Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE From: Stefan Muenkner <stefan.muenkner@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:19:24 +0200 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>perhaps there is sort of a compromise here: If the listserv software could be persuaded to accept mails at auditory-joboffers@xxxxxxxx and forward/send that to the auditory list with an additional/changed label (like [AUDITORY-POSITION] or [AUDITORY] [POSITION AVALAIBLE]) it would not generate any more list maintenance work, and it would supply a reliable label that could be sorted easily by message filters I am not certain whether that's possible with the listserv software though . Cheers, Stefan On 26.03.2012 05:19, Al Bregman wrote: > Hi Camille, > > I have two thoughts about your proposal of a separate list for job > position notices: > > 1. It would require someone to set up and maintain such a list. Are > you volunteering? > > 2. Job seekers would have to know that the list existed. Right now, > the AUDITORY list is fairly well known. Also those of us who > regularly read it will often re-direct the job notices to students and > others who are not list members, and suggest that they join the list > to receive future notices. This is one way that new people hear about > the list. > > Cheers, > Al > > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Peres, S. Camille <PeresSC@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Another thought is to have a separate list serve for auditory related job postings. I know of at least two other organizations that do this. >> >> Cheers, Camille >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:53 PM, "Al Bregman" <al.bregman@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Hi Everybody, >>> May I make the following suggestion to deal with the objection of some >>> list members to receiving job notices? People who were posting a job >>> or position opening could start the Subject line of their posting with >>> the phrase "Position available". Those who didn't want to look at >>> such postings could just set up a filter in their email programs to >>> delete messages whose subject line contained this phrase or direct >>> such messages to a separate folder. >>> Best, >>> Al >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor >>> Psychology Department, McGill University >>> 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue >>> Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. >>> Office: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896 >>> http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/ >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Bruno L. Giordano >>> <bruno.giordano@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Some numbers are never a bad idea. >>>> >>>> Barry is right in observing an accelerating job-posting trend (see figure; >>>> 2012 is rough expected number of messages with either job or position or >>>> professor in subject). I was expecting a valley of death around 2008, but I >>>> see only a tiny meaningless dip. >>>> >>>> This trend is comforting to myself and to many individuals: I do hope it >>>> keeps up, at least until I find my dream job ;-) >>>> >>>> Bruno >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Bruno L. Giordano, PhD >>>> Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (CCNi, Glasgow Univ) & >>>> Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill Univ, Montréal) >>>> URL: http://www.brunolgiordano.net >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24/03/2012 10:42 PM, Marcelo Caetano wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> I don`t want to be rude or create any problems, but I happen to think >>>>> that if someone just wants to leave the list, all the person needs to do >>>>> is follow the instructions onhttp://www.auditory.org/ (copied below for >>>>> >>>>> reference). I had the impression that Barry also wanted us to know the >>>>> reason he chose to leave. Even though I don`t think this alone is a >>>>> reason for remarks, I do believe it to be a good topic for discussion. >>>>> Marcelo >>>>> >>>>> PS. In time, I found my current postdoc position here >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Joining and leaving the AUDITORY list >>>>> >>>>> By joining the AUDITORY email list, you will receive all the postings >>>>> via email, and you will be able to contribute to the discussions. You >>>>> can join the list by filling in the form on the AUDITORY membership >>>>> questionnaire <http://www.auditory.org/dpwe-bin/audform>. >>>>> >>>>> Subscribed members can leave the AUDITORY list, or modify their current >>>>> details (including email address) by visiting their private AUDITORY >>>>> information edit page, and selecting the "no messages" option at the >>>>> bottom of that page. Please refer to the message you received when >>>>> joining the list for the URL of the edit page, or you can contact me to >>>>> retrieve it for you >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> *De:* Al Bregman <al.bregman@xxxxxxxx> >>>>> *Para:* AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx >>>>> *Enviadas:* Sexta-feira, 23 de Março de 2012 9:41 >>>>> *Assunto:* Re: [AUDITORY] UNSUBSCRIBE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Tony, >>>>> >>>>> I think that all Barry requested was to be removed from the list, not >>>>> that we discontinue the notices of available positions. I think we >>>>> can honor his request without eliminating the job notices, which I >>>>> agree are very useful. >>>>> >>>>> Al >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor >>>>> Psychology Department, McGill University >>>>> 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue >>>>> Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. >>>>> Office: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896 >>>>> http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/ >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tony Miller >>>>> <antonio.miller@xxxxxxxx <mailto:antonio.miller@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>> > Easy to say for someone who hasn't had to look for a position since >>>>> > 1971. I say keep the job postings. There is nothing frivolous about >>>>> > getting students into academic or industrial positions. >>>>> > >>>>> > -Tony >>>>> > >>>>> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Barry Vercoe <bv@xxxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:bv@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>> >> Please remove me from ALL Auditory mailing lists. It has become >>>>> a jobs >>>>> >> advertising list and is jamming up my mail box. This is too bad. >>>>> >> -- barry vercoe, MIT >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- Stefan Münkner FR 2.5 Biophysik Universität des Saarlandes Campus Homburg Gebäude 76 D-66421 Homburg/Saar .................................................. phone +49 6841 16-26222 fax +49 6841 16-26211 http://www.uniklinikum-saarland.de/biophysik/