Why not the list? (Brian Gygi )


Subject: Why not the list?
From:    Brian Gygi  <bgygi@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Mon, 26 Mar 2012 05:52:55 +0000
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----=_vm_0011_W407614249_16740_1332741175 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "I too found my job through the Auditory List." Although the above sounds like an old ad for the New York Times, I agree = with those who say providing information about jobs is almost as importan= t as discussions of auditory issues. After all, if we don't work we don't= eat and if we don't eat we can't do research. And it is not as if there = is a torrent of job postings every day - at most two or three a day come = through, a number easily deleted even by the most harried reader (accordi= ng to Bruno's chart there have been about 150 postings through the first = three months of the year - a mean of 1.6 per day). So this does not seem to be a problem greatly in need of a solution. Brian Gygi, Ph.D. Speech and Hearing Research Veterans Affairs Northern California Health Care System 150 Muir Road Martinez, CA 94553 (925) 372-2000 x5653 -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Austin [mailto:kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:14 PM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE - Why the list Psychoacoustics is not my primary field. I find everything on this list t= o be of value. I retain about 400 postings per year. Each year, I repost = about 40 - 60 postings to the [more general] electroacoustic [music] comm= unity, passing information and ideas on to another up to 750 [or more] pe= ople who work in the cognate discipline of electroacoustic studies [high = art electroacoustics / composition included].Job posting and conference a= nnouncements here inform large numbers of undergraduates as to the reach = of the field of sound study. For items which do not have sustained intere= st, I find the DELETE key is quick and reliable.KevinOn 2012, Mar 24, at = 9:39 PM, Al Bregman wrote:> Hi Everybody,> May I make the following sugge= stion to deal with the objection of some> list members to receiving job n= otices? People who were posting a job> or position opening could start th= e Subject line of their posting with> the phrase "Position available". Th= ose who didn't want to look at> such postings could just set up a filter = in their email programs to> delete messages whose subject line contained = this phrase or direct> such messages to a separate folder.> Best,> Al> --= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --> Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor> Psychology Department, McGill = University> 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue> Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1.> O= ffice: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896> http://webpages.mcgill= .ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/> ------------------------------------------= -----------------------------------> > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:35 P= M, Bruno L. Giordano> wrote:>> Some numbers are never a bad idea.>> >> B= arry is right in observing an accelerating job-posting trend (see figure;= >> 2012 is rough expected number of messages with either job or position = or>> professor in subject). I was expecting a valley of death around 2008= , but I>> see only a tiny meaningless dip.>> >> This trend is comforting = to myself and to many individuals: I do hope it>> keeps up, at least unti= l I find my dream job ;-)>> >> Bruno>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~>> Bruno L. Giordano, PhD>> Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (C= CNi, Glasgow Univ) &>> Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill U= niv, Montr=E9al)>> URL: http://www.brunolgiordano.net>> >> >> On 24/03/20= 12 10:42 PM, Marcelo Caetano wrote:>>> >>> Hello everyone,>>> I don`t wan= t to be rude or create any problems, but I happen to think>>> that if som= eone just wants to leave the list, all the person needs to do>>> is follo= w the instructions onhttp://www.auditory.org/ (copied below for>>> >>> re= ference). I had the impression that Barry also wanted us to know the>>> r= eason he chose to leave. Even though I don`t think this alone is a>>> rea= son for remarks, I do believe it to be a good topic for discussion.>>> Ma= rcelo>>> >>> PS. In time, I found my current postdoc position here>>> >>>= >>> Joining and leaving the AUDITORY list>>> >>> By joining the AUDITORY= email list, you will receive all the postings>>> via email, and you will= be able to contribute to the discussions. You>>> can join the list by fi= lling in the form on the AUDITORY membership>>> questionnaire .>>> >>> Su= bscribed members can leave the AUDITORY list, or modify their current>>> = details (including email address) by visiting their private AUDITORY>>> i= nformation edit page, and selecting the "no messages" option at the>>> bo= ttom of that page. Please refer to the message you received when>>> joini= ng the list for the URL of the edit page, or you can contact me to>>> ret= rieve it for you>>> >> ----=_vm_0011_W407614249_16740_1332741175 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2"><br>"I too found my job thro= ugh the Auditory List."<br><br>Although the above sounds like an old ad f= or the New York Times, I agree with those who say providing information a= bout jobs is almost as important as discussions of auditory issues.&nbsp;= After all, if we don't work we don't eat and if we don't eat we can't do= research.