Re: interval perception (Nakajima )


Subject: Re: interval perception
From:    Nakajima  <nakajima@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:30:38 +0900
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01CC069B.896077C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Prof. Ostwald and Dear All, It seems really difficult to beat Bruno. I thought this was a good chance to be the first to respond, but failed. We are also interested in "bilateral assimilation" recently (=in this decade). Another path we are aiming at is an electrophysiological study as in the following article, Takako Mitsudo, Yoshitaka Nakajima, Gerard B. Remijn, Hiroshige Takeichi , Yoshinobu Goto, and Shozo Tobimatsu, "Electrophysiological evidence of auditory temporal perception related to the assimilation between two neighboring time intervals," NeuroQuantology, 7, 114-127, 2009. An advantage of this kind of study is that it is very easy to make demonstrations to check the reported results, and indeed the materials seem suitable for educational purposes. Best regards, Yoshitaka Yoshitaka NAKAJIMA, PhD Professor, Department of Human Science Director, Center for Applied Perceptual Research Kyushu University Fukuoka 815-8540, Japan Telephone: +81 92 553 4564 Facsimile: +81 92 553 4520 nakajima@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruno Repp To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:43 AM Subject: Re: interval perception Dear Jo: If you are considering using short intervals (< 500 ms), please look at the literature on the "time shrinking" illusion by Nakajima, ten Hoopen, and coworkers. There are about a dozen published papers on this particular topic. Best, Bruno On 4/28/11 12:12 PM, joachim.ostwald@xxxxxxxx wrote: Dear list, students of mine plan to do a course project on the precission of interval timing perception. The problem shall be addressed in two lines - interval bisection - how precise has a signal to be in the middle of an interval to perceive the two resulting intervals as being equal. Does this depent on the duration of the original interval, does it depent on signal properties (tone pulse vs click, pulse frequency) - if three signals are given in a series, how precisely has the timing of the third stimulus match the interval between the first two signals in order to perceive the two resulting intervals as equal Could anybody please offer some hints to studies on these topics so we can start an in depth literature search. Thanks very much Jo Ostwald --------------------------------- Prof. Dr. Jo Ostwald Dept. Animal Physiology University of Tuebingen Auf der Morgenstelle 28 D-72076 Tuebingen Germany phone +49 7071 29 72622 fax +49 7071 29 2618 email: joachim.ostwald@xxxxxxxx http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/tierphys -- Bruno H. Repp Senior Research Scientist Music Perception and Action Haskins Laboratories 300 George Street New Haven, CT 06511-6624 E-mail: repp@xxxxxxxx Web page: http://www.haskins.yale.edu/staff/repp.html ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01CC069B.896077C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3DISO-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3698" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY text=3D#000000 bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS UI Gothic" size=3D2>Dear Prof. <FONT = face=3DArial>Ostwald and=20 Dear All,</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It&nbsp;seems really difficult to beat = Bruno.&nbsp;=20 I thought this was a good chance to be the first to respond, but = failed.&nbsp;=20 We are also interested in "bilateral assimilation" recently (=3Din this=20 decade).&nbsp; Another path we are aiming at is an electrophysiological = study as=20 in the following article,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS UI Gothic" size=3D2>Takako Mitsudo, Yoshitaka = Nakajima, Gerard=20 B. Remijn, Hiroshige Takeichi , Yoshinobu Goto, and Shozo Tobimatsu,=20 "Electrophysiological evidence of auditory temporal perception related = to the=20 assimilation between two neighboring time = intervals,"<BR>NeuroQuantology, 7,=20 114-127, 2009.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS UI Gothic" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS UI Gothic" size=3D2>An&nbsp;advantage of this kind = of study is=20 that&nbsp;it is very easy to make demonstrations to check the reported = results,=20 and indeed the materials&nbsp;seem suitable for educational=20 purposes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS UI Gothic" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS UI Gothic" size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS UI Gothic" size=3D2>Yoshitaka</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS UI Gothic" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"MS UI Gothic" size=3D2>Yoshitaka NAKAJIMA, = PhD<BR>Professor,=20 Department of Human Science<BR>Director, Center for Applied Perceptual=20 Research<BR>Kyushu University<BR>Fukuoka 815-8540, Japan<BR>Telephone: = +81 92=20 553 4564<BR>Facsimile: +81 92 553 4520<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:nakajima@xxxxxxxx">nakajima@xxxxxxxx= c.jp</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Drepp@xxxxxxxx = href=3D"mailto:repp@xxxxxxxx">Bruno=20 Repp</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3DAUDITORY@xxxxxxxx=20 href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 29, = 2011 2:43=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic"><B>Subject:</B> Re: interval=20 perception</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Jo:<BR><BR>If you are considering using short = intervals=20 (&lt; 500 ms), please look at the literature on the "time shrinking" = illusion=20 by Nakajima, ten Hoopen, and coworkers. There are about a dozen = published=20 papers on this particular topic.<BR><BR>Best,<BR>Bruno<BR><BR>On = 4/28/11 12:12=20 PM, <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated=20 = href=3D"mailto:joachim.ostwald@xxxxxxxx">joachim.ostwald@xxxxxxxx= INGEN.DE</A>=20 wrote:=20 <BLOCKQUOTE=20 = cite=3Dmid:28095_1304011063_4DB9A137_28095_145_1_4DB9ADF9.5565.1A9DAFC@xxxxxxxx= achim.ostwald.uni-tuebingen.de=20 type=3D"cite"> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Style-Type content=3Dtext/css> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dear=20 list,</SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">students of mine plan to do a course = project on the=20 precission of interval timing perception.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The=20 problem shall be addressed in two lines</SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-=20 interval bisection - how precise has a signal to be in the middle of = an=20 interval to perceive the two resulting intervals as being equal. = Does this=20 depent on the duration of the original interval, does it depent on = signal=20 properties (tone pulse vs click, pulse frequency)</SPAN></FONT> = </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">- if=20 three signals are given in a series, how precisely has the timing of = the=20 third stimulus match the interval between the first two signals in = order to=20 perceive the two resulting intervals as equal </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Could=20 anybody please offer some hints to studies on these topics so we can = start=20 an in depth literature search.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks=20 very much</SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jo=20 Ostwald</SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: = 10pt">---------------------------------</SPAN></FONT>=20 </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Prof.=20 Dr. Jo Ostwald </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dept.=20 Animal Physiology&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">University of Tuebingen</SPAN></FONT> = </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Auf=20 der Morgenstelle 28&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">D-72076=20 = Tuebingen&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= p;=20 </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: = 10pt">Germany&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">phone=20 +49 7071 29 72622</SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">fax&nbsp;&nbsp; +49 7071 29 = 2618</SPAN></FONT>=20 </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">email:=20 <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated=20 = href=3D"mailto:joachim.ostwald@xxxxxxxx">joachim.ostwald@xxxxxxxx= ingen.de</A></SPAN></FONT>=20 </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A=20 class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext=20 = href=3D"http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/tierphys">http://www.uni-tuebingen.de= /tierphys</A></SPAN></FONT>=20 </DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><PRE = class=3Dmoz-signature cols=3D"72">--=20 Bruno H. Repp Senior Research Scientist Music Perception and Action Haskins Laboratories 300 George Street New Haven, CT 06511-6624 E-mail: <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated = href=3D"mailto:repp@xxxxxxxx">repp@xxxxxxxx</A> Web page: <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext = href=3D"http://www.haskins.yale.edu/staff/repp.html">http://www.haskins.y= ale.edu/staff/repp.html</A></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01CC069B.896077C0--


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