Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] How to speak to people about hearing loss and more From: Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 15:04:01 -0400 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--Boundary_(ID_PTq1i2uva7GN9tYoB4krFw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The new [sic] generation is in the middle of this "plague of silence". Implants? what do they sound like? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSpKKYBkJ9Hw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D00WOao4kpwM There may be examples of 128 and 256 channel reconstruction somewhere = out there. Consider that 256 channels only yields about 1/3 semitone = bandwidth, probably ok for speech and autotuned music. = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOvHmrShrmaM Kevin ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Some people have read this, but it is about David Eves, at that time [c = 2007], he was in his mid-30s. He is now teaching music in a number of = Montreal area schools. http://cec.sonus.ca/econtact/9_4/eves.html Making Contact By David Eves Suddenly there is no place to hide. Everyone has been seated as is = customary around the periphery of the classroom so that every person is = in full view. Professor X is at the board, marker poised to stack four = whole notes into a minor seventh chord on the pre-fabricated staff. =93Could someone please name the notes in the =91 ? =92 minor seventh = chord?=94 This has been happening with terrifying regularity recently. Of course I = know the theory. It=92s the theory that more often than not is getting = me through the course. Root, minor third, fifth, minor seventh=85 The = source of the nauseating adrenaline rush that surges from the base of my = stomach is the fear of not having heard correctly which minor seventh = chord was asked for. I know it was an =93ee=94 sound; was that =93B = minor seventh=94, or =93D minor seventh=94? =93David?=94 All eyes are on me; there is no help in sight. =93David? Can you help us out here?=94 The hesitation accelerates my heart. I can literally feel the blood = rushing to my brain. Being wrong is no big deal. Being wrong can be = rectified. The true terror stems from the struggle of being perceived as = not knowing something; having not studied, when in fact the knowledge is = firmly in place. The true terror stems from the humiliation in front of = classmates that rudimentary knowledge would be perceived as being = lacking when in fact it is a hearing problem that is interfering. =93David?=94 Heads or tails? D=85 it must have been D minor seventh. =93Yes, sorry; I=92m still here. The notes would be D, F, A, C.=94 Professor X lifts the marker away from the board and turns to meet my = eyes. A quick gaze around the room confirms my fear. Several have = crossed their arms; squirming. Everyone averts their eyes from my gaze. =93Is that your final answer?=94 Nervous laughter releases some of the tension for the observers. My = heart is pounding. I sense that Professor X sees my growing panic. In = fact I have been suspicious for a number of weeks that with each test, = he is inching closer to discovering my problem. =93Well you have successfully spelled out a minor seventh chord. Let=92s = try the one I asked for this time.=94 At this point I know that he knows. Further, I know that he is offering = a helping hand. Slowly, Professor X turns to the board and with patient = deliberation writes a B in the root of the chord. =93I=92m sorry, I thought you meant D minor seventh.=94 =93I know.=94 =93B, D, F#, A=94. Professor X fills in the remainder of the chord. =93David could you please see me after class?=94 =93Sure.=94 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013, Oct 13, at 10:55 AM, Drew Barnet <drhabarnet@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Perhaps, not unlike smoking, when new generations are able to witness = first hand the effects of long term dismissal the risks, changing = attitudes may prevail. >=20 > If or when we start to see drastic or unnatural hearing loss in those = who will have worn earbuds and played them loud and often for a few = decades (example), the incentive to change becomes more concrete. >=20 --Boundary_(ID_PTq1i2uva7GN9tYoB4krFw) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; = "><div><br></div><div>The new [sic] generation is in the middle of this = "plague of = silence".</div><div><br></div><div>Implants?</div><div><br></div><div>what= do they sound like?</div><div><br></div><div><a = href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSpKKYBkJ9Hw">http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DSpKKYBkJ9Hw</a></div><div><br></div><div><a = href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D00WOao4kpwM">http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3D00WOao4kpwM</a></div><div><br></div><div>There may be = examples of 128 and 256 channel reconstruction somewhere out there. = Consider that 256 channels only yields about 1/3 semitone bandwidth, = probably ok for speech and autotuned music. <a = href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOvHmrShrmaM">http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DOvHmrShrmaM</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kevin= </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</div><div><br></div><div>Some people = have read this, but it is about David Eves, at that time [c 2007], he = was in his mid-30s. He is now teaching music in a number of Montreal = area schools.</div><div><br></div><div><a = href=3D"http://cec.sonus.ca/econtact/9_4/eves.html">http://cec.sonus.ca/ec= ontact/9_4/eves.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><h1 style=3D"margin: = 12px 0px; padding: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 24px; border-width: = 0px; border-style: none; text-align: left; line-height: 27px; = font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Making Contact</h1><p class=3D"byline" = style=3D"font-size: 14px; margin-top: 12px; line-height: 16px; = margin-bottom: 12px; text-align: left; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); = font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">By David Eves</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; = margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: = rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Suddenly there = is no place to hide. Everyone has been seated as is customary around the = periphery of the classroom so that every person is in full view. = Professor X is at the board, marker poised to stack four whole notes = into a minor seventh chord on the pre-fabricated staff.