Subject: Re: Research Gate From: Gareth Jones <garethjns4@xxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:29:28 +0100 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--047d7b10c8510df00004c9087b06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, Just to add one more service to the discussion - Google Scholar ( http://scholar.google.com ) offers similar publication and citation tracking, and the ability to create a basic profile follow people. It does the job without trying to be too fancy. For example: http://scholar.google.co.uk/citations?user=3DcU1sBXcAAAAJ&hl=3Den , the citation counts on articles can be a bit dubious, though. Regards, Gareth On 6 September 2012 14:11, Chatterjee, Monita < Monita.Chatterjee@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear List, > > I agree with Erick and Stefan. I will check out Mendeley, thanks for the > suggestion Stefan! It'll take a while for the ideal mechanism to evolve, > but these sites make it possible for us to interact with colleagues faste= r > and with more ease. There's a reason we enjoy conferences -- they provide > the opportunity for social interaction as we exchange information. These > days, I interact as much with colleagues on facebook as via any other > medium -- discussions ranging from very technical issues to politics and > silly jokes. It takes a little time to stay on top of the privacy stuff, > of course. It's all good, but of course we'll have to live with the > downside of each new thing we try until the next better thing comes along= . > > See you on Facebook/ResearchGate/Mendeley/Aud. List! > > Monita > > > ________________________________________ > From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= A] > On Behalf Of Stefan Bleeck [bleeck@xxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:37 AM > To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Research Gate > > dear list, > Frederick is raising the very valid point that communication in the > research community is is changing because of social networks. While > the methods of ResearchGate is unacceptable, the need for sharing this > information better is there to achieve greater productivity. > I believe that we are at the beginning of a process of consolidation > in the market where maybe one 'facebook' leader will emerge. Some try > aggressively. Many of the contributions that are made by ResearchGate > are also available in competitors and less intrusively. > > It is not in my nature to advertise, but I feel passionate about this > and feel the need to comment. > Mendeley (mendeley.com, free) provides many of these advantages while > being non-intrusive and also being a fantastic tool as a reference > manager. It's database dwarves anything (ISI web of science, pubmed, > etc), precisely because of the social aspect. > > Because I have good experience how such a 'social' site can improve > communication, I use Mendeley in our group for some years as well as > teaching it to students with success. Because of Mendeley's API > approach, I predict that in a few years time it will become ubiquitous > among researchers. > > Stefan > > > -- > Dr. Stefan Bleeck > Hearing and Balance Centre > Institute of Sound and Vibration Research > Faculty of Engineering and the Environment > University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK > Room 4093, Tizard building (13) > bleeck@xxxxxxxx Tel.: 02380 596682 > > > > > On 6 September 2012 00:46, Gallun, Frederick J. (Portland) > <Frederick.Gallun@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > While I agree that it is annoying that ResearchGate sends emails to one= =92s > > co-authors claiming to be from you, it is not the case that there are n= o > > redeeming features to the website. It is possible to turn off the featu= re > > that allows it to send email without your permission (although it shoul= d > be > > off by default of course). > > > > > > > > The reason I mention this is that I actually find ResearchGate to be th= e > > only social networking site that actually is designed for researchers > rather > > than college students (Facebook) or business people (LinkedIn). > > > > > > > > For example, on my page > > (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frederick_Gallun/), I was quickly > able > > to assemble a list of all my publications and to upload pdfs of those > that > > are not under copyright. The site had actually gone and found the > majority > > of the publications using Pubmed, and all I had to do was approve them. > It > > also shows the impact factor of each publication and gives an average > impact > > factor and the total number of =93impact points=94 for a given author (= not > that > > I think such things are very meaningful, but it is somewhat amusing to > think > > about). > > > > > > > > Furthermore, it allows you to =93follow=94 colleagues so that you will = get > > alerts when they publish a new article. I think that they may have > alienated > > too large a percentage of their target audience with their ham-handed > > tactics of spamming everyone=92s co-authors. However, I do think that > > something like this will be the way that we keep tabs on activity in ou= r > > field (and related fields) in the near future. I don=92t have the time = to > > search through all the journals in which my colleagues might be > publishing, > > and this seems like it could be a great way to know whenever a relevant > > article is published by someone I am interested in =93following=94. > Furthermore, > > I think that, if properly developed, such a site could be a very good > way to > > allow forums like the auditory list to be integrated into a larger > > framework. > > > > > > > > Anyhow, I intend to keep interacting with such sites and providing > feedback > > to the developers in the hope that new and useful tools will be created= . > > > > > > > > Erick > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Frederick (Erick) Gallun, PhD > > Research Investigator > > > > National Center for Rehabilitative Auditory Research > > Portland VA Medical Center > > 3710 SW US Veterans Hospital Road (NCRAR) > > Portland, Oregon 97239 > > Tel: 503-220-8262 x57472 > > > > Fax: 503-721-1402 > > > > http://www.ncrar.research.va.gov/AboutUs/Staff/Gallun_A.asp > > > > This document is intended for the exclusive use of the recipient(s) nam= ed > > above. It may contain sensitive information that is protected, > privileged, > > or confidential, and should not be disseminated, distributed, or copied > to > > persons not authorized to receive such information. Unless otherwise > noted, > > this communication represents the views of the sender and not necessari= ly > > those of the VA or NCRAR. If you are not the intended recipient or fee= l > you > > have received this document in error, please notify the sender > immediately > > and destroy the original. > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception > > > >> [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Al Bregman > > > >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:02 PM > > > >> To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx > > > >> Subject: Re: Research Gate > > > >> > > > >> Hi John, > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for letting us know about Research Gate. > > > >> > > > >> Al > > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > >> ------ > > > >> Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor > > > >> Psychology Department, McGill University > > > >> 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue > > > >> Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. > > > >> Office: Phone: (514) three-nine-eight-6103, > > > >> Fax: (514) three-nine-eight-4896 > > > >> http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/ > > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > >> ------ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:08 AM, John Culling <cullingj@xxxxxxxx> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > Dear all, > > > >> > > > > >> > I thought I should alert everyone to this organisation's recruitment > > > >> methods. > > > >> > I received an email yesterday which appeared to be from a colleague > > > >> > and which invited me to join Research Gate and "claim" my papers. Th= e > > > >> > invite included a picture of my colleague. She, however, has no > > > >> > relationship with this organisation and made no such invitation. > > > >> > > > > >> > John. > --=20 Gareth P. Jones Research Fellow Hearing Research Group School of Pharmacy and Biomolecular Sciences University of Brighton Huxley Building Lewes road Brighton BN2 4GJ --047d7b10c8510df00004c9087b06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All,<div><br></div><div>Just to add one more service to the discussion= - Google Scholar ( <a href=3D"http://scholar.google.com">http://scholar.go= ogle.com</a> ) offers similar publication and citation tracking, and the ab= ility to create a basic profile follow people. It does the job without tryi= ng to be too fancy. For example:=A0<a href=3D"http://scholar.google.co.uk/c= itations?user=3DcU1sBXcAAAAJ&hl=3Den">http://scholar.google.co.uk/citat= ions?user=3DcU1sBXcAAAAJ&hl=3Den</a>=A0, the citation counts on article= s can be a bit dubious, though.