Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE From: Al Bregman <al.bregman@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:58:27 -0400 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>Hi Stefan, Your suggestion is interesting, but I'm quite sure that it's much easier and more reliable to get the human sender to insert a simple phrase in the "Subject" field of the email, rather than develop intelligent software that could understand, from the content of the message, that this was a job offer. May I suggest that we try using the phrase "Position available" (without the quotes) as the first two words in the Subject field (no other constraints -- any words may follow), and see how it works out? Some people may choose to filter out these messages; others, like myself, may choose to group them, then read them. I'll set up a filter on my email (which ends up in Gmail) that will attach the label JOB-OFFER to any such message coming from AUDITORY and see if I manage to pick up all the job announcements. [To people unfamiliar with Gmail: A label in Gmail works like a folder in Outlook, except that a message can effectively be in two or more "folders" at the same time. Instead of looking in a specific folder, one searches one's messages by using a Boolean function of the labels (I'm not trying to sell Gmail, but I find it convenient,]. If people decide, after a while, that this constraint on the first two words in the Subject field of job announcements is too onerous, we can drop the idea. Best to all, Al ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor Psychology Department, McGill University 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. Office: Phone: (514) three-nine-eight-6103, Fax: (514) three-nine-eight-4896 http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:19 AM, Stefan Muenkner <stefan.muenkner@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > perhaps there is sort of a compromise here: If the listserv software could > be persuaded to accept mails at auditory-joboffers@xxxxxxxx and forward/send > that to the auditory list with an additional/changed label (like > [AUDITORY-POSITION] or [AUDITORY] [POSITION AVALAIBLE]) it would not > generate any more list maintenance work, and it would supply a reliable > label that could be sorted easily by message filters > > > I am not certain whether that's possible with the listserv software though . > > > Cheers, > > Stefan > > On 26.03.2012 05:19, Al Bregman wrote: >> Hi Camille, >> >> I have two thoughts about your proposal of a separate list for job >> position notices: >> >> 1. It would require someone to set up and maintain such a list. Are >> you volunteering? >> >> 2. Job seekers would have to know that the list existed. Right now, >> the AUDITORY list is fairly well known. Also those of us who >> regularly read it will often re-direct the job notices to students and >> others who are not list members, and suggest that they join the list >> to receive future notices. This is one way that new people hear about >> the list. >> >> Cheers, >> Al >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Peres, S. Camille <PeresSC@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Another thought is to have a separate list serve for auditory related job postings. I know of at least two other organizations that do this. >>> >>> Cheers, Camille >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:53 PM, "Al Bregman" <al.bregman@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everybody, >>>> May I make the following suggestion to deal with the objection of some >>>> list members to receiving job notices? People who were posting a job >>>> or position opening could start the Subject line of their posting with >>>> the phrase "Position available". Those who didn't want to look at >>>> such postings could just set up a filter in their email programs to >>>> delete messages whose subject line contained this phrase or direct >>>> such messages to a separate folder. >>>> Best, >>>> Al >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor >>>> Psychology Department, McGill University >>>> 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue >>>> Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. >>>> Office: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896 >>>> http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/ >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Bruno L. Giordano >>>> <bruno.giordano@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Some numbers are never a bad idea. >>>>> >>>>> Barry is right in observing an accelerating job-posting trend (see figure; >>>>> 2012 is rough expected number of messages with either job or position or >>>>> professor in subject). I was expecting a valley of death around 2008, but I >>>>> see only a tiny meaningless dip. >>>>> >>>>> This trend is comforting to myself and to many individuals: I do hope it >>>>> keeps up, at least until I find my dream job ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Bruno >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> Bruno L. Giordano, PhD >>>>> Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (CCNi, Glasgow Univ) & >>>>> Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill Univ, Montréal) >>>>> URL: http://www.brunolgiordano.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 24/03/2012 10:42 PM, Marcelo Caetano wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> I don`t want to be rude or create any problems, but I happen to think >>>>>> that if someone just wants to leave the list, all the person needs to do >>>>>> is follow the instructions onhttp://www.auditory.org/ (copied below for >>>>>> >>>>>> reference). I had the impression that Barry also wanted us to know the >>>>>> reason he chose to leave. Even though I don`t think this alone is a >>>>>> reason for remarks, I do believe it to be a good topic for discussion. >>>>>> Marcelo >>>>>> >>>>>> PS. In time, I found my current postdoc position here >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Joining and leaving the AUDITORY list >>>>>> >>>>>> By joining the AUDITORY email list, you will receive all the postings >>>>>> via email, and you will be able to contribute to the discussions. You >>>>>> can join the list by filling in the form on the AUDITORY membership >>>>>> questionnaire <http://www.auditory.org/dpwe-bin/audform>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribed members can leave the AUDITORY list, or modify their current >>>>>> details (including email address) by visiting their private AUDITORY >>>>>> information edit page, and selecting the "no messages" option at the >>>>>> bottom of that page. Please refer to the message you received when >>>>>> joining the list for the URL of the edit page, or you can contact me to >>>>>> retrieve it for you >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> *De:* Al Bregman <al.bregman@xxxxxxxx> >>>>>> *Para:* AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Enviadas:* Sexta-feira, 23 de Março de 2012 9:41 >>>>>> *Assunto:* Re: [AUDITORY] UNSUBSCRIBE >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Tony, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that all Barry requested was to be removed from the list, not >>>>>> that we discontinue the notices of available positions. I think we >>>>>> can honor his request without eliminating the job notices, which I >>>>>> agree are very useful. >>>>>> >>>>>> Al >>>>>> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor >>>>>> Psychology Department, McGill University >>>>>> 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue >>>>>> Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. >>>>>> Office: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896 >>>>>> http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/ >>>>>> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tony Miller >>>>>> <antonio.miller@xxxxxxxx <mailto:antonio.miller@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>> > Easy to say for someone who hasn't had to look for a position since >>>>>> > 1971. I say keep the job postings. There is nothing frivolous about >>>>>> > getting students into academic or industrial positions. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -Tony >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Barry Vercoe <bv@xxxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:bv@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>> >> Please remove me from ALL Auditory mailing lists. It has become >>>>>> a jobs >>>>>> >> advertising list and is jamming up my mail box. This is too bad. >>>>>> >> -- barry vercoe, MIT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > > > -- > Stefan Münkner > FR 2.5 Biophysik > Universität des Saarlandes > Campus Homburg > Gebäude 76 > D-66421 Homburg/Saar > .................................................. > phone +49 6841 16-26222 fax +49 6841 16-26211 > http://www.uniklinikum-saarland.de/biophysik/