Re: A new paradigm?(On pitch and periodicity (was "correction to post")) (=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Jos=E9_Ignacio_Alc=E1ntara?= )


Subject: Re: A new paradigm?(On pitch and periodicity (was "correction to post"))
From:    =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Jos=E9_Ignacio_Alc=E1ntara?=  <jia10@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:21:44 +0100
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--Apple-Mail-24--929911756 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Olson (1999) claims to be able to infer fluid velocity from direct =20 measurements of intra-cochlear pressure waves? Olson ES. Direct measurement of intra-cochlear pressure waves. Nature. =20= 1999 Dec. 2;402(6761):526=96529. On 22 Sep 2011, at 08:28, Peter van Hengel wrote: > Hi Matt and list members, > > If one wants to observe the reverse traveling waves in the cochlea =20 > it is necessary to measure fluid velocity, which I believe is not =20 > yet possible. > _______________________________________ Dr Jos=E9 Ignacio Alc=E1ntara Department of Experimental Psychology University of Cambridge Downing Street Cambridge, UK CB2 3EB Phone: +44 (0)1223 764412 Fax: +44 (0)1223 333564 Fellow of Fitzwilliam College Storey's Way Cambridge, UK CB3 0DG Phone: +44 (0)1223 472126 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail --Apple-Mail-24--929911756 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Olson (1999) claims to be able = to infer fluid velocity from direct measurements of intra-cochlear = pressure waves?<div><br></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"Arial"><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"'Lucida = Grande'">Olson ES. Direct measurement of intra-cochlear pressure waves. = Nature. 1999 Dec. = 2;402(6761):526=96529.</font><br></font><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>= On 22 Sep 2011, at 08:28, Peter van Hengel wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi Matt = and list members,<br><br> If one wants to observe the reverse traveling = waves in the cochlea it is necessary to measure fluid velocity, which I = believe is not yet possible.&nbsp;<div = class=3D"gmail_quote"></div><br></blockquote></div><br><div> <span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: = rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: = normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: = 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; 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