</p><p = style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; = margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93Could someone please name the notes in the = =91 ? =92 minor seventh chord?=94</p><p style=3D"font-size: = 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: = rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">This has been = happening with terrifying regularity recently. Of course I know the = theory. It=92s the theory that more often than not is getting me through = the course. <em>Root, minor third, fifth, minor = seventh=85</em> The source of the nauseating adrenaline rush that = surges from the base of my stomach is the fear of not having heard = correctly which minor seventh chord was asked for. I know it was an =93ee=94= sound; was that =93B minor seventh=94, or =93D minor seventh=94?</p><p = style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; = margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93David?=94</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; = margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: = rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">All eyes are = on me; there is no help in sight.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; = margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: = rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93David? Can = you help us out here?=94</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: = 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); = font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; = background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">The hesitation accelerates my = heart. I can literally feel the blood rushing to my brain. Being wrong = is no big deal. Being wrong can be rectified. The true terror stems from = the struggle of being perceived as not knowing something; having not = studied, when in fact the knowledge is firmly in place. The true terror = stems from the humiliation in front of classmates that rudimentary = knowledge would be perceived as being lacking when in fact it is a = hearing problem that is interfering.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; = margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: = rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93David?=94</p>= <p style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; = margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Heads or tails? D=85 it must have been D minor = seventh.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: = 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: = Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; = background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93Yes, sorry; I=92m still here. = The notes would be D, F, A, C.=94</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; = margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: = rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Professor X = lifts the marker away from the board and turns to meet my eyes. A quick = gaze around the room confirms my fear. Several have crossed their arms; = squirming. Everyone averts their eyes from my gaze.</p><p = style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; = margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93Is that your final answer?=94</p><p = style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; = margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Nervous laughter releases some of the tension for = the observers. My heart is pounding. I sense that Professor X sees my = growing panic. In fact I have been suspicious for a number of weeks that = with each test, he is inching closer to discovering my problem.</p><p = style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; = margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93Well you have successfully spelled out a minor = seventh chord. Let=92s try the one I asked for this time.=94</p><p = style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; = margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">At this point I know that he knows. Further, I = know that he is offering a helping hand. Slowly, Professor X turns to = the board and with patient deliberation writes a B in the root of the = chord.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: = 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: = Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; = background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93I=92m sorry, I thought you = meant D minor seventh.=94</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: = 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); = font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; = background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93I know.=94</p><p = style=3D"font-size: 12px; margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; = margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, = Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left; background-color: = rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93B, D, F#, A=94.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; = margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: = rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Professor X = fills in the remainder of the chord.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; = margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: = rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">=93David could = you please see me after class?=94</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12px; = margin-top: 0px; line-height: 1.25em; margin-bottom: 8px; color: = rgb(101, 101, 101); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; = text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); = ">=93Sure.=94</p></div><div><br></div><div>-------------------------------= -----------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div><br></d= iv><div><br></div><br><div><div>On 2013, Oct 13, at 10:55 AM, Drew = Barnet <<a = href=3D"mailto:drhabarnet@xxxxxxxx">drhabarnet@xxxxxxxx</a>> = wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><p>Perhaps, not unlike smoking, when new generations are = able to witness first hand the effects of long term dismissal the risks, = changing attitudes may prevail. </p><p>If or when we start to see = drastic or unnatural hearing loss in those who will have worn earbuds = and played them loud and often for a few decades (example), the = incentive to change becomes more = concrete.</p></blockquote></div><br></body></html>= --Boundary_(ID_PTq1i2uva7GN9tYoB4krFw)--