align:justify;line-height:150%"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:1= 2pt;line-height:150%;font-family:&#39;Adobe Garamond Pro&#39;,serif">Dear List:</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;l= ine-height:150%"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12pt;line-height:1= 50%;font-family:&#39;Adobe Garamond Pro&#39;,serif">please allow me a few very short considerations. I apologize in advance.</span></p= > <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;l= ine-height:150%"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12pt;line-height:1= 50%;font-family:&#39;Adobe Garamond Pro&#39;,serif">1. I do not feel &ldquo;bombarded&rdquo; at all by paper requests;</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;l= ine-height:150%"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12pt;line-height:1= 50%;font-family:&#39;Adobe Garamond Pro&#39;,serif">2. I believe that this topic (paper requests) has been discussed in the past, an= d it has been decided that it is ok to ask for papers;</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;l= ine-height:150%"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12pt;line-height:1= 50%;font-family:&#39;Adobe Garamond Pro&#39;,serif">3. There might be a certain number of us living in places or working for universitie= s where it can be objectively hard to readily get papers, even if these papers can = be deemed &ldquo;regularly available&rdquo; by others who maybe live in richer parts = of the world or work for wealthier universities;</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;l= ine-height:150%"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12pt;line-height:1= 50%;font-family:&#39;Adobe Garamond Pro&#39;,serif">4. One of the purposes of a list like this one should be to provide scientists wit= h the ability to access information and data from multiple sources (papers included);</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;l= ine-height:150%"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12pt;line-height:1= 50%;font-family:&#39;Adobe Garamond Pro&#39;,serif">5. I personally feel VERY uncomfortable when someone intervenes to censor (maybe arbitraril= y?) other Colleagues.</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;l= ine-height:150%"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12pt;line-height:1= 50%;font-family:&#39;Adobe Garamond Pro&#39;,serif">6. I know this is not important at all, but should this happen again, I would ha= ve no other choice but leaving the list right away. </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;l= ine-height:150%"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12pt;line-height:1= 50%;font-family:&#39;Adobe Garamond Pro&#39;,serif">Best regards, Giuseppe Buzzanca Pd.D., M.D.</span></p><div class=3D"gmail_extra"= ><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-04-03 10:25 GMT+02:00 Brian FG Kat= z <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:brian.katz@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_b= lank">brian.katz@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span>:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Auditory List,<br> <br> I would like to return to a point of discussion which was made some years a= go regarding paper requests.<br> <br> It is acknowledged that some research articles, due to their age or presenc= e in an obscure hard to find conference proceedings, are difficult to get y= our hands on, and a request for help in finding them is not inappropriate, = especially after some effort have been made by the requester to search vari= ous libraries.<br> <br> It is not however appropriate to ask the list for copies of *regularly avai= lable* articles, especially from those associated with a university where t= he articles can easily be obtained through basic library services (albeit s= ometime with some fee to the lab), and *especially* for an article with a c= learly identifiable DOI!<br> <br> The Auditory list is not a replacement for your activities as a researcher = to actually research information.<br> <br> Please refrain from bombarding all our emails with such requests until you = have made a real effort to find the article in question.<br> <br> Cordially,<br> <br> --<br> Brian FG Katz, Ph.D, HDR<br> Audio &amp; Acoustique<br> LIMSI - CNRS<br> BP 133<br> F-91403 ORSAY CEDEX<br> Phone. <a href=3D"tel:%2B%20%2033%20%280%291%2069%2085%2081%2055" value=3D"= +33169858155">+ 33 (0)1 69 85 81 55</a> - Fax. &nbsp;<a href=3D"tel:%2B%20= %2033%20%280%291%2069%2085%2080%2088" value=3D"+33169858088">+ 33 (0)1 69 = 85 80 88</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.limsi.fr" target=3D"_blank">http://www.limsi.fr</a><b= r> <br> web_group: <a href=3D"http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/" target=3D"_blan= k">http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/</a> &nbsp; &nbsp; web_theme: <a hre= f=3D"http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/thmsonesp/" target=3D"_blank">http= ://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/thmsonesp/</a><br> Ce message et toutes les pi=E8ces jointes sont confidentiels et =E9tablis = =E0 l&#39;intention exclusive de ses destinataires.<br> Toute utilisation ou diffusion non autoris=E9e est interdite.<br> This message and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for t= he addressees.<br> Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited.<br> <br> De : AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:A= UDITORY@xxxxxxxx">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a>] De la part de Patric= ia P=E9rez Gonz=E1lez<br> Envoy=E9 : jeudi 3 avril 2014 09:58<br> =C0 : <a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<= /a><br> Objet : [AUDITORY] Request for paper<br> <br> Dear list,<br> <br> I&#39;m looking for this paper:<br> <br> J. Verschuure and P.P.G van Benthem (1992). &quot;Effect of Hearing Aids on= Speech Perception in Noisy Situations&quot;<br> International Journal of Audiology, Vol. 31, No. 4 , Pages 205-221 (doi:10.= 3109/00206099209081656)<br> <br> Anyone have a copy of this?<br> Thank you very much!<br> <br> Cheers,<br> Patri<br> <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br> Patricia P=E9rez Gonz=E1lez<br> Laboratorio de Audici=F3n Computacional y Psicoac=FAstica (Lab. 2)<br> Instituto de Neurociencias de Castilla y Le=F3n<br> Universidad de Salamanca,<br> C/ Pintor Fernando Gallego n=BA 1<br> 37007 Salamanca, Spain.<br> <br> <br> Tel. <a href=3D"tel:%2B34-923%20294%20500%20ext.%201983" value=3D"+34923294= 500">+34-923 294 500 ext. 1983</a><br> E-mail: <a href=3D"mailto:patripg@xxxxxxxx">patripg@xxxxxxxx</a><br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <b= r>Le informazioni contenute in questo<br>messaggio di posta elettronica son= o<br>riservate e confidenziali e ne e&#39; vietata la<br>diffusione in qual= unque<br> modoeseguita.Qualora Lei non fosse la<br>persona a cui il presente messaggi= o e&#39;<br>destinato, La invitiamo gentilmente ad<br>eliminarlo dopo avern= e dato tempestiva<br>comunicazione al mittente e a non<br>utilizzare in alc= un caso il suo<br> contenuto.Qualsivoglia utilizzo non<br>autorizzato di questo messaggio e de= i suoi<br>eventuali allegati espone il responsabile<br>alle relative conseg= uenze civili e penali.<br>Giuseppe Buzzanca </div></div> --047d7b2ee46782338c04f6201526--


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