&nbsp; And it is not as if there is a torrent of job postings e= very day - at&nbsp; most two or three a day come through, a number easily= deleted even by the most harried reader (according to Bruno's chart ther= e have been about 150 postings through the first three months of the year= - a mean of 1.6 per day).&nbsp; <br><br>So this does not seem to be a pr= oblem greatly in need of a solution.<br>&nbsp;</font></div> Brian Gygi, Ph.D. <br> Speech and Hearing Research <br> Veterans Affairs Northern California Health Care System <br> 150 Muir Road <br> Martinez, CA 94553 <br> (925) 372-2000 x5653<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Verdana" size=3D= "2"></font>&nbsp;</div> <blockquote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0= 000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">----= -Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Kevin Austin [mailto:kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx= VIDEOTRON.CA]<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:14 PM<br><b>To:</= b> AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: UNSUBSCRIBE - Why the = list<br><br></font>Psychoacoustics is not my primary field. I find everyt= hing on this list to be of value. I retain about 400 postings per year. E= ach year, I repost about 40 - 60 postings to the [more general] electroac= oustic [music] community, passing information and ideas on to another up = to 750 [or more] people who work in the cognate discipline of electroacou= stic studies [high art electroacoustics / composition included]. Job posting and conference announcements here inform large numbers of und= ergraduates as to the reach of the field of sound study. For items which = do not have sustained interest, I find the DELETE key is quick and reliab= le. Kevin On 2012, Mar 24, at 9:39 PM, Al Bregman wrote: &gt; Hi Everybody, &gt; May I make the following suggestion to deal with the objection of so= me &gt; list members to receiving job notices? People who were posting a jo= b &gt; or position opening could start the Subject line of their posting wi= th &gt; the phrase "Position available". Those who didn't want to look at &gt; such postings could just set up a filter in their email programs to &gt; delete messages whose subject line contained this phrase or direct &gt; such messages to a separate folder. &gt; Best, &gt; Al &gt; --------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- &gt; Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor &gt; Psychology Department, McGill University &gt; 1205 Doctor Penfield Avenue &gt; Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1. &gt; Office: Phone: (514) 398-6103, Fax: (514) 398-4896 &gt; http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/Group2/abregm1/web/ &gt; --------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Bruno L. Giordano &gt; <bruno.giordano@xxxxxxxx> wrote: &gt;&gt; Some numbers are never a bad idea. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Barry is right in observing an accelerating job-posting trend (s= ee figure; &gt;&gt; 2012 is rough expected number of messages with either job or pos= ition or &gt;&gt; professor in subject). I was expecting a valley of death around = 2008, but I &gt;&gt; see only a tiny meaningless dip. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; This trend is comforting to myself and to many individuals: I do= hope it &gt;&gt; keeps up, at least until I find my dream job ;-) &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Bruno &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ &gt;&gt; Bruno L. Giordano, PhD &gt;&gt; Voice Neurocognition Laboratory (CCNi, Glasgow Univ) &amp; &gt;&gt; Affiliate member of Music Research Dept. (McGill Univ, Montr=E9a= l) &gt;&gt; URL: http://www.brunolgiordano.net &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On 24/03/2012 10:42 PM, Marcelo Caetano wrote: &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Hello everyone, &gt;&gt;&gt; I don`t want to be rude or create any problems, but I happen= to think &gt;&gt;&gt; that if someone just wants to leave the list, all the person= needs to do &gt;&gt;&gt; is follow the instructions onhttp://www.auditory.org/ (copie= d below for &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; reference). I had the impression that Barry also wanted us t= o know the &gt;&gt;&gt; reason he chose to leave. Even though I don`t think this alo= ne is a &gt;&gt;&gt; reason for remarks, I do believe it to be a good topic for d= iscussion. &gt;&gt;&gt; Marcelo &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; PS. In time, I found my current postdoc position here &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Joining and leaving the AUDITORY list &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; By joining the AUDITORY email list, you will receive all the= postings &gt;&gt;&gt; via email, and you will be able to contribute to the discuss= ions. You &gt;&gt;&gt; can join the list by filling in the form on the AUDITORY mem= bership &gt;&gt;&gt; questionnaire <http: www.auditory.org=3D"" dpwe-bin=3D"" aud= form=3D"">. &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Subscribed members can leave the AUDITORY list, or modify th= eir current &gt;&gt;&gt; details (including email address) by visiting their private = AUDITORY &gt;&gt;&gt; information edit page, and selecting the "no messages" optio= n at the &gt;&gt;&gt; bottom of that page. Please refer to the message you receive= d when &gt;&gt;&gt; joining the list for the URL of the edit page, or you can co= ntact me to &gt;&gt;&gt; retrieve it for you &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; </http:></bruno.giordano@xxxxxxxx></blockquote></html> ----=_vm_0011_W407614249_16740_1332741175--


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