Subject: Re: Do dogs have absolute pitch? From: Bob Carlyon <Bob.Carlyon@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:36:26 +0000 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--_000_9A9432BC31857848B97F53CEAE8386C450506D01WSR22mrccbsuloc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying very hard to resist commenting that this demonstration is in fa= ct the long-overdue proof of the validity of the Bark scale. But I failed. Sorry everyone Bob Dr Bob Carlyon, Programme Leader, MRC Cognition & Brain Sciences Unit, 15 Chaucer Rd., Cambridge, CB2 7EF, England. tel: +44 1223 355294 From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx= ILL.CA] On Behalf Of Brian Gygi Sent: 16 May 2012 10:13 To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Do dogs have absolute pitch? Yes, could you train a dog to howl at 440? That would be a test of the the= ory :) Brian Gygi, Ph.D. Senior Research Fellow National Biomedical Research Unit in Hearing 113 The Ropewalk Nottingham, UK -----Original Message----- From: Sam Mathias [mailto:smathias@xxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:50 AM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Do dogs have absolute pitch? The owner is clearly signalling: skip ahead to the end of the video, where = you can actually see her move her body and look at the correct key before t= he dog responds. Since dogs can pick up on some truly amazing cues from the= ir owners (e.g., they can be trained to predict epileptic seizures), I thin= k a well-trained dog could accomplish this easily. On 16 May 2012 02:15, Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx<mailto:kevin.= austin@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: http://www.wimp.com/dogpitch/ =BF=BF Kevin -- Dr. Samuel R. Mathias Neural Mechanisms of Human Communication Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences Stephanstra=DFe 1 04103 Leipzig, Germany Tel: +49 341 9940 2479 --_000_9A9432BC31857848B97F53CEAE8386C450506D01WSR22mrccbsuloc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @xxxxxxxx {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @xxxxxxxx {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @xxxxxxxx {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @xxxxxxxx {font-family:Verdana; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; 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That would be a test of th= e theory :)<br> </span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Brian Gygi, Ph.D. <= br> Senior Research Fellow <br> National Biomedical Research Unit in Hearing <br> 113 The Ropewalk <br> Nottingham, UK</span><o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0= cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bo= ttom:5.0pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s= ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">-----Orig= inal Message-----<br> <b>From:</b> Sam Mathias [mailto:smathias@xxxxxxxx<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:50 AM<br> <b>To:</b> AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Do dogs have absolute pitch?<br> <br> </span>The owner is clearly signalling: skip ahead to the end of the video,= where you can actually see her move her body and look at the correct key b= efore the dog responds. Since dogs can pick up on some truly amazing cues f= rom their owners (e.g., they can be trained to predict epileptic seizures), I think a well-trained dog coul= d accomplish this easily.<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 16 May 2012 02:15, Kevin Austin <<a href=3D"ma= ilto:kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx" target=3D"_blank">kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx= </a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://www.wimp.com/dogpitch/" target=3D"= _blank">http://www.wimp.com/dogpitch/</a><br> <br> <br> <br> =BF=BF<br> <span style=3D"color:#888888"><br> <span class=3D"hoenzb">Kevin</span></span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br> <br clear=3D"all"> <br> -- <br> Dr. Samuel R. Mathias<br> Neural Mechanisms of Human Communication<br> Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences<br> Stephanstra=DFe 1<br> 04103 Leipzig, Germany<br> Tel: +49 341 9940 2479<o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html> --_000_9A9432BC31857848B97F53CEAE8386C450506D01WSR22mrccbsuloc_--