Subject: Re: Why not the list? From: "Bruno L. Giordano" <bruno.giordano@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:22:54 +0100 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>On 26/03/2012 6:52 AM, Brian Gygi wrote: > After all, if we don't work > we don't eat and if we don't eat we can't do research. Well put Brian! Setting a mail filter that moves to a separate folder auditory messages with job or position or professor in the subject is easy. BTW, we received an average of 0.4 such messages per day on 2012, which gives an expected an expected total of 148 by the end of the year (without accounting for seasonal variations). I do not think we need to fragment the list to save subscribers the few mouse clicks that separate them from the ideal clean mailbox of who already has a job (e.g., professorship/lectureship announcements), or does not have students to help with their job search (e.g., postdoc/phd announcements), or is not interested in getting some additional information about which area of auditory research is currently receiving fundings and will be the focus of future research hours (e.g., postdoc/phd). After all, auditory is a relatively quiet list. Bruno ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruno L. Giordano, PhD Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (CCNi, Glasgow Univ) & Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill Univ, Montréal) URL: http://www.brunolgiordano.net And it is not as > if there is a torrent of job postings every day - at most two or three a > day come through, a number easily deleted even by the most harried > reader (according to Bruno's chart there have been about 150 postings > through the first three months of the year - a mean of 1.6 per day). > > So this does not seem to be a problem greatly in need of a solution. > Brian Gygi, Ph.D. > Speech and Hearing Research > Veterans Affairs Northern California Health Care System > 150 Muir Road > Martinez, CA 94553 > (925) 372-2000 x5653 > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Kevin Austin [mailto:kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx > *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:14 PM > *To:* AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx > *Subject:* Re: UNSUBSCRIBE - Why the list > > Psychoacoustics is not my primary field. I find everything on this > list to be of value. I retain about 400 postings per year. Each > year, I repost about 40 - 60 postings to the [more general] > electroacoustic [music] community, passing information and ideas on > to another up to 750 [or more] people who work in the cognate > discipline of electroacoustic studies [high art electroacoustics / > composition included]. Job posting and conference announcements here > inform large numbers of undergraduates as to the reach of the field > of sound study. For items which do not have sustained interest, I > find the DELETE key is quick and reliable. Kevin On 2012, Mar 24, at > 9:39 PM, Al Bregman wrote: > Hi Everybody, > May I make the > following suggestion to deal with the objection of some > list > members to receiving job notices? People who were posting a job > or > position opening could start the Subject line of their posting with > > the phrase "Position available". Those who didn't want to look at > > such postings could just set up a filter in their email programs > to > delete messages whose subject line contained this phrase or > direct > such messages to a separate folder. > Best, > Al > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor > Psychology Department, > McGill University > 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue > Montreal, QC, > Canada H3A 1B1. > Office: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896 > > http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Bruno L. Giordano > wrote: > >> Some numbers are never a bad idea. >> >> Barry is right in > observing an accelerating job-posting trend (see figure; >> 2012 is > rough expected number of messages with either job or position or >> > professor in subject). I was expecting a valley of death around > 2008, but I >> see only a tiny meaningless dip. >> >> This trend is > comforting to myself and to many individuals: I do hope it >> keeps > up, at least until I find my dream job ;-) >> >> Bruno >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Bruno L. Giordano, PhD > >> Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (CCNi, Glasgow Univ) & >> > Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill Univ, Montréal) >> > URL: http://www.brunolgiordano.net >> >> >> On 24/03/2012 10:42 PM, > Marcelo Caetano wrote: >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> I don`t want to > be rude or create any problems, but I happen to think >>> that if > someone just wants to leave the list, all the person needs to do >>> > is follow the instructions onhttp://www.auditory.org/ (copied below > for >>> >>> reference). I had the impression that Barry also wanted > us to know the >>> reason he chose to leave. Even though I don`t > think this alone is a >>> reason for remarks, I do believe it to be > a good topic for discussion. >>> Marcelo >>> >>> PS. In time, I > found my current postdoc position here >>> >>> >>> Joining and > leaving the AUDITORY list >>> >>> By joining the AUDITORY email > list, you will receive all the postings >>> via email, and you will > be able to contribute to the discussions. You >>> can join the list > by filling in the form on the AUDITORY membership >>> questionnaire > . >>> >>> Subscribed members can leave the AUDITORY list, or modify > their current >>> details (including email address) by visiting > their private AUDITORY >>> information edit page, and selecting the > "no messages" option at the >>> bottom of that page. Please refer to > the message you received when >>> joining the list for the URL of > the edit page, or you can contact me to >>> retrieve it for you >>> >>