Subject: Re: Ultrasonic natural sound recordings From: Diego Martinez <diegomarti@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:33:39 -0300 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--f46d04426f1488d08804bdf6a034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello Nicol, you should care about wind and get some windshield, something from Rykote or Cinella or Sennheiser, but it has to fit the microphone you choose. Windshields usually come with suspension grips that reduce significantly handling and cable transmition noises, and also ground vibration. You can get some separate inexpensive suspension like the Sabrasom products. Coming to Zoom products you better get the "new" H4N, plain H4 is discontinued and its replacement is much better. The microphone you point seems to have very high noise level, maybe because its electret construction, but it could be OK for the application intended. zoom preamplifiers are not world class but you can try to get some frequency response chart and see if it is good for your work. Eventually you can get a separate preamplifier from Sound Devices for example. In any case check for responses above human frequency threshold, including windshield attenuation. Saludos! Diego 2012/4/18 Nicol Harper <nicol.harper@xxxxxxxx> > Hello. I am new to this list. > > I am making at set of natural sound recordings. I would like to be able to > record frequencies up to at least 40kHz, with a microphone that is as > insensitive to sound-source direction as possible and also preferably with > with a fairly flat frequency response. I will probably also want to avoid > sounds from vibrations and knocks to the microphone during movement of the > microphone. > > I am currently using a zoom H2 recorder on mono mix with a 96kHz sampling > rate, and carrying it carefully or using a tripod. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_H2_Handy_Recorder > > I was thinking of maybe using a zoom H4 with a Knowle FGO microphone. > http://www.avisoft.com/usg/KnowlesFGO.htm > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_H4_Handy_Recorder > > Does anybody have any other suggestions, or know of anything I should > watch out for? > > I can spend up to a few thousand dollars. > > All the best, > > Nicol Harper > -- Privacy and Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s) only. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not an intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, we would be grateful if you would notify us immediately. Thank you for your assistance. >>>>>>>>>Diego>>>> --f46d04426f1488d08804bdf6a034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Nicol,<br><br>you should care about wind and get some windshield, som= ething from Rykote or Cinella or Sennheiser, but it has to fit the micropho= ne you choose. Windshields usually come with suspension grips that reduce s= ignificantly handling and cable transmition noises, and also ground vibrati= on. You can get some separate inexpensive suspension like the Sabrasom prod= ucts.<br> <br>Coming to Zoom products you better get the "new" H4N, plain H= 4 is discontinued and its replacement is much better.<br><br>The microphone= you point seems to have very high noise level, maybe because its electret = construction, but it could be OK for the application intended. zoom preampl= ifiers are not world class but you can try to get some frequency response c= hart and see if it is good for your work. Eventually you can get a separate= preamplifier from Sound Devices for example.<br> <br>In any case check for responses above human frequency threshold, includ= ing windshield attenuation.<br><br>Saludos!<br><br>Diego<br><br><div class= =3D"gmail_quote">2012/4/18 Nicol Harper <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma= ilto:nicol.harper@xxxxxxxx">nicol.harper@xxxxxxxx</a>></span><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello.=C2=A0I am new to this list.<div><br><= /div><div>I am making at set of natural sound recordings. I would like to b= e able to record frequencies up to at least 40kHz, with a microphone that i= s as insensitive to sound-source direction as possible and also preferably = with with a fairly flat frequency response. I will probably also want to av= oid sounds from vibrations and knocks to the microphone during movement of = the microphone.</div> <div><br></div><div>I am currently using a zoom H2 recorder on mono mix wit= h a 96kHz sampling rate, and carrying it carefully or using a tripod.</div>= <div><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_H2_Handy_Recorder" target= =3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_H2_Handy_Recorder</a><br> <br></div><div>I was thinking of maybe using a zoom H4 with a Knowle FGO mi= crophone.<br><a href=3D"http://www.avisoft.com/usg/KnowlesFGO.htm" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.avisoft.com/usg/KnowlesFGO.htm</a><br><a href=3D"htt= p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_H4_Handy_Recorder" target=3D"_blank">http://= en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_H4_Handy_Recorder</a><br> <br>Does anybody have any other suggestions, or know of anything I should w= atch out for?<br><br>I can spend up to a few thousand dollars.<br><br>All t= he best,<br><br>Nicol Harper<br></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><span style=3D"color:rg= b(51,51,255)">Privacy and </span><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Confi= dentiality</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"> Notice: The=20 information contained in this e-mail is intended for the named=20 recipient(s) only. 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