Subject: Re: correction to post From: Ranjit Randhawa <rsran@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:13:24 -0400 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000300010009070201000105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Nedra, In my opinion the most enduring (over 200 years) of all auditory "illusions" is what has been called the "missing fundamental". The fact that this has not been satisfactorily resolved by the tortured use of existing signal processing techniques leads some, including yours truly, to believe that the auditory system has figured out a unique way to do frequency analysis and to meet the dictum in biology that "form follows function". Taking into account where we are and the discussions that take place, e.g. this forum, it is interesting that there has been no discussion as to why the cochlear has the shape it does. Therefore some experimental phenomenon that we may call as an illusion, could have a very natural consequence of how frequency analysis is done. One is lead to believe that we are truly very far from understanding how the auditory system works and therefore hearing aid designs are a bit of a hoax foisted on the "proletariat". Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but I think it is time people recognized that the emperor has not clothes. Regards, Randy Randhawa On 7/30/2011 3:16 AM, Nedra Floyd-Pautler, LLC wrote: > My apologies for an over-active spell checker that changed "people" to > "proletariat" in my recent posting. Below is the message I intended to > send: > > I'm a science writer/audiologist researching an article on auditory > illusions. What value do they have "on the ground" for people with > hearing deficits? Do what they tells us about the brain and hearing > have application to hearing aid design? > > Thank you, > Nedra Floyd-Pautler > www.thenedra.com <http://www.thenedra.com> --------------000300010009070201000105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Dear Nedra,<br> In my opinion the most enduring (over 200 years) of all auditory "illusions" is what has been called the "missing fundamental". The fact that this has not been satisfactorily resolved by the tortured use of existing signal processing techniques leads some, including yours truly, to believe that the auditory system has figured out a unique way to do frequency analysis and to meet the dictum in biology that "form follows function". Taking into account where we are and the discussions that take place, e.g. this forum, it is interesting that there has been no discussion as to why the cochlear has the shape it does. Therefore some experimental phenomenon that we may call as an illusion, could have a very natural consequence of how frequency analysis is done. One is lead to believe that we are truly very far from understanding how the auditory system works and therefore hearing aid designs are a bit of a hoax foisted on the "proletariat". Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but I think it is time people recognized that the emperor has not clothes.<br> Regards,<br> Randy Randhawa<br> <br> On 7/30/2011 3:16 AM, Nedra Floyd-Pautler, LLC wrote:<br> <blockquote cite="mid:%20%3C1730_1312014166_4E33BF56_1730_101_1_309996174.92611.1312010201743.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxx" type="cite"> <style type="text/css">p { margin: 0; }</style> <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; font-size: medium; ">My apologies for an over-active spell checker that changed "people" to "proletariat" in my recent posting. Below is the message I intended to send:</span> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; font-size: medium; "><br> </span></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; font-size: medium; ">I'm a science writer/audiologist researching an article on auditory illusions. What value do they have "on the ground" for people with hearing deficits? Do what they tells us about the brain and hearing have application to hearing aid design? <br> <br> Thank you,<br> Nedra Floyd-Pautler<br> <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT187" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 139); text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; "><a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="http://www.thenedra.com" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 139); text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; ">www.thenedra.com</a></span></span></div> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html> --------------000300010009070201000105--