</div> <div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Gareth<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu= ote">On 6 September 2012 14:11, Chatterjee, Monita <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a= href=3D"mailto:Monita.Chatterjee@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">Monita.Ch= atterjee@xxxxxxxx</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear List,<br> <br> I agree with Erick and Stefan. I will check out Mendeley, thanks for the su= ggestion Stefan! It'll take a while for the ideal mechanism to evolve, = but these sites make it possible for us to interact with colleagues faster = and with more ease. There's a reason we enjoy conferences -- they provi= de the opportunity for social interaction =A0as we exchange information. Th= ese days, I interact as much with colleagues on facebook as via any other m= edium -- discussions ranging from very technical issues to politics and sil= ly jokes. =A0It takes a little time to stay on top of the privacy stuff, of= course. It's all good, but of course we'll have to live with the d= ownside of each new thing we try until the next better thing comes along.<b= r> <br> See you on Facebook/ResearchGate/Mendeley/Aud. List!<br> <br> Monita<br> <br> <br> ________________________________________<br> From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [<a href=3D"mailto:AUDITOR= Y@xxxxxxxx">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a>] On Behalf Of Stefan Bleeck= [<a href=3D"mailto:bleeck@xxxxxxxx">bleeck@xxxxxxxx</a>]<br> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 4:37 AM<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a= ><br> Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Research Gate<br> <div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br> dear list,<br> Frederick is raising the very valid point that communication in the<br> research community is is changing because of social networks. While<br> the methods of ResearchGate is unacceptable, the need for sharing this<br> information better is there to achieve greater productivity.<br> I believe that we are at the beginning of a process of consolidation<br> in the market where maybe one 'facebook' leader will emerge. Some t= ry<br> aggressively. Many of the contributions that are made by ResearchGate<br> are also available in competitors and less intrusively.<br> <br> It is not in my nature to advertise, but I feel passionate about this<br> and feel the need to comment.<br> Mendeley (<a href=3D"http://mendeley.com" target=3D"_blank">mendeley.com</a= >, free) provides many of these advantages while<br> being non-intrusive and also being a fantastic tool as a reference<br> manager. It's database dwarves anything (ISI web of science, pubmed,<br= > etc), precisely because of the social aspect.<br> <br> Because I have good experience how such a 'social' site can improve= <br> communication, I use Mendeley in our group for some years as well as<br> teaching it to students with success. Because of Mendeley's API<br> approach, I predict that in a few years time it will become ubiquitous<br> among =A0researchers.<br> <br> Stefan<br> <br> <br> --<br> Dr. Stefan Bleeck<br> Hearing and Balance Centre<br> Institute of Sound and Vibration Research<br> Faculty of Engineering and the Environment<br> University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK<br> Room 4093, Tizard building (13)<br> <a href=3D"mailto:bleeck@xxxxxxxx">bleeck@xxxxxxxx</a> Tel.: <a href=3D"t= el:02380%20596682" value=3D"+442380596682">02380 596682</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On 6 September 2012 00:46, Gallun, Frederick J. (Portland)<br> <<a href=3D"mailto:Frederick.Gallun@xxxxxxxx">Frederick.Gallun@xxxxxxxx</a>&= gt; wrote:<br> > While I agree that it is annoying that ResearchGate sends emails to on= e=92s<br> > co-authors claiming to be from you, it is not the case that there are = no<br> > redeeming features to the website. It is possible to turn off the feat= ure<br> > that allows it to send email without your permission (although it shou= ld be<br> > off by default of course).<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > The reason I mention this is that I actually find ResearchGate to be t= he<br> > only social networking site that actually is designed for researchers = rather<br> > than college students (Facebook) or business people (LinkedIn).<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > For example, on my page<br> > (<a href=3D"https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frederick_Gallun/" ta= rget=3D"_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frederick_Gallun/</a>)= , I was quickly able<br> > to assemble a list of all my publications and to upload pdfs of those = that<br> > are not under copyright. The site had actually gone and found the majo= rity<br> > of the publications using Pubmed, and all I had to do was approve them= . It<br> > also shows the impact factor of each publication and gives an average = impact<br> > factor and the total number of =93impact points=94 for a given author = (not that<br> > I think such things are very meaningful, but it is somewhat amusing to= think<br> > about).