Subject: Re: thresholds . . . insects and hearing From: "Hildebrandt, Jannis" <j.hildebrandt@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 20:13:27 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--_000_CDF828C708024D18A59996BD82758919uclacuk_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Manley review is on cochlear hearing - which excludes insects automati= cally. The short answer is: hearing has evolved many times in insects, most famous= examples would be those producing sounds themselves (crickets, grasshopper= s, cicadas...). But there are many more. For a longer answer, start here: Yager DD. 1999. Structure, development, and evolution of insect auditory sy= stems. Microsc Res Tech 47:380=96400. Jannis Dr K Jannis Hildebrandt UCL Ear Institute 332 Gray=B4s Inn Road London, WC1X 8EE ++207 698903 j.hildebrandt@xxxxxxxx<mailto:j.hildebrandt@xxxxxxxx> Am 16.05.2012 um 19:44 schrieb Jose Ignacio Alcantara: Kevin, Rather than progressing through the various phylogeny of hearing, have a lo= ok at the following article by Geoffrey Manley: Cheers, Jos=E9 _______________________________ Jos=E9 Ignacio Alc=E1ntara, PhD Department of Experimental Psychology University of Cambridge Downing Street Cambridge CB2 3EB U.K. Phone: 44 (0)1223 764412 Fax: 44 (0)1223 333564 Fitzwilliam College Storey's Way Cambridge CB3 0DG U.K. Phone: 44 (0)1223 332026 On 16 May 2012, at 17:49, Kevin Austin wrote: > Thanks. > > Following this, do insects "hear". > > "If" hearing is a form of touch -- hair cells move in response to vibrati= on etc etc, do insects without internal 'ears' "hear"? [This may simply be = a matter of semantics, defining / delimiting the word "hear".] > > > Ideas / thoughts / references are welcome. > > > Kevin > > > > > On 2012, May 16, at 11:47 AM, Heriberto Avelino wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> In connection with the topic of absolte pitch in dogs, I wonder if >> someone can direct me to references of research investigating >> thresholds of hearing among different species, in particular (small) >> birds, rodents and dogs. Any hint would be very much appreciated. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Heriberto >> >> >> ************************************************************************= ********************************* >> Heriberto Avelino >> Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology >> Department of Linguistics >> Deutscher Platz 6 >> 04103 Leipzig >> >> Phone: +49 (0) 341 3550 - 316 >> Fax: +49 (0) 341 3550 - 333 >> >> http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/staff/avelino_heriberto.php >> http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/phonetic-lab.php >> ****************************************************************** <PNAS Manley 2000.pdf> --_000_CDF828C708024D18A59996BD82758919uclacuk_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <F93202B1F1071247A541E7B200DFCE2F@xxxxxxxx> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> </head> <body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-lin= e-break: after-white-space; "> <div>The Manley review is on cochlear hearing - which excludes insect= s automatically.</div> <div>The short answer is: hearing has evolved many times in insects, most f= amous examples would be those producing sounds themselves (crickets, grassh= oppers, cicadas...). But there are many more.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>For a longer answer, start here:</div> <div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: NewCenturySchlb= k; font-size: 11px; "><br> </span></div> <div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: NewCenturySchlb= k; font-size: 11px; ">Yager DD. 1999. Structure, development, and evolution= of insect auditory systems. Microsc Res Tech 47:380=96400. </span></d= iv> <div><br> </div> <div>Jannis</div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div apple-content-edited=3D"true">Dr K Jannis Hildebrandt<br> UCL Ear Institute<br> 332 Gray=B4s Inn Road<br> London, WC1X 8EE<br> <br> ++207 698903<br> <a href=3D"mailto:j.hildebrandt@xxxxxxxx">j.hildebrandt@xxxxxxxx</a><br> <br> </div> <br> <div> <div>Am 16.05.2012 um 19:44 schrieb Jose Ignacio Alcantara:</div> <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div> <div class=3D"BodyFragment"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;= "> <div class=3D"PlainText">Kevin,<br> <br> Rather than progressing through the various phylogeny of hearing, have a lo= ok at the following article by Geoffrey Manley:<br> <br> </div> </span></font></div> <div class=3D"BodyFragment"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;= "> <div class=3D"PlainText"><br> <br> Cheers, Jos=E9<br> <br> <br> _______________________________<br> Jos=E9 Ignacio Alc=E1ntara, PhD<br> <br> Department of Experimental Psychology<br> University of Cambridge<br> Downing Street<br> Cambridge CB2 3EB<br> U.K.<br> Phone: 44 (0)1223 764412<br> Fax: 44 (0)1223 333564<br> <br> Fitzwilliam College<br> Storey's Way<br> Cambridge CB3 0DG<br> U.K.<br> Phone: 44 (0)1223 332026<br> <br> <br> On 16 May 2012, at 17:49, Kevin Austin wrote:<br> <br> > Thanks.<br> > <br> > Following this, do insects "hear".<br> > <br> > "If" hearing is a form of touch -- hair cells move in respon= se to vibration etc etc, do insects without internal 'ears' "hear"= ;? [This may simply be a matter of semantics, defining / delimiting the wor= d "hear".]<br> > <br> > <br> > Ideas / thoughts / references are welcome.<br> > <br> > <br> > Kevin<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > On 2012, May 16, at 11:47 AM, Heriberto Avelino wrote:<br> > <br> >> Dear all,<br> >> <br> >> In connection with the topic of absolte pitch in dogs, I wonder if= <br> >> someone can direct me to references of research investigating<br> >> thresholds of hearing among different species, in particular (smal= l)<br> >> birds, rodents and dogs. Any hint would be very much appreciated.<= br> >> <br> >> Best regards,<br> >> <br> >> Heriberto<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> ******************************************************************= ***************************************<br> >> Heriberto Avelino<br> >> Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology<br> >> Department of Linguistics<br> >> Deutscher Platz 6<br> >> 04103 Leipzig<br> >> <br> >> Phone: +49 (0) 341 3550 - 316<br> >> Fax: +49 (0) 341 3550 - 333<br> >> <br> >> <a href=3D"http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/staff/avelino_heriberto.ph= p">http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/staff/avelino_heriberto.php</a><br> >> <a href=3D"http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/phonetic-lab.php= ">http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/phonetic-lab.php</a><br> >> ******************************************************************= <br> <br> </div> </span></font></div> </div> <span><PNAS Manley 2000.pdf></span></blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </body> </html> --_000_CDF828C708024D18A59996BD82758919uclacuk_--