Re: exploitation of "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list (Marcelo Caetano )


Subject: Re: exploitation of "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list
From:    Marcelo Caetano  <gaiolouvo-auditory@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:38:03 -0700
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---1903230837-1506495428-1344253083=:24893 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Brian and members of the list,=0AI disagree with Brian's characterizat= ion of article requests as "rather excessive use of this list for obtaining= articles". Personally, I have a hunch that the frequent article requests m= ight better reflect flaws=A0in the library system (amongs others) rather th= an plain laziness.=0A=A0=0AUnfortunately, I don't have data to confirm this= impression (does anyone?). However, we usually see immediate responses to = article requests made on the list, in opposition to the alternatives=A0Bria= n points out. Ultimately, I feel that this discussion is very in line with= =A0ongoing debates on issues about intellectual and property rights, and I = think we all could very much benefit from=A0actively engaging in it.=0A=A0= =0AMarcelo Caetano=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> De: Brian = FG Katz <brian.katz@xxxxxxxx>=0A>Para: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx =0A>Enviada= s: Segunda-feira, 6 de Agosto de 2012 11:57=0A>Assunto: [AUDITORY] exploita= tion of "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list=0A> =0A>Dear list= members,=0A>=0A>I would like to bring to people's attention the rather exc= essive use of this=0A>list for obtaining articles. While I understand that = some articles may be=0A>hard to find, being old, or in obscure journals, th= e constant flow of=0A>requests for articles that are clearly available, alb= eit for a fee, is=0A>something of an abuse of the list and also the library= system. =0A>=0A>Student especially should profit from the systems in place= at their=0A>respective institutions, and if need be actually go to a libra= ry. Many=0A>libraries also offer article retrieval services, which should b= e *fully*=0A>exploited before make a global request to the open community. = =0A>=0A>Students are also encouraged to contact the authors directly to obt= ain=0A>difficult articles, as a means of expressing interest, and possibly = opening=0A>a dialog. =0A>=0A>Only as a last resort should the list be used = as a resource for "freely"=0A>obtaining your bibliographic references. =0A>= =0A>Cordially,=0A>=0A>-Brian FG Katz=0A>--=0A>Brian FG Katz, Ph.D=0A>Audio = & Acoustique=0A>LIMSI-CNRS=0A>BP 133=0A>F91403 Orsay=0A>France=0A>tel. (+33= ) 01 69 85 81 55=0A>fax. (+33) 01.69.85.80.88=0A>e-mail Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx= <mailto:Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx>=0A>web_theme: http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifiqu= e/aa/thmsonesp/=0A>web_group: http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/=0A>=0A>= =0A> ---1903230837-1506495428-1344253083=:24893 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti= mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Dear Brian= and members of the list,</span></div><div><span>I disagree with Brian's ch= aracterization of article requests as "rather excessive use of this list fo= r obtaining articles". Personally, I have a hunch that the frequent article= requests might better reflect flaws&nbsp;in the library system (amongs oth= ers) rather than plain laziness.</span></div><div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>= <div><span>Unfortunately, I don't have data to confirm this impression (doe= s anyone?). However, we usually see immediate responses to article requests= made on the list, in opposition to the alternatives&nbsp;Brian points out.= Ultimately, I feel that this discussion is very in line with&nbsp;ongoing = debates on issues about intellectual and property rights, and I think we al= l could very much benefit from&nbsp;actively engaging in it.</span></div><div><span></span>&nbsp;</div><div><span>Marcelo Caetano</= span></div><div><br><blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px= ; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width:= 2px; border-left-style: solid;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new rom= an, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: t= imes new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"= > <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <div style=3D"margin: 5px 0px; padding: = 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; fon= t-size: 0px;" class=3D"hr" contentEditable=3D"false" readonly=3D"true"></di= v> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">De:</span></b> Brian FG Katz &lt;= brian.katz@xxxxxxxx&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Para:</sp= an></b> AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;"= >Enviadas:</span></b> Segunda-feira, 6 de Agosto de 2012 11:57<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Assunto:</span></b> [AUDITORY] exploitation o= f "Auditory List" as a free "Article Request" list<br> </font> </div> <br>D= ear list members,<br><br>I would like to bring to people's attention the ra= ther excessive use of this<br>list for obtaining articles. While I understa= nd that some articles may be<br>hard to find, being old, or in obscure jour= nals, the constant flow of<br>requests for articles that are clearly availa= ble, albeit for a fee, is<br>something of an abuse of the list and also the= library system. <br><br>Student especially should profit from the systems = in place at their<br>respective institutions, and if need be actually go to= a library. Many<br>libraries also offer article retrieval services, which = should be *fully*<br>exploited before make a global request to the open com= munity. <br><br>Students are also encouraged to contact the authors directl= y to obtain<br>difficult articles, as a means of expressing interest, and possibly opening<br>a dialog. <br><br>Only as a last resort should the= list be used as a resource for "freely"<br>obtaining your bibliographic re= ferences. <br><br>Cordially,<br><br>-Brian FG Katz<br>--<br>Brian FG Katz, = Ph.D<br>Audio &amp; Acoustique<br>LIMSI-CNRS<br>BP 133<br>F91403 Orsay<br>F= rance<br>tel. (+33) 01 69 85 81 55<br>fax. (+33) 01.69.85.80.88<br>e-mail <= a href=3D"mailto:Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx" ymailto=3D"mailto:Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx= ">Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx"= ymailto=3D"mailto:Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx">Brian.Katz@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>web_= theme: <a href=3D"http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/thmsonesp/" target=3D= "_blank">http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/thmsonesp/</a><br>web_group: <= a href=3D"http://www.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/" target=3D"_blank">http://ww= w.limsi.fr/Scientifique/aa/</a><br><br><br> </div> </div> </blockquote></di= v> </div></body></html> ---1903230837-1506495428-1344253083=:24893--


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