Subject: Re: R&D engineer position on source separation and noise-robust ASR From: Mihir Sarkar <mihir@xxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:25:41 -0400 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>Linda, A quick Google search shows that age discrimination for employment is unlawful in the EU since 2001, and it could be that the phrase "young engineering graduate" is a mistranslation of "jeune diplômé(e)" (word-to-word "young graduate," but actually meaning "recent graduate"). In this case it may have to do more with experience than age. However, I remember seeing that some scholarships for doctoral research in France had an age limit--I don't know if those would fall under the purview of the law. It's also interesting to note that in the US some awards are age-sensitive (like MIT's TR35). I believe that every language and culture has built-in biases--thanks for pointing this one out so we can be more aware of them and make sure they don't turn into discrimination. Mihir (unaffiliated with the op, just happened to grow up in France... but came to the US for grad school in part because I was "too old" to take advantage of some of those age-limited scholarships!) On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Linda Seltzer wrote: >> Inria is seeking a young engineering graduate > > I do not know the rules in France, but I hope that the community will > kindly note that in the United States age discrimination is illegal. This > is related to the issue of the advancement of women professionally, as > some women pursue education at senior age levels. Employers who refuse to > consider older candidates will miss the opportunity hire some good people. > > Linda Seltzer > Consultant, Microsoft