<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > Furthermore, it allows you to =93follow=94 colleagues so that you will= get<br> > alerts when they publish a new article. I think that they may have ali= enated<br> > too large a percentage of their target audience with their ham-handed<= br> > tactics of spamming everyone=92s co-authors. However, I do think that<= br> > something like this will be the way that we keep tabs on activity in o= ur<br> > field (and related fields) in the near future. I don=92t have the time= to<br> > search through all the journals in which my colleagues might be publis= hing,<br> > and this seems like it could be a great way to know whenever a relevan= t<br> > article is published by someone I am interested in =93following=94. Fu= rthermore,<br> > I think that, if properly developed, such a site could be a very good = way to<br> > allow forums like the auditory list to be integrated into a larger<br> > framework.<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > Anyhow, I intend to keep interacting with such sites and providing fee= dback<br> > to the developers in the hope that new and useful tools will be create= d.<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > Erick<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > -------------------------------------------------------<br> ><br> > Frederick (Erick) Gallun, PhD<br> > Research Investigator<br> ><br> > National Center for Rehabilitative Auditory Research<br> > Portland VA Medical Center<br> > 3710 SW US Veterans Hospital Road (NCRAR)<br> > Portland, Oregon 97239<br> > Tel: =A0503-220-8262 x57472<br> ><br> > Fax: 503-721-1402<br> ><br> > <a href=3D"http://www.ncrar.research.va.gov/AboutUs/Staff/Gallun_A.asp= " target=3D"_blank">http://www.ncrar.research.va.gov/AboutUs/Staff/Gallun_A= .asp</a><br> ><br> > This document is intended for the exclusive use of the recipient(s) na= med<br> > above. =A0It may contain sensitive information that is protected, priv= ileged,<br> > or confidential, and should not be disseminated, distributed, or copie= d to<br> > persons not authorized to receive such information. =A0Unless otherwis= e noted,<br> > this communication represents the views of the sender and not necessar= ily<br> > those of the VA or NCRAR. =A0If you are not the intended recipient or = feel you<br> > have received this document in error, please notify the sender immedia= tely<br> > and destroy the original.<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> >> -----Original Message-----<br> ><br> >> From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception<br> ><br> >> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= .MCGILL.CA</a>] On Behalf Of Al Bregman<br> ><br> >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:02 PM<br> ><br> >> To: <a href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= ILL.CA</a><br> ><br> >> Subject: Re: Research Gate<br> ><br> >><br> ><br> >> Hi John,<br> ><br> >><br> ><br> >> Thanks for letting us know about Research Gate.<br> ><br> >><br> ><br> >> Al<br> ><br> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------= -----<br> ><br> >> ------<br> ><br> >> Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor<br> ><br> >> Psychology Department, McGill University<br> ><br> >> 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue<br> ><br> >> Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1.<br> ><br> >> Office: =A0Phone: (514) three-nine-eight-6103,<br> ><br> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Fax: (514) three-nine-eight-4896<br> ><br> >> <a href=3D"http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/" ta= rget=3D"_blank">http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/</a><br> ><br> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------= -----<br> ><br> >> ------<br> ><br> >><br> ><br> >><br> ><br> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:08 AM, John Culling <<a href=3D"mailt= o:cullingj@xxxxxxxx">cullingj@xxxxxxxx</a>><br> ><br> >> wrote:<br> ><br> >> > Dear all,<br> ><br> >> ><br> ><br> >> > I thought I should alert everyone to this organisation's = recruitment<br> ><br> >> methods.<br> ><br> >> > I received an email yesterday which appeared to be from a col= league<br> ><br> >> > and which invited me to join Research Gate and "claim&qu= ot; my papers. The<br> ><br> >> > invite included a picture of my colleague. She, however, has = no<br> ><br> >> > relationship with this organisation and made no such invitati= on.<br> ><br> >> ><br> ><br> >> > John.<br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>= <div><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px">Gareth P. 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