Subject: Re: recordings of screaming children? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Ignacio_Alc=E1ntara?= <jia10@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:34:34 +0100 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>--Apple-Mail-2--187752574 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a whole bunch of literature on the 'distraction from pain' =20 subject. For sound, see for example: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11991313 http://www.nature.com/ebd/journal/v10/n1/full/6400629a.html No mention of using aversive sounds though, that I can see... Jose On 15 Jun 2010, at 15:30, Kevin Austin wrote: > Begin forwarded message: > >> (from the phonography list) >> >>> To: phonography@xxxxxxxx >>> From: "felixbadanimal" <felixbadanimal@xxxxxxxx> >>> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:03:03 -0000 >>> Subject: [phonography] recordings of screaming children? >>> >>> Hello all, >>> sorry for the extremely random nature of this post... my Dad is a =20= >>> GP and just sent me this email: >>> >>> ----------- >>> >>> I have a charming patient with chronic pain in his neck arms and =20 >>> shoulders with no releif from neurosurgery who has found that he =20 >>> gets extra-ordinary releif from the sound of screaming children. =20 >>> In the absence of progress with the pain clinics and the =20 >>> neurosurgeon he is keen to explore the "sound therapy" avenue =20 >>> further. >>> >>> ----------- >>> >>> I know it is a bit strange and random but as an arthritis patient =20= >>> myself, I can understand the craziness of being in constant pain =20 >>> and the need for relief... and perhaps even the outlet that the =20 >>> sound of full-on screaming might provide? I am intrigued that =20 >>> sound may play a part in easing this man's pain, but I have no =20 >>> idea where I may find screaming recordings, and it's not the =20 >>> easiest thing to either explain or set up since it poses a few =20 >>> ethical problems, and maybe not everyone would be sympathetic to =20 >>> the idea. >>> >>> I thought I would consult you open-minded folks to see if you had =20= >>> any views or ideas about where I could find such recordings, or =20 >>> how I could set something like this up, and whether or not any of =20= >>> you have been approached with similar requests... >>> >>> Any leads on finding recordings of screaming children greatly =20 >>> appreciated... >>> >>> Cheers, F > > > I would be interested in hearing from the AUDITORY community as to =20 > why this form of therapy [would] work[s]. > > > Kevin _______________________________________ Dr Jos=E9 Ignacio Alc=E1ntara Department of Experimental Psychology University of Cambridge Downing Street Cambridge, UK CB2 3EB Phone: +44 (0)1223 764412 Fax: +44 (0)1223 333564 Fellow of Fitzwilliam College Storey's Way Cambridge, UK CB3 0DG Phone: +44 (0)1223 472126 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail --Apple-Mail-2--187752574 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">There's a whole bunch of = literature on the 'distraction from pain' subject. For sound, see = for example:<div><br></div><div><a = href=3D"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11991313">http://www.ncbi.nlm.n= ih.gov/pubmed/11991313</a></div><div><a = href=3D"http://www.nature.com/ebd/journal/v10/n1/full/6400629a.html">http:= //www.nature.com/ebd/journal/v10/n1/full/6400629a.html</a></div><div><br><= /div><div>No mention of using aversive sounds though, that I can = see...</div><div><br></div><div>Jose</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><d= iv><div>On 15 Jun 2010, at 15:30, Kevin Austin wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Begin = forwarded message:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">(from the = phonography list)<br></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite">To: <a = href=3D"mailto:phonography@xxxxxxxx">phonography@xxxxxxxx</a= ><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite">From: "felixbadanimal" <<a = href=3D"mailto:felixbadanimal@xxxxxxxx">felixbadanimal@xxxxxxxx</a>&= gt;<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite">Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:03:03 = -0000<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite">Subject: [phonography] recordings of screaming = children?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hello = all,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite">sorry for the extremely random nature of this post... my = Dad is a GP and just sent me this = email:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite">-----------<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">I have a charming patient with = chronic pain in his neck arms and shoulders with no releif from = neurosurgery who has found that he gets extra-ordinary releif from the = sound of screaming children. In the absence of progress with the pain = clinics and the neurosurgeon he is keen to explore the "sound therapy" = avenue further.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite">-----------<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">I know it is a bit strange and = random but as an arthritis patient myself, I can understand the = craziness of being in constant pain and the need for relief... and = perhaps even the outlet that the sound of full-on screaming might = provide? I am intrigued that sound may play a part in easing this man's = pain, but I have no idea where I may find screaming recordings, and it's = not the easiest thing to either explain or set up since it poses a few = ethical problems, and maybe not everyone would be sympathetic to the = idea.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">I thought I would consult you = open-minded folks to see if you had any views or ideas about where I = could find such recordings, or how I could set something like this up, = and whether or not any of you have been approached with similar = requests...<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Any leads on finding recordings = of screaming children greatly = appreciated...<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Cheers, = F<br></blockquote></blockquote><br><br>I would be interested in hearing = from the AUDITORY community as to why this form of therapy [would] = work[s].<br><br><br>Kevin<